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Gonkish
May 19, 2004

LordAbaddon posted:

another crash, well Wolfenstein unlocks in less than an hour so I have something to do while I wait for them to fix this

Are you crashing on the loading screen? I had that a few days back, the only thing that fixed it for me was reinstalling Steam. I tried everything else, only that finally killed the crashes.

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Blinks77
Feb 15, 2012

I'm getting a Crash everytime Skyre comes around in the turn wheel on a certain turn. Seems zee game is not quite perfectly up to scratch yet.

New Butt Order
Jun 20, 2017
Atilla wasn't very good.
Warhammer was very good.
Warhammer 2 is not very good.
Warhammer 3 will be good (I don't believe this but it fits the mold)

For the Warhammer fans just joining us, welcome to the Total War Cycle.

Fewd
Mar 22, 2007

#vmp #opsec #kolmiloikka #happoo
Argh, having a huge problem trying to select what I wanna play in ME. I'm a huge fan of VC but just finished a long TW1 campaign with them some weeks ago so not really up for the repetition right now. Skaven sort of somehow seem funny but not sure I like their gameplay. I don't like to micromanage ranged units all that much.

I was thinking of trying dwarfs for the first time. Was wondering though, how do they combat corruption? In the first province I don't see a single building option that would reduce it or increase untainted.

Helion
Apr 28, 2008

Fewd posted:

Argh, having a huge problem trying to select what I wanna play in ME. I'm a huge fan of VC but just finished a long TW1 campaign with them some weeks ago so not really up for the repetition right now. Skaven sort of somehow seem funny but not sure I like their gameplay. I don't like to micromanage ranged units all that much.

I was thinking of trying dwarfs for the first time. Was wondering though, how do they combat corruption? In the first province I don't see a single building option that would reduce it or increase untainted.

The Slayer shrine reduces corruption, and I believe the Runeforge hero does too.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

New Butt Order posted:

Atilla wasn't very good.
Warhammer was very good.
Warhammer 2 is not very good.
Warhammer 3 will be good (I don't believe this but it fits the mold)

For the Warhammer fans just joining us, welcome to the Total War Cycle.

In what world is warhammer 1 good but 2 not?

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS
Wait for ratling gunners to come out before playing skaven. Ratling gunners are the best.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Away all Goats posted:

What the undead really fear are contradictions

the way it worked in tabletop, which they appear to have stolen for this game, is that when two units could cause fear to each other, neither happens.

so while undead are immune to fear, your lord causing fear against undead means that when some crypt terrors are up in his business he is too busy wanting to rip them in half to get scared anymore

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011
If you want a WH2 skill revamp for the Old Worlders in the meantime, might I recommend this mod? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1181665600&searchtext=

It's the same Dwarf skill revamp I posted earlier, with the summonable Miners, except duder has now given every other race a helping hand. Check it out!

Pyronic
Oct 1, 2008

ROYAL RAINWHARRGARBL
Playing Fay Enchantress in Mortal Empires, Carcassonne remains a weird rear end starting location with nothing going on except the forced greenskin incursion event for the first 20 turns of the game.

I like the play style of the Bretons with Enchantress as LL but man this is such a weird campaign at the start, maybe things will get better once I start confederating.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Did they make the AI more reactive to siege weapon shots? Playing as the Dwarfs (Thorgrim start of course), I've managed to take black orcs out of the fight until the battle is won because they were too busy trying to dodge the grudge thrower that is aiming at them (which doesn't work that well anyways). In one battle, the Black Crag garrison was paralyzed because most of its melee cards were too busy trying to dodge which only resulted in my grudge throwers killing by collateral damage anyways.

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO
Has anyone had any loot items spawn in the ocean in ME? I just sailed the coast of the Old World and there were none, and had another lord sailing the around the area from TW2 and he had one basically every move.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Gonkish posted:

Are you crashing on the loading screen? I had that a few days back, the only thing that fixed it for me was reinstalling Steam. I tried everything else, only that finally killed the crashes.

