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bombs have been nerfed like literally 98% because planes are just so inherently op amrchair historians will be quick to say that oh the cyber ballistics are actually just fine because on september 1943 the armor thickness of this tank's left side was 1in thicker wider but if you play any other spergy plane sim all you gotta do is drop a bomb like in the general vicinity of your target and it'll crater it. they way bombing feels now on dedicated ground attack planes is how bombing in the la7 felt and other fighters that had twin hand grenades mounted. as it is now i dont even know if its possible for a La to bomb and kill anything that's not artillery at this point.
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Thief posted:bombs have been nerfed like literally 98% because planes are just so inherently op  If a bomb could actually hit a tank it'd completely gently caress it, the real problem between game and IRL comparisons is that pilots IRL were nowhere near as accurate as you can be in War Thunder. Like yea, peripheral hits on tanks usually did little but disturb the crew, blow tracks or gently caress the exterior stored items but a tank would eat poo poo if a 250KG bomb went off 5m from it. Actually testing on M48s and M60s against 155mm artillery revealed micropenetrations all over them from nondirect hits and they'd be considered mission killed on a direct hit. 155mm artillery is the equivalent of a 50kg bomb.
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Oct 24, 2017 20:06
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FaustianQ posted:a tank would eat poo poo if a 250KG bomb went off 5m from it. Meanwhile in War Thunder, this is what happens instead: https://gfycat.com/NervousOpenDowitcher
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Oct 24, 2017 20:12
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Well, I came here to ask about the best way to make my bomb drops from a fighter more acurate, but I guess I wont bother.
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Oct 24, 2017 21:22
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Sard posted:Meanwhile in War Thunder, this is what happens instead: I mean, that is the Tortiose but at the same time the crater decal on the dead center of your tank indicates a direct hit, so lmao Gaijin. EmpyreanFlux fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Oct 24, 2017 |
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Oct 24, 2017 21:37
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Nektu posted:Well, I came here to ask about the best way to make my bomb drops from a fighter more acurate, but I guess I wont bother. What happened in that video is actually a rare occurrence; you can get kills with small bombs, but you have to get them right up on the tank unless they're like 1000 lbs/500 kgs or bigger. Your best bet with a fighter is to set a short fuse on them, about two seconds, and then swoop in as close as you can and drop them right as you're flying over. They'll slam into the hull of the tank, sit, and explode.
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Nektu posted:Well, I came here to ask about the best way to make my bomb drops from a fighter more acurate, but I guess I wont bother. Do, unless the bomb has its weight written in lbs, that's my experience. You need practice and jedi powers to land it right and then predict the path of the vehicle, use a timer of two seconds, three if you're a slow plane, don't be afraid to get close and personal, bullseye the womprat. Here's a demonstration of a 4000lbs bomb working properly  X = dead, S = slight damage, D = damaged enough to come to a halt, O = oh that guy escaped harm Here's a demonstration of a 4000lbs bomb forgetting how to bomb 
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Oct 24, 2017 21:40
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Get a plane with a big bomb, fly directly into the tank and release the bomb at the last possible second.
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Sometimes helps to cut engine power on your dive, eliminating prop torque and keeping you trim. Also the tank can't hear you. I kill tiger 2 105's in my la-7 occasionally, so direct hits will kill stuff as long as the game doesn't bug out. Also on some maps the bombs fall through the terrain and are harmless no matter how big they are. Advance to the rhine is notorious for this, and you can sometimes even hear the splash as it falls through the road into the water below the map.
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FaustianQ posted:pilots IRL were nowhere near as accurate as you can be in War Thunde lol yeah literally every bombing run in war thunder is like the end of saving private ryan i think gaijin does well enough considering they base vehicle stats on wikipedia articles and yet the game is still even remotely playable and balanced but it's a real  for selective sperging
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Oct 24, 2017 21:58
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MrLonghair posted:Do, unless the bomb has its weight written in lbs, that's my experience. You need practice and jedi powers to land it right and then predict the path of the vehicle, use a timer of two seconds, three if you're a slow plane, don't be afraid to get close and personal, bullseye the womprat. your images always make me double-take, as I often think you're trying to trick us by putting up an image from some 90s game.
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Biggest hint for bombing: Don't bother with anything smaller than 500kg/1,000lb. Those are pretty much your breakpoints for anything that's not open topped or a thin-skinned/light armored shitbox . Sure, you can probably ruin a flakbus's day with 50lb bombs if you catch one...especially if you're in a bomber that drops a dozen of them, but heavier bombs get the job done on everything. This does limit you somewhat but you want poo poo dead. As for aiming....I really don't know what to suggest for when to drop your bomb, that comes with practice. Though I'll say one of the best words of advice is take time to line up ahead of time. Identify a target, come back around on a straight path, drop then get out of dodge. Also gotta be careful about coming in too close or you'll nail a tree/building/cliff or blow your own tail off (the latter can be avoided by increasing the fuse timer but that gives your prey time to escape). I've actually gotten half decent with the Firefly V at ruining people's day in CARB....shame I have to play British tanks to do it.
