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bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

The Bloop posted:

Strong social programs to make sure the percentage of people that we know capitalism will fail aren't homeless and starving.

BMI, UI, or some combination of housing and food security for everyone. Boom. absurdly viable and you don't have to cry about a lack of capitalism

That is nice and reasonable! I will admit that I am bored at work an was baiting for some unironic Marxism lols.

I would prefer make-work infrastructure projects to UI, but whatever.

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Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

Helith posted:

Plus when I see Americans talk about food online, it's usually about pizza, burgers, macaroni and cheese, quick crockpot stuff or deserts and cookies. Seriously, what is with the obsession with mac and cheese?

Aside from a few websites like Facebook, the Americans who talk about food online are going to be younger people. All of the foods you list here are things that Americans of Generation X and later ate growing up, so they're considered comfort foods. Almost everyone's grandma made macaroni and cheese, so you can see why this might produce strong emotions. Boom there's your answer.

Also, regarding old food and stores: many, many American stores donate old food to food shelf organizations. If you worked at a poo poo store that didn't do this, that sucks, but it doesn't mean all other stores/companies are as bad as yours was.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Sandwich Anarchist posted:

Anti Food Porn / Food Fads: Seize the Means of Confection

:five:

Going back to AFP though, I tried those mystery oreos, and they are awful. Fruity pebbles and chocolate cookie doesn't mix at all

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!

Enfys posted:

What the gently caress

I live in the EU and most of the grocery stores in my country have a program set up to donate their excess/damaged foods to groups who work with homeless or other programs. Some uni kids got an entrepreneurship award a few years ago for creating an app that would connect groups looking for excess food/goods with stores. The local store indicates "hey we have 4 bags of lettuce, 6 ready meals, 2 cheese, 1 damaged laundry soap, 2kg chicken fillets etc today" and the local women's shelter then goes and collects it that night. They won't have stuff every day, but it's a pretty decent system. A lot of places advertise that they participate in it because it makes them look good for getting rid of their crap. The bigger stores will have a "reduced to clear" section, but basically whatever isn't gone by 6pm or whatever goes to a local group.

I think it works pretty well since the stores don't really have to do much besides log what they have available, and then someone from a local group comes and picks it up. Not every place does it, but even some little corner shops participate.

Where in the eu? Stores here throw expiring stuff in a locked container.

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!
Mayo and corn pizza, hyped new pizza in Sweden https://www.expressen.se/omtalat/livet/har-ar-den-nya-pizzan-som-fascinerar-hela-varlden/

Elizabethan Error
May 18, 2006


featuring a thread favourite, Brazillian Mayo Pizza Dude

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!

Elizabethan Error posted:

featuring a thread favourite, Brazillian Mayo Pizza Dude

Hell if I know, I only eat banana/peanut pizzas

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Going back to AFP though, I tried those mystery oreos, and they are awful. Fruity pebbles and chocolate cookie doesn't mix at all
:agreed: I tried; God knows I tried.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Again, I genuinely have no real idea what you mean, but okay. I guess I've just never heard this term.

In Britain I think most people, if asked to make a cake, would mix equal parts flour, sugar, and butter, and... some eggs, I don't know how many eggs, I usually get a recipe that gives me the other parts in relation to the eggs, but there is no oil involved.

Whereas Americans like putting oil in cakes, which makes them really weird and.. well... oily.

It makes them dry out slower so there's a good practical reason for it, but it's not what I would put in a cake I was baking for someone except maybe the smallest amount if I thought they were going to keep it around for a while like with a big birthday cake.

I dunno, that's how my granny baked cakes and it's how everyone I know bakes them, the few people I know who bake, and it's how the recipes I know go as well. American cake is cake made with vegetable oil and is, well, moist and sinister to my tastebuds.

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Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
I don't mean to be rude, but I really do hate being told "Americans feel this way/do this." It is a very big place with many different people, and I think there is quite a lot of evidence in the thread that disproves your statement.

Americans don't "like" putting oil in cakes (or anything as a group because guess what no population is a hivemind.) There may be parts of the country where people make cakes using oil instead of butter, but I genuinely do not think any home bakers do that as a matter of course. I know people do this when baking from a mix, and sure, that makes sense for lovely supermarket cakes because oil is cheaper than butter and no one buys a supermarket cake expecting it to be delicious and decadent, but no, it's not a thing that everyone does.

As an American, I want it on the record that I DON'T like it.

Thank you.

God bless this mess. :usa:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Well congrats on having good sense in home bakers then.

I figured it was just a thing people did over there same way y'all use HFCS a bunch, just more readily available. Obviously there's nothing stopping people from doing it either way but over here I associate it with American style cakes like red velvet and "muffins".

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

I don't mean to be rude, but I really do hate being told "Americans feel this way/do this." It is a very big place with many different people, and I think there is quite a lot of evidence in the thread that disproves your statement.

Americans don't "like" putting oil in cakes (or anything as a group because guess what no population is a hivemind.) There may be parts of the country where people make cakes using oil instead of butter, but I genuinely do not think any home bakers do that as a matter of course. I know people do this when baking from a mix, and sure, that makes sense for lovely supermarket cakes because oil is cheaper than butter and no one buys a supermarket cake expecting it to be delicious and decadent, but no, it's not a thing that everyone does.

As an American, I want it on the record that I DON'T like it.

Thank you.

God bless this mess. :usa:

Agreed. And I am someone who is known in my family and also my in-laws as 'not caring for cake' and passing up dessert for birthdays, but this is generally because the cake is a mess of tasteless wet cardboard with way too much frosting that itself has no flavor but 'sweet'.