No, it keeps happening when I alt-tab during the ai turns. Screen goes black and won't go away no matter how many ctrlaltdelets or alt-tabs I do. Have to restart the computer just to get the drat thing to close.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Danann posted:

Did they make the AI more reactive to siege weapon shots? Playing as the Dwarfs (Thorgrim start of course), I've managed to take black orcs out of the fight until the battle is won because they were too busy trying to dodge the grudge thrower that is aiming at them (which doesn't work that well anyways). In one battle, the Black Crag garrison was paralyzed because most of its melee cards were too busy trying to dodge which only resulted in my grudge throwers killing by collateral damage anyways.

the ai does a bit more dancing, it feels like

mildly regretful that I had to declare war on mom in my malekith game, but she'd headed north to take one of my moneymaker provinces from me, and left her forces exhausted in interception range

Swamp battlefield involved her AI positioning to its maximum advantage insofar as it could do so, and actually sitting there and eating several bolt thrower shots before charging

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014


I'm pretty new to Total War but this game looked really cool so I picked it up. It's fun so far, but I really really suck; any advice goons? I'm playing as Queek's Skaven and doing... sorta okay? About turn 20ish at this point, I still have my starting units, a fuckton of shield clanrats and some Plagueclaw catapults but the elves are a serious problem.

Also, food is a huge issue, I'm losing about two a turn and afraid of colonizing more poo poo without a way to get a consistent food source. I've been fighting enough battles that I'm more or less stable but any turn I don't fight I start losing food again right away. Is there a good solution I'm missing?

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

aniviron posted:

I'm pretty new to Total War but this game looked really cool so I picked it up. It's fun so far, but I really really suck; any advice goons? I'm playing as Queek's Skaven and doing... sorta okay? About turn 20ish at this point, I still have my starting units, a fuckton of shield clanrats and some Plagueclaw catapults but the elves are a serious problem.

Also, food is a huge issue, I'm losing about two a turn and afraid of colonizing more poo poo without a way to get a consistent food source. I've been fighting enough battles that I'm more or less stable but any turn I don't fight I start losing food again right away. Is there a good solution I'm missing?

All the factions are fairly unique, but imo Skaven are difficult if you aren't familiar with the basic mechanics of the game. Skaven require rapid expansion, you can't turtle with them. That, their economy, and balancing the food/corruption balance makes them very unfriendly for beginners. I would honestly endorse trying any of the other 3 TWII factions to get your feet wet.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

You can raid your own territory for food which causes a rebellion which you can then harvest for food.

Had my first loyalty issue tonight. I recruited a warlord and at the end of turn had two events with + or - loyalty choices, and went full gently caress you new guy you can't make demands like this, get in the bin.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011

Danann posted:

Did they make the AI more reactive to siege weapon shots? Playing as the Dwarfs (Thorgrim start of course), I've managed to take black orcs out of the fight until the battle is won because they were too busy trying to dodge the grudge thrower that is aiming at them (which doesn't work that well anyways). In one battle, the Black Crag garrison was paralyzed because most of its melee cards were too busy trying to dodge which only resulted in my grudge throwers killing by collateral damage anyways.

This would explain why my stupidly-overloaded-on-artillery Skaven army composition would dominate the poo poo out of enemy stacks. 8 batteries dumping constantly would drive the enemy AI haywire.

Memnaelar
Feb 21, 2013

WHO is the goodest girl?

Pyronic posted:

Playing Fay Enchantress in Mortal Empires, Carcassonne remains a weird rear end starting location with nothing going on except the forced greenskin incursion event for the first 20 turns of the game.

I like the play style of the Bretons with Enchantress as LL but man this is such a weird campaign at the start, maybe things will get better once I start confederating.

Yeah, I just tried one and didn't have much success on it. Went over, fought the nearest greenskins so as to end that terrible event, and then was stuck just... flailing a bit. Beastmen and Skaven running around in Estalia, my neighbors to the north not really caring what I do, and the wood elves constantly declaring war but doing nothing. I eventually ate dirt on a skaven ambush after about 35 turns and decided to call it a night. Never played the Lady before but I clearly have a lot to learn about what to do with Brettonia.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011
Huh, Bretonnia now starts in civil war with Bordeleaux starting at war with Bastonne instead of Mousillon. Interesting change.

Brasseye
Feb 13, 2009
This new map is so cool. Spent about an hour pondering who to play as first as ive only finished campaigns with Dwarves, Greenskins and VC so far.

Decided on Empire in the end, who unlike the others Ive played don't really seem to have a weakness? Decent ranged, infantry, really nice cavalry and according to the intro cinematic thing I will get access to some wizards and scary looking artillery pieces later.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
For Queek I have decided to just rush for Eight Peaks. Slaughtering and buring my way through while upgrading my forces to defeat the mutinous gits. Ignoring Kroqgar smashing my old home as he makes a good distraction for other Undead and Orc who could have been bothering me. Eight Peaks is a better homebase anyway.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011

Brasseye posted:

This new map is so cool. Spent about an hour pondering who to play as first as ive only finished campaigns with Dwarves, Greenskins and VC so far.

Decided on Empire in the end, who unlike the others Ive played don't really seem to have a weakness? Decent ranged, infantry, really nice cavalry and according to the intro cinematic thing I will get access to some wizards and scary looking artillery pieces later.

Empire is a definite jack-of-all-trades, and is probably the best at teaching you how to structure and utilize every facet of your army effectively since combined arms is how they get poo poo done. If the enemy has a strong melee infantry core, you'll have your guns/magic/cavalry to break them with while your own melee infantry tanks; stuff like that.

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

toasterwarrior posted:

Empire is a definite jack-of-all-trades, and is probably the best at teaching you how to structure and utilize every facet of your army effectively since combined arms is how they get poo poo done. If the enemy has a strong melee infantry core, you'll have your guns/magic/cavalry to break them with while your own melee infantry tanks; stuff like that.

Also your literal tanks :black101:

I didn't realized how much I missed the blood pack until I had to play without it. Dudes disappearing in a shower of gore when artillery hits is much better tactile feedback for the player then some guys fall over maybe.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled
Teclis's ME start sucks even more than his old one. The Vampire Coast provinces which are your initial expansion route are all vampire corrupted out the rear end so it's impossible to hold them without a million rebellions, which wouldn't ordinarily be a problem except your natural expansion route requires you to declare war on Clan Eshin as well, so they will be sending constant harassment stacks your way while you try to finish pacifying the vampires and dealing with the 4-5 rebellions you'll have before that's over. That's assuming Skrolk doesn't join in on the dogpile too. It's trivially easy to beat up the Vampire Coast with high elves and early skaven stacks are also a joke, but your stack can only be in so many places at once.

I'm just going to say gently caress it and sail to Ulthuan.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

New Butt Order posted:

Atilla wasn't very good.
Warhammer was very good.
Warhammer 2 is not very good.
Warhammer 3 will be good (I don't believe this but it fits the mold)

For the Warhammer fans just joining us, welcome to the Total War Cycle.

It's not Star Trek.

The first two were very good. Rome 1 was good, Medieval 2 was better. Empire was a mess, butNapoleon was much better. Then Shogun 2 was amazing. Rome 2 was a mess at start but received very good post-launch support and is actually a pretty decent game nowadays, there's even some mods that make it great imo if you like historical stuff. I had alot of fun with Attila and really like the time period and never really appreciated why so many people seem to hate it (the spearmen in brown rags stuff is a stupid simplification).

Warhammer 1 was very good and received excellent post-launch support and expansion. Warhammer 2 only suffers somewhat because it had not been polished as much yet with additional content, but I have no idea where you go about calling it not very good.

RBA-Wintrow posted:

Disable all camera movement options in the top left of the screen.

Thanks. Somehow this works. Means they probably should have a look at their camera, see what's wrong.

Randarkman fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Oct 27, 2017

Afriscipio
Jun 3, 2013

Is anyone still getting the "my units forget they were attacking" bug?

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Enjoying my Teclis campaign so far but I miss the steady background BOOM BOOM of the Empire cannon line.

e: High Elf chariots are cool and good

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Afriscipio posted:

Is anyone still getting the "my units forget they were attacking" bug?

It looks like it still exists but it's nowhere near as bad as it was, at least.

Real Cool Catfish
Jun 6, 2011
An army of basic swords, a few halberds and spearman with shields, a few archers and five mortars sure was fun to run into thing.

Pretty much continuous screeching as the mortars pound the battlefield.

Sure I lost that cheap stack to a chaos stack with their much better troops but I'll take a valiant defeat and a tattered chaos army as a result.

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

Formerly known as
Krazyface
Hair Elf

Memnaelar posted:

Yeah, I just tried one and didn't have much success on it. Went over, fought the nearest greenskins so as to end that terrible event, and then was stuck just... flailing a bit. Beastmen and Skaven running around in Estalia, my neighbors to the north not really caring what I do, and the wood elves constantly declaring war but doing nothing. I eventually ate dirt on a skaven ambush after about 35 turns and decided to call it a night. Never played the Lady before but I clearly have a lot to learn about what to do with Brettonia.

