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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
oh man

edit: oh dog

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namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Trump only did undergrad at upenn.

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?
Here's an article about how Republicans across the country are watching the Virginia race closely to see if aggressive race-baiting will pay dividends:
Why the Virginia Governor's Race Could Echo Across the Country

Even if the Dems win this, Gillespie outperforming expectations could be taken as a sign that his kind of campaign could be successful in other races.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006
Catalonia just declared independence from Spain:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...m=.7f377d721f62

WaPo posted:

Breaking News: Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain as Madrid looks to seize control of regional government.

BARCELONA — In an extraordinary showdown over the future of the country, the Spanish and Catalan parliaments staged dueling sessions Friday — as the central government pressed for permission to take over control of the breakaway region, and the secessionists in Catalonia trying to finally bring a formal declaration of independence.

After bitter exchanges between Catalonia’s lawmakers — some strongly backing secession and others calling it a historic mistake — the regional parliament endorsed efforts to split from Spain.

The next move could be a formal declaration of statehood, less than a month after a referendum that backed the push for independence.

The deepening feud has left little middle ground in Spain for possible compromises and has spilled over to the European Union, whose leaders fear another internal crisis after major upheavals such as Britain’s exit from the bloc and the financial meltdown in Greece.

In Madrid, Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy urged the Senate to grant the central government unprecedented powers to establish control over Catalonia

If the Senate invokes the never-before-used Article 155 of Spain’s 1978 constitution, the central government could move swiftly to remove the Catalan president, suspend his ministers and assume authority over the region’s public media, police and finances.

Rajoy told the Senate that his government had repeatedly tried to rein in the secessionists in Catalonia. He scoffed at Catalan President Carles Puigdemont’s repeated offers of “dialogue” to end the impasse.

“The word dialogue is a lovely word. It creates good feelings,” Rajoy said. “But dialogue has two enemies: those who abuse, ignore and forget the laws, and those who only want to listen to themselves, who do not want to understand the other party.”

Rajoy urged the Senate to approve Article 155 “to prevent Catalonia from being abused.”

“Catalans must be protected from an intolerant minority that is awarding itself ownership of Catalonia, and is trying to subject all Catalans to the yoke of its own doctrine,” the prime minister said.

In Barcelona, meanwhile, the parliament formally proposed a declaration of independence, that read: “We shall constitute the Catalan Republic as an independent, and sovereign, democratic and social state of law.”

As the Catalan parliament began its session, shouts of “independence!” and “democracy!” rose from an antechamber where hundreds of onlookers, including dozens of regional mayors, had gathered.

The eruption was answered by disdain from anti-secessionists in the chamber. A member of the Catalan Socialist Party, Daniel Fernández, asked: “What is this? The storming of the Bastille?”

Carlos Carrizosa of the Ciudadanos party decried the prospect of a declaration of independence, comparing it to a coup. He pointed at Puigdemont and said: “You, president, have been pro-independence your whole life. This whole plan was already laid out.”

“This movement is textbook populism, full of magical thinking, that reality has destroyed. You are willing to sacrifice all, for your pure fanatism,” said Alejandro Fernández, a Catalan lawmaker whose Popular Party is also running the central government.

On Thursday, facing a looming deadline to act, Puigdemont appeared in the government palace in Barcelona and said the regional parliament must decide what will happen next.

Puigdemont’s words Thursday clearly upset many of his constituents, who believed they were getting close to forming a new republic.

“They don’t care about the people, because we already voted for independence,” said Joana Romera, 25, a university student who had come to the Catalan government palace to hear what Puigdemont had to say.

“At the end, it’s always the politicians who decide,” she said, flashing disappointment and anger. “We’re in the same situation as before.”

Puigdemont denounced what he described as heavy-handed tactics by the central government in Madrid.

“I have considered the possibility of calling elections,” Puigdemont said. But he ruled it out because “there are not enough guarantees” from the central government not to seize control of the region.

Puigdemont reportedly sought a promise from Rajoy that the Spanish senate would not vote on Article 155 — a “nuclear option” that has never been tried.

More than 2 million people cast ballots earlier this month for independence, though the turnout for the referendum was around 40 percent of eligible voters.

During the vote, Spanish national police and Guardia Civil paramilitary officers used harsh tactics, in some cases beating voters with rubber batons and dragging people away from the ballot boxes.

The president of Spain’s Basque region, Inigo Urkullu, a key intermediary between Rajoy and Puigdemont, told journalists the situation is Catalonia “was very worrying” and required “responsibility” on the part of the two sides.”

But he allowed himself note of optimism. “I think there is still time to reach a solution,” Urkullu said in Spanish and then added in the local Basque language. “And we are trying.”


Is there a thread about this or is it just being covered in EuroPol?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

HappyHippo posted:

Here's an article about how Republicans across the country are watching the Virginia race closely to see if aggressive race-baiting will pay dividends:
Why the Virginia Governor's Race Could Echo Across the Country

Even if the Dems win this, Gillespie outperforming expectations could be taken as a sign that his kind of campaign could be successful in other races.

they won't and it will

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Moatman posted:

I'd strongly disagree with Elizabeth's assertion that BBT is the most sexist show on network TV for the simple fact that The Bachelor airs on ABC. The most sexist sitcom? Probably (although that Seth McFarlane Star Trek will probably manage to be worse).
The Seth McFarlane Star Trek has already aired half it's episodes for this season, and hasn't been sexist so far. It's basically just TNG with occasional fart jokes.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

Kale posted:

Terrible for the gaming community, but great for the publisher.

Disagree; games need to be deeper and more involved in the goings on of our culture. They can serve as better storytelling devices than television, and should.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

RevKrule posted:

The most disgusting part of this is the writer knows it's unconstitutional but also wants to push it because he believes that by the time it worms its way through the court Donnie's gonna get another SCOTUS justice who will be more willing to make it law.

It's not going to get passed by Congress at all.

Oxxidation posted:

they won't and it will

Dems are basically overwhelming favorites to win in a state that went for Clinton +4. Of course they can lose but it's unlikely.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


namaste faggots posted:

Trump only did undergrad at upenn.
Not only that, he transferred after 2 years.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Dems are basically overwhelming favorites to win in a state that went for Clinton +4.

I wouldn't say they are overwhelming favorites, but at this point they have better odds of winning than the GOP. It's going to come down to turnout and I'm hopeful that NOVA turns out like it did four years ago, if not more so.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Handsome Ralph posted:

I wouldn't say they are overwhelming favorites, but at this point they have better odds of winning than the GOP. It's going to come down to turnout and I'm hopeful that NOVA turns out like it did four years ago, if not more so.

Fair enough. I'm just saying that going "actually no, the Dems are definitely going to lose" is asinine.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Fair enough. I'm just saying that going "actually no, the Dems are definitely going to lose" is asinine.

I completely agree.

Vlaada Chvatil
Sep 23, 2014

Bunny bunny moose moose
College Slice

KickerOfMice posted:

Donald Trump is the "cube" of presidents.

It's on netflix and it's............. A person filmed it.




SkyDog.

Just chiming in a day late to say gently caress you, Cube rules

Dignity Van Houten
Jul 28, 2006

abcdefghijk
ELLAMENNO-P


HappyHippo posted:

Here's an article about how Republicans across the country are watching the Virginia race closely to see if aggressive race-baiting will pay dividends:
Why the Virginia Governor's Race Could Echo Across the Country

Even if the Dems win this, Gillespie outperforming expectations could be taken as a sign that his kind of campaign could be successful in other races.

Secondary to this I wonder if candidates or Trump himself will make a connection that a Trump endorsement = political poison.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

935 posted:

Secondary to this I wonder if candidates or Trump himself will make a connection that a Trump endorsement = political poison.

That's the hope.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

That's the hope.

It would be better if they didn't make the connection.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

Doctor Spaceman posted:

It would be better if they didn't make the connection.

I don't think Trump's brain CAN make that connection.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Nevvy Z posted:

I don't think Trump's brain CAN make that connection.

He'd never admit it. Even if 100% of the candidates he endorsed lost he'd just rewrite history to show that while he suggested the guy would be good, that he never guaranteed anything. Tweets supporting them would suddenly disappear.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Medullah posted:

He'd never admit it. Even if 100% of the candidates he endorsed lost he'd just rewrite history to show that while he suggested the guy would be good, that he never guaranteed anything. Tweets supporting them would suddenly disappear.

I don't think Trump had ever deleted a tweet.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I don't think Trump had ever deleted a tweet.

He's deleted a ton. I know he's deleted quite a few where he spelled something wrong, then retweeted it later.

Your Boy Fancy
Feb 7, 2003

by Cyrano4747
Did somebody say NoVA turnout?! *rushes thread with endless phone bank logins*

Seriously though. If you worry, you can help with NoVA turnout. You already care more than most Americans. Might as well put the anxiety to good use, right? :)

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Medullah posted:

He's deleted a ton. I know he's deleted quite a few where he spelled something wrong, then retweeted it later.

He also deleted all his Luthor Strange support tweets after Roy Moore won so no one would think he supported a loser.

Phoix
Jul 20, 2006




https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/923920371405021184

Other highlights

quote:

Another time, he recalled, “our idiots” made a video that supposedly featured an African-American soldier shooting a Quran. But, Baskaev laughs, the man turned out to have an African accent. (Comments on the YouTube page for that video are in Russian, mocking the failed piece of propaganda.)

Baskaev said that if he thought his former bosses or their patrons were people who could hurt him for speaking out, he wouldn’t be showing his face on camera. And, he suggested, security at the troll factory was pretty lax and didn’t pick up audio. The night shift trolls played ISIS songs and greeted each other with “Glory to Ukraine,” Baskaev told TV Rain.

Basaev says he was eventually fired after his bosses discovered he pre-wrote forum posts and simply pasted them in, instead of responding to content.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp
I've actually got an uncle who's a professor at Penn and his opinions of the Wharton school are... not kind.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

Your Boy Fancy posted:

Did somebody say NoVA turnout?! *rushes thread with endless phone bank logins*

Seriously though. If you worry, you can help with NoVA turnout. You already care more than most Americans. Might as well put the anxiety to good use, right? :)

I'm voting for every blue fucker I see on that ticket that I can and will probably need reminders of who to write in because the red area just up and forgot everyone but Gill.

Your Boy Fancy
Feb 7, 2003

by Cyrano4747

Crabtree posted:

I'm voting for every blue fucker I see on that ticket that I can and will probably need reminders of who to write in because the red area just up and forgot everyone but Gill.

What’s your district?

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?

Your Boy Fancy posted:

Did somebody say NoVA turnout?! *rushes thread with endless phone bank logins*

Seriously though. If you worry, you can help with NoVA turnout. You already care more than most Americans. Might as well put the anxiety to good use, right? :)

I'd just like to say that your remarkable patience in dealing with the USPol thread is admirable

Moatman
Mar 21, 2014

Because the goof is all mine.

Your Boy Fancy posted:

Did somebody say NoVA turnout?! *rushes thread with endless phone bank logins*

Seriously though. If you worry, you can help with NoVA turnout. You already care more than most Americans. Might as well put the anxiety to good use, right? :)

I'm signed up to do doorknocking for the next two weekends. Hopefully it won't matter and we crush Gillespie by double digit margins but better safe than sorry
e: Also saw this making the rounds on twitter today: https://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/4s1tdh/matt_taibbi_and_mark_ames_are_serial_rapists/
Short version, Matt Taibbi and Mark Ames raped a bunch of Russian girls (and I do mean girls, there's bits of Ames bragging about raping a 15 year old) when they were editors of The Exile.
This is probably more on topic for USPOL but that thread is literally unusable and whatever Taibbi's tangentially related to Chapo which is more or less on topic for the Trump Thread

Moatman fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Oct 27, 2017

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

I've actually got an uncle who's a professor at Penn and his opinions of the Wharton school are... not kind.

Favorable opinions of business schools tend to originate from inside said business schools.

Your Boy Fancy
Feb 7, 2003

by Cyrano4747

HappyHippo posted:

I'd just like to say your remarkable patience in dealing with the USPol thread is admirable

I have been, am, and will be as angry as they are. gently caress, man. We have to be.

I’m also boundlessly optimistic. The past 24 hours got at least one person making phone calls, and that makes it meaningful. Old organizer once taught me that even a single convert to the cause is a damned victory and a reason to celebrate. Even as awful as inauguration was, the awakening from the Women’s March 24 hours later was euphoric. Let me know that we’re gonna be okay if we work for it.

That’s really the argument - can the anti-GOP wing of America unite for a common cause? We agree on the problem. The solution is the argument, and it gets heated. And gently caress, man. We bled for Hillary. Even if we hated her. Getting past that is HARD.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich

TheScott2K posted:

Favorable opinions of business schools tend to originate from inside said business schools.

Well, that and the businesses that recruit from them...

Business school rankings are based mostly on a few metrics, but placement and salary are big ones.

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich
So it looks like 3% GDP growth despite the storms. I have to admit that’s pretty excellent.

Don’t know if Trump has anything to do with it but that’s something all Americans should be happy about it. Look at this: unemployment below 5%, GDP growth above 2.5%. Those are very very good.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Vladimir Putin posted:

So it looks like 3% GDP growth despite the storms. I have to admit that’s pretty excellent.

Don’t know if Trump has anything to do with it but that’s something all Americans should be happy about it. Look at this: unemployment below 5%, GDP growth above 2.5%. Those are very very good.

I'm done telling myself to feel good about growth that goes on to do nothing but pad investment accounts.

twice burned ice
Dec 29, 2008

My stove defies the laws of physics!

Vladimir Putin posted:

So it looks like 3% GDP growth despite the storms. I have to admit that’s pretty excellent.

Don’t know if Trump has anything to do with it but that’s something all Americans should be happy about it. Look at this: unemployment below 5%, GDP growth above 2.5%. Those are very very good.

All 3% GDP and the market ATH say to me is that someone's getting rich and it sure as hell isn't me.

TheScott2K posted:

I'm done telling myself to feel good about growth that goes on to do nothing but pad investment accounts.

:same:

RBA-Wintrow
Nov 4, 2009


Clapping Larry

axeil posted:

Catalonia just declared independence from Spain:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...m=.7f377d721f62



Is there a thread about this or is it just being covered in EuroPol?

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3767159&pagenumber=538#lastpost

Europol, Day of wrath

Javes
May 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT APPEARING OFFLINE SO I DON'T HAVE TO TELL FRIENDS THEY'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY VIDEO GAME TEAM.
https://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/923892748989730816

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

TheScott2K posted:

I'm done telling myself to feel good about growth that goes on to do nothing but pad investment accounts.

It also decreases the value of your money!

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Vladimir Putin posted:

So it looks like 3% GDP growth despite the storms. I have to admit that’s pretty excellent.

Don’t know if Trump has anything to do with it but that’s something all Americans should be happy about it.

just made the jerkoff motion so vigorously that something in my elbow went click

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Everyone already knows this is coming from the game publisher so they can take advantage of the recent upsurge in right wing assholes but I'm failing to see the problem with spreading the good word that Nazis and White Supremacists ought to have their skulls caved in at any and every opportunity. Also as far as I'm concerned if it causes shitheads with alt-right views to out themselves and get ostracized from the rest of the gaming community all the better. :shrug:

Leftists despise the mainstream co-opting their affectations, even when it helps shift the public narrative. Hell, especially if it shifts the narrative. Most importantly though, we must remember that fun is counter-revolutionary and self-care in the form of recreational nazi slaughter is a decadent indulgence.

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Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

Moatman posted:

I'm signed up to do doorknocking for the next two weekends. Hopefully it won't matter and we crush Gillespie by double digit margins but better safe than sorry
e: Also saw this making the rounds on twitter today: https://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/4s1tdh/matt_taibbi_and_mark_ames_are_serial_rapists/
Short version, Matt Taibbi and Mark Ames raped a bunch of Russian girls (and I do mean girls, there's bits of Ames bragging about raping a 15 year old) when they were editors of The Exile.
This is probably more on topic for USPOL but that thread is literally unusable and whatever Taibbi's tangentially related to Chapo which is more or less on topic for the Trump Thread

Isn't this sort of like Harvey Weinstein in that everyone has always known the exile guys were creeps forever? I swear I've heard stuff about Ames for like, a decade.

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