However, home-baked cakes usually taste amazing, even if they are rather amateur attempts .

Also, the bread my family usually eats is fresh from a local bakery so I also don't get this generalization that all American bread is cakey, spongy inferior quality. Freshly baked San Francisco sourdough is just as tasty as French or Italian counterparts, in my opinion.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


I hear that in america bread comes either wrapped in individual slices or out of a spray can

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


And we dip our spray bread into straight HFCS. Always.

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!
bread in Europe

Dysgenesis
Jul 12, 2012

HAVE AT THEE!


CommonShore posted:

I hear that in america bread comes either wrapped in individual slices or out of a spray can

Apparently all Americans like it that way.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

OwlFancier posted:

Well congrats on having good sense in home bakers then.

I figured it was just a thing people did over there same way y'all use HFCS a bunch, just more readily available. Obviously there's nothing stopping people from doing it either way but over here I associate it with American style cakes like red velvet and "muffins".

Americans do not use HFCS in any quantity. We sure buy/sell a shitload of processed foods with it in, but that's not what people buy to cook/bake with. At all.


Also, "muffins" are not cakes in any conversational sense. Muffin shaped cakes are called cupcakes.

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

I don't mean to be rude, but I really do hate being told "Americans feel this way/do this." It is a very big place with many different people, and I think there is quite a lot of evidence in the thread that disproves your statement.

Americans don't "like" putting oil in cakes (or anything as a group because guess what no population is a hivemind.) There may be parts of the country where people make cakes using oil instead of butter, but I genuinely do not think any home bakers do that as a matter of course. I know people do this when baking from a mix, and sure, that makes sense for lovely supermarket cakes because oil is cheaper than butter and no one buys a supermarket cake expecting it to be delicious and decadent, but no, it's not a thing that everyone does.

As an American, I want it on the record that I DON'T like it.

Thank you.

God bless this mess. :usa:

Europe sucks. American owns /A europée

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

serious norman posted:

bread in Europe


That would go great toasted and buttered with a nice cup of tea

E: not all of it obviously

Sodium Chloride
Jan 1, 2008

The Bloop posted:

Americans do not use HFCS in any quantity. We sure buy/sell a shitload of processed foods with it in, but that's not what people buy to cook/bake with. At all.


That isn't true. I see American recipes for honeycomb call for corn syrup while British recipes call for golden syrup.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Sodium Chloride posted:

That isn't true. I see American recipes for honeycomb call for corn syrup while British recipes call for golden syrup.

Corn Syrup is not all HFCS or we wouldn't bother to write HF (not that it really matters probably)



It is true that 'golden syrup' is not generally a thing in the US, but syrups hardly accounts for most sugar usage.


Also I wasn't even aware of 'honeycomb' as a thing until googling it from your post. Sort of looks like the stuff in a Butterfinger?

Elizabethan Error
May 18, 2006

it's basically aerated toffee using baking soda/vinegar. also Golden syrup is closer to light molasses than corn syrup.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!
I love how "Americans" are apparently one homogeneous group but if you so much as imply that people from two neighboring towns in England have similar tastes in anything both towns will be ready to murder you for it.

Sodium Chloride
Jan 1, 2008

It's also a great way to try and burn yourself with molten fizzing sugar.

Elizabethan Error
May 18, 2006

Yawgmoth posted:

I love how "Americans" are apparently one homogeneous group but if you so much as imply that people from two neighboring towns in England have similar tastes in anything both towns will be ready to murder you for it.

conversely, I love how Americans will without fail, ask if you're from London if you have an english accent

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Yawgmoth posted:

I love how "Americans" are apparently one homogeneous group but if you so much as imply that people from two neighboring towns in England have similar tastes in anything both towns will be ready to murder you for it.

We see Americans on TV and they all look pretty much the same tbh

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

Sakurazuka posted:

We see Americans on TV and they all look pretty much the same tbh

It isn't like over here where all depictions of the British are the same or anything. Hey look we can make sweeping generalizations about the English too! Like you all have bad teeth lol and you all like beans on toast haha you all love Guiness and gin!

You sound stupid when you do that about "Americans".

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Those are all true though

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

Sakurazuka posted:

Those are all true though

Point stands.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
i would rather have british "long drives" than american ones :smithfrog:

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

sneakyfrog posted:

i would rather have british "long drives" than american ones :smithfrog:

Seriously though. Driving from here to Jacksonville is like, 3 countries in Europe.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

It isn't like over here where all depictions of the British are the same or anything. Hey look we can make sweeping generalizations about the English too! Like you all have bad teeth lol and you all like beans on toast haha you all love Guiness and gin!

You sound stupid when you do that about "Americans".

And they can't do plumbing worth a drat.

And what were they thinking with ring mains? Am I right?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Samizdata posted:

And what were they thinking with ring mains? Am I right?

"How can we do this as cheaply and lethally as possible." I think.

The Bloop posted:

Also, "muffins" are not cakes in any conversational sense. Muffin shaped cakes are called cupcakes.

As far as I can tell they're oily cakes without icing on them.

What are they supposed to be?

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Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


Having lived in both, Britain is a lot better than America Florida.

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.
i like how people say 'american' when they mean 'white people'

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀

When I was a kid we used corn syrup to make art in school. You could drop a big blob of it on construction paper, drop in a few random drops of food colouring, and swirl it around, then let it dry and hang it on the wall.

Then later eat it when your parents weren't looking.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

bad posts ahead!!! posted:

i like how people say 'american' when they mean 'white people in the midwest'

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.
no i meant what i said, white people gentrify and leave a trail of destruction and bland vegan restaurants in their wake

indians do vegan right

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.

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TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
name checks out

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