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mlmp08 posted:your images always make me double-take, as I often think you're trying to trick us by putting up an image from some 90s game. what, you can't handle the glory of SLAV-O-VISION?    
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Bombs do have killing power... but they have problem with terrain features and clipping in things. Even small hill bumps will completely negate the exploding force, and the game just freaks out when there's anything resembling a structure nearby. At least, that's what it feels like. Bombing is still viable but unreliable due to those issues.
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Britain has no fun attackers, so I've switched to rockets. You still have to be accurate, but I've found it to be a lot easier. The hurricane mk iv does surprisingly well at 5.3 with its rockets.
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Solumin posted:Britain has no fun attackers, so I've switched to rockets. Have you tried the Firefly?
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Have you tried the Firefly? I will as soon as I unlock it. I'm only up to 4.0 on British planes, I'm about to unlock the first Firefly. I spent the weekend getting APDS on the Comet.
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YF-23 posted:Bombs do have killing power... but they have problem with terrain features and clipping in things. Even small hill bumps will completely negate the exploding force, and the game just freaks out when there's anything resembling a structure nearby.  [tsar bomba] [pillbug] [tank] boom survive [50kg bomb] still in the same area code here's a load of shrapnel up the butt
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Alkydere posted:Biggest hint for bombing: Don't bother with anything smaller than 500kg/1,000lb. Those are pretty much your breakpoints for anything that's not open topped or a thin-skinned/light armored shitbox . Sure, you can probably ruin a flakbus's day with 50lb bombs if you catch one...especially if you're in a bomber that drops a dozen of them, but heavier bombs get the job done on everything. This does limit you somewhat but you want poo poo dead. This is good bomb advice. It is entirely possible to kill tanks (tigers, panthers, American T34s) with 50kg bombs, it just takes really good aim and a lot of practice.
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Note that's 50 Kilograms. I wouldn't trust 50 pound bombs to reliably kill a tricycle in this game. Because not everyone knows the conversions: 1 Kg = 2.2 lb 1 Wellingon = 4,000 lb
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I played a game yesterday where some guy killed four enemy tanks with a single bomb.
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hakimashou posted:I played a game yesterday where some guy killed four enemy tanks with a single bomb. I did a double kill dropping four 50kg not long ago. Then 
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what kind of dog is that design based on? judging be the ears i'd guess dachshund
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What in the christ is that thing?
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The H6K, only French and not a seaplane
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Lol, so the secret to bombing in a fighter is "git gud  "? Heh.My biggest problem with that is a lack of feedback regarding the difference between my aim and the place that the bomb landed. After dropping it, I need a second or two to pull up. Then I try to look back via free view and maybe see the explosion, but at that time I have a really hard time bringing that into relation to my aim point (different perspective and all). So, "git better"?
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If you try to develop a habit of diving at a similar angle every time the bomb tends to fall the same way every time, so you get a feel for eyeballing. It also falls on an arc so the target should be basically halfway between where your nose is pointed and directly beneath you, give or take. It's mostly just practice, especially in regards to using the same airframe over and over to find the right feel. get closer, the farther dropped bombs have to travel the more likely it is you missed or they'll just move out of the way. This is the point of 2s delayed fuses. if you couldn't have comfortably strafed it on your approach, there's a good chance your bomb is gonna miss too because it takes the same amount of lining up to be sure, at least most of the time. Mazz fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Oct 25, 2017 |
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high alt dive bombing you can just drop vertical and consistently hit your target using your gunsights. if you're doing precise attacks you just swoop down and as the target goes under your your nose you release the bomb. its that simple. if you hit well past your target then you're flying too level for how fast you're going. bombing in 3rd person view? and l2play
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I hope they add a French Ki-43-III
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I hope that one day America teams learn how to fight in realistic battles
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this vid is old and silly but all you need to  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebBI0CJX7LY Symetrique posted:I hope they add a French Ki-43-III 
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Nektu posted:Lol, so the secret to bombing in a fighter is "git gud I like to use bomb view, once I'm sure I'm safely out of the dive. But usually I'm going "oh poo poo oh poo poo tree" to remember that.
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Nektu posted:Lol, so the secret to bombing in a fighter is "git gud I mean, practice will make you better at bombing, but that's the same as it will make you better at everything else. There's a keybind that shows you a bomb cam so you can see right where it lands; mine is on u, but I cannot remember if that's default or not. It's a bit tricky to use in a dive bombing since there's a decent chance your bomb will have landed by the time you've pulled up enough but you can use it to get some more empirical data about your bombs' behaviour.
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Hold your bomb button to observe point of impact - you can still control the aircraft while in this view in case you're mid dive. Edit: Phone posting and responding to stuff from a while ago, woops. Still do this.
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Nektu posted:Lol, so the secret to bombing in a fighter is "git gud The secret is to practice doing it. Pretty much every plane and bomb combination involves changes in how your bomb flies (think of your airspeed). You have to practice at it if you want to get good just like everything else.
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Basically we can't tell you some magical sekrit because every single plane is different. We can't say "Okay, drop your bombs when the tank is at relative position compared to your nose" because every plane is shaped differently, goes different speeds, pulls up different, etc. You have to find a plane you kinda like and practice with it.
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