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The formatting of the first book makes it such a slog. The fonts are like the least readable ones I've ever seen in a book.
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Oct 26, 2017 20:44
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SeANMcBAY posted:I don’t consider those silly books canon unless Lynch himself says so. Yeah, ‘cause gently caress the other guy who created the show.
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Oct 26, 2017 22:51
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Possible Book Spoiler? Maybe?: You'd have to dig way back near the time of the finale for my very long post theorizing on what happened in the finale, though it was quoted and discussed a lot. According to early spoilers, I was mostly right. Feels good.
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Oct 27, 2017 03:00
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SaintFu posted:Yeah, ‘cause gently caress the other guy who created the show. Yes?
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Oct 27, 2017 04:16
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SeANMcBAY posted:Yes? Why? It's a collaborative process. Without Frost there is no Twin Peaks. It's super lovely when people think Lynch just does it all himself, ignoring all the good, crucial work of Frost.
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Oct 27, 2017 07:21
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frost was the one who approached lynch about making this season in the first place
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Oct 27, 2017 14:40
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Alan_Shore posted:Why? It's a collaborative process. Without Frost there is no Twin Peaks. It's super lovely when people think Lynch just does it all himself, ignoring all the good, crucial work of Frost. It's a weird situation. Without Lynch, Twin Peaks would be terrible. The entire Jacques Tati Dougie setup is clearly his thing, and so are all of the surreal horrifying things. You can even trace them back to some of his art. What exactly is Frost's contribution, though? People used to say, Frost kept Lynch grounded, but this season isn't even slightly grounded. Season three barely had a proper investigation in it. Is he just responsible for the Tulpas, numerology and sex magick?
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Oct 27, 2017 15:57
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And More posted:It's a weird situation. