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Nah, he was posting the bobvids one I asked about. I'd forgotten about that one, even though I watched it and everything! Thanks, Equeen.
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https://twitter.com/SteeScribbles/status/923545594634829824 I don't own a 360 or XBONE, so I'm not familiar with the Kinect, but wasn't it considered to be pretty bad compared to the Wii's motion controls?
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Kinect had some impressive tech that was pretty much exclusively used by robotics and computer vision people and neglected by gamemakers because the gesture recognition wasn't really there and had significant problems with things like lack of physical feedback. Just Dance was the only really big Kinect game for a pretty good reason, the machine isn't really that GOOD at anything else without a ton of tech that didn't really exist yet (and much of which still doesn't).
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Max Wilco posted:https://twitter.com/SteeScribbles/status/923545594634829824 The Kinect was real garbage. I don't know why anyone would even think fondly of it.
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Oct 27, 2017 01:50
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McIntosh continues to go on bizarre videogame spiels, the kinect was rear end.
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Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. VR is where that direction is going and even the most basic gallery shooter is a millions times better, involving and, most importantly, fun than just about anything that appeared on the Kinect. This poo poo just reads like some half-baked hot take. And yeah, 2017 has been a pretty great year for releasing for the sheer quantity, quality and breadth of releases. Just about everyone got something great to play.
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Oct 27, 2017 01:55
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Oct 27, 2017 01:59
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The Kinect wasn't really all that capable of whatever fanciful things Johnnie Mac thinks it would have been able to do. The spec was a lot stronger when it was Project Natal and Peter Molyneux was pushing Milo and Kate, but Microsoft/Alex Kipman ultimately went more towards the party market, which it wasn't really able to go that far beyond. In any case it had its place and had its time but it has been far superseded and he is, as usual, talking out of his backside.
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Jimbot posted:Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. VR is where that direction is going and even the most basic gallery shooter is a millions times better, involving and, most importantly, fun than just about anything that appeared on the Kinect. This poo poo just reads like some half-baked hot take. VR works, because it actually works as-advertized. This is your hand holding the gun, look down at it in your hand. Kinect doesn't because its just "look, see, its an icon of your hand jittering about through the screen when it sometimes tracks!" I think the only game that might've been considered good for Kinect is maybe Child of Eden? Even then it had regular controls as well.
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Jimbot posted:Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. VR is where that direction is going and even the most basic gallery shooter is a millions times better, involving and, most importantly, fun than just about anything that appeared on the Kinect. This poo poo just reads like some half-baked hot take. Testekill posted:The Kinect was real garbage. I don't know why anyone would even think fondly of it.
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Oct 27, 2017 02:17
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Spark That Bled posted:If they could afford all the microtransactions? There have been plenty of great games released without microtransactions this year. Even in the triple A scene.
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Oct 27, 2017 02:18
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remember when the Kinect couldn't see black people
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Genocyber posted:There have been plenty of great games released without microtransactions this year. Even in the triple A scene. But they're still doing them, aren't they?
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Oct 27, 2017 02:27
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sexpig by night posted:remember when the Kinect couldn't see black people Doesn't it still have that or did they ever fix it, I remember the Best Friends playing janky Star Wars games with it like a year ago and it wouldn't pick up Woolie. 
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Yardbomb posted:Doesn't it still have that or did they ever fix it, I remember the Best Friends playing janky Star Wars games with it like a year ago and it wouldn't pick up Woolie. hosed if I know, wouldn't be surprised if it did. Speaking of SBF revealing Kinect flaws, remember when the system designed around being able to tag your friends in and out seamlessly freaked out if anyone shorter than you tagged in? Poor tiny baby man Pat.
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Linear Zoetrope posted:Kinect had some impressive tech that was pretty much exclusively used by robotics and computer vision people and neglected by gamemakers Also VR improves on the Kinect's problems to a minor degree while introducing a host of its own, namely that while it's dumb to just flail your arms around it's double dumb to put on a helmet that obstructs your vision with a 1" umbilical coming out of the back of your head. As weird as it sounds the Wii Motion+ may very well have been the sweet spot until low-latency wireless 4k doesn't require $10,000 in hardware (though now I'm wondering if Nick Thomas would loan me DDG's Teradeck for a weekend to see if we could get the PS VR to be nominally wireless...)
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I dont think you get modern VR if you think it's random wiimote-esque arm flailing. Wireless VR also exists now for the Vive and it is not going to be anywhere near 10 grand for a VR setup. 2-3 grand, without a pre-existing PC, at most. Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Oct 27, 2017 |
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Like the only games that actually worked with it was Kenect sports and Just Dance. Otherwise...That thing never worked. Was anyone even developing for it?
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I dont think you get modern VR if you think it's random wiimote-esque arm flailing. Yeah, while I think Vive or one of the systems need you to set up sensors and such in a room, I have seen people doing VR with just the headset while still using a mouse and keyboard. Also, while it's not really 'authentic' VR, I've seen cheap goggles and such that hook onto smartphones to try and do the same thing.
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BigRed0427 posted:Like the only games that actually worked with it was Kenect sports and Just Dance. Otherwise...That thing never worked. D4 was a Kinect game. 
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Max Wilco posted:Yeah, while I think Vive or one of the systems need you to set up sensors and such in a room, I have seen people doing VR with just the headset while still using a mouse and keyboard. You can run Leap Motion with Daydream, I think, so that's untethered VR with virtual hands more-or-less following your own. Can't deliver the same experience as an Oculus/Vive backed by an Nvidia GTX 1070, but it's getting somewhere. If they make a self-contained version of the new Windows Mixed Reality headset, that's going to be a game changer. 1440x1440 per eye is AWESOME.
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Genocyber posted:D4 was a Kinect game. Didn't Microsoft promise a ton to any developers willing to develop a potential flagship title for the Kinect? I read somewhere that Suda51 was like halfway through it before Microsoft announced that the kinect wasn't going to be bundled with the XBONE which killed any potential that it had to make money.
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Yardbomb posted:Doesn't it still have that or did they ever fix it, I remember the Best Friends playing janky Star Wars games with it like a year ago and it wouldn't pick up Woolie.
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Andrast posted:So if casinos started giving out, idk, gummy bears when you don't win money it wouldn't be gambling any more? Casino gives out Haribo "devil poo poo" sugar-free gummies. People at the slot machines still don't get up. I can't finish this post I made myself too sad and grossed out.
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Kim Justice posted:I want to kick Jim Sterling cold square in the bollocks for being indirectly responsible for the last page. Put on some spandex and get in the ring!
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Honestly I'm perfectly content with the level of motion controls present in the Wii U and Switch. Just being able to do stuff like "tilt the controller to aim in more precisely" is pretty great. VR is neat and all but I don't see myself ever using it for more than a few minutes
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The two best things to follow in VR right now is Sairento, which is a cyberpunk ninja game that lets you do backflips off of walls in slow-motion with a pistol in each hand shooting mecha samurai and cybergeishas. It's fuckin' fantastic. The other thing is Anton's continued development of Horseshoes, Hotdogs, and Hand Grenades, which came out on EA looking super crappy, but after all this time with frequent updates is a must have for the platform. It started out a bland gun simulator and has expanded into a bunch of different fun levels like a Westworld parody and coming soon a VR zombie hot dog mode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adaoAUoCMs0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enMwK9GAOV8 He has a lot of heart and watching his updates as he goes into detail about the bits and kinks of making a solid VR gun simulator, his armswinger implementation is probably the best movement system I've seen in VR yet in the sense that all you really need to do now is stand in place to get the full effect. I've yet to feel bad about giving him money. He just added a bunch of melee weapons and here he is running around with a claymore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrfIhN-x-24
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MisterBibs posted:The flaw with this is the same flaw in what cat doter suggested: in the end, the players as a whole are a-ok with this thing you're mad about. If folks didn't ultimately like the lootcrate stuff, they wouldn't funnel cash into it. If they had a beef with AAA publishers, they wouldn't buy them in the first place. The games are designed around the lootcrates and coerce gamers into buying the crates. Gamers are OK with loot crates because they have to be. Your take is stupid.
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Yardbomb posted:Doesn't it still have that or did they ever fix it, I remember the Best Friends playing janky Star Wars games with it like a year ago and it wouldn't pick up Woolie. To be fair, the man dresses like a chameleon.
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RareAcumen posted:To be fair, the man dresses like a chameleon. Being fair to machines is what will ultimately lead us to Skynet.
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Testekill posted:Didn't Microsoft promise a ton to any developers willing to develop a potential flagship title for the Kinect? I read somewhere that Suda51 was like halfway through it before Microsoft announced that the kinect wasn't going to be bundled with the XBONE which killed any potential that it had to make money. Not to be a nitpicky arsehole but its Swery65 not Suda51 which I guess makes me a nitpicky arsehole.
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Wrageowrapper posted:Not to be a nitpicky arsehole but its Swery65 not Suda51 which I guess makes me a nitpicky arsehole. Right right, had the wrong dude.
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Jesus. Mike got so drunk over the course of the panel he picked the worst choice sincerely 
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Huzanko posted:The games are designed around the lootcrates and coerce gamers into buying the crates. Gamers are OK with loot crates because they have to be. Your take is stupid. Mr. Bibs and his bad video game opinions are a pretty accurate representation of the average gamer, however. Wrageowrapper posted:Not to be a nitpicky arsehole but its Swery65 not Suda51 which I guess makes me a nitpicky arsehole. Oh no, that wasn't his new game about the cat town was it? Is that still a thing that's happening?
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Nuebot posted:
The game that Testekill is referring to is D4 which has a cat girl in it and was originally marketed as an episodic kinect game. I think he did one episode but then got ill and quit both the industry and the project. i don't know if poor sales had anything else to do with the games death but I guess that wouldn't surprise me. *edit, I don't know if he quit for good so maybe he has a cattown thing happening as well.
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Yeah, Swery came back recently and tried to crowdfund a game set in a town where everyone turns into cats at night, but the project failed to meet its goal. Last I heard, they were going to try again in a few months with a more modest target and on Kickstarter (instead of Fig).
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Swery's animal people game unfortunately failed to get funding, only got like 40% if I remember right. I really wish they hadn't put it on fuckin Fig, just go to Kickstarter or something where people will actually throw down. E;fb
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Nuebot posted:Mr. Bibs and his bad video game opinions are a pretty accurate representation of the average gamer, however. I don't know what you would define as an average gamer, but I think most people would be be happy if they didn't have to buy loot crates and would not necessarily defend the practice. Bibs' argument seems more fitting to this Matt Bors comic:  Actually...  Did I go too far with this? Wrageowrapper posted:The game that Testekill is referring to is D4 which has a cat girl in it and was originally marketed as an episodic kinect game. I think he did one episode but then got ill and quit both the industry and the project. i don't know if poor sales had anything else to do with the games death but I guess that wouldn't surprise me. Didn't Swery say he was going to live as a monk, or was that a different Japanese game dev?
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Max Wilco posted:Didn't Swery say he was going to live as a monk, or was that a different Japanese game dev? That was Swery for a while yeah.
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