Cancelling the Greenskin event is kind of a trap choice. It's better to ride it out, maximising your settlement's unhappiness to start (and then kill) a revolt every single turn. This will give your starting force a tonne of XP, and heaps of chivalry, esp if you beelined the tech that rewards you for beating orcs.

Of course, ~optimal play~ might not necessarily be fun for you, in which case you might be better off trying a different leader or faction.

Staltran
Jan 3, 2013

Fallen Rib
Do summons get tech/lord buffs? Wondering if getting the clanrat buff skill is worth it if you don't have any actual clanrats in your army.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
It is amazing how fun it is to fight skaven when you are defending a settlement. There is nothing quite like the feeling of knowing that you have butchered thousands already but they are going to keep on coming. My highlight of the most recent siege was having a max level scar veteran on carnosaur tear apart a doomwheel that came on the field towards the end (I was fighting four stacks so not everything was able to fit on the battlefield at once) before tearing apart another whilst being hosed down by warp-throwers. Despite being almost dead and rampaging he survived the second doomwheel and came tearing after the warp-throwers who promptly decided to book it not that it helped them or anything.

RBA-Wintrow
Nov 4, 2009


Clapping Larry

LordAbaddon posted:

No, it keeps happening when I alt-tab during the ai turns. Screen goes black and won't go away no matter how many ctrlaltdelets or alt-tabs I do. Have to restart the computer just to get the drat thing to close.

Does the background music stop? Then the game has crashed.
If it keeps going then it's an overlay issue somewhere. Try playing the game in Windowed mode instead of Fullscreen.
I don't know if it's possible to stop the Steam overlay somehow (Shift+Tab) but that might be what gives you the black screen.
Is your monitor and the game in the same resolution?

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues
My Wood Elf campaign got going and the presence of Skavenblight really changed things up. Poor Estalia never got off the ground as a tide of rats swept over them, which actually gave Carcassonne room to grow and start pushing back into the approaching horde of Skaven. While that happened Orion nipped down just past Tilea and swooped Skavenblight out from under them (and managed to get back home in time to fend off Malagor). Back in the day Estalia would usually contain the Enchantress' armies and sometimes destroy her wholesale, but now it's an all new rat game. Also Tyrion was really not happy to see his deranged cousins once I hit Bretonnia's coastlines. Bit rude.

Wood Elves still only need to do their usual tree-building and defending stuff to win the game, but the fourth stage of World Tree upgrading requires about 35 amber. I don't think it was that much last time but hooooly crap I'm going to have to make more friends, trick them into letting me fight their wars with them, and then take over all their enemy's territories so I get ALL THE TREE SAP because the final stage is probably going to be nuts.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

TheLastRoboKy posted:

My Wood Elf campaign

Please LP it and bring Coolguye along.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

A part of me feels 4 plague claws is a bit much, but the other 95% of me is very lol get hosed elves.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011

Knobb Manwich posted:

A part of me feels 4 plague claws is a bit much, but the other 95% of me is very lol get hosed elves.

Put it this way: one day you'll encounter an army that's just seaboys and archers or whatever kite-happy assholes the Wood Elves can send and your rats won't even get to melee. No mercy for elves IMO

TheLastRoboKy
May 2, 2009

Finishing the game with everyone else's continues

Angry Lobster posted:

Please LP it and bring Coolguye along.

I am 100% not good enough at this game to LP it but I'll do a Dwarf campaign with only one lord named Karoc Rockpounder if pressed.


toasterwarrior posted:

Put it this way: one day you'll encounter an army that's just seaboys and archers or whatever kite-happy assholes the Wood Elves can send and your rats won't even get to melee. No mercy for elves IMO

Absolutely. Wood Elves can drop vanguards loaded with arrows on you from the word go and then happily skip backwards out of reach. Smear them down with artillery (and hope they don't drop anything on the artillery).

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Dongattack
Dec 20, 2006

by Cyrano4747
Does a reinforcing lord bring his red skills to the battle? Like if i put skillpoints that buff skavenslaves or clanrats on my fodder army, will they work when he reinforces me?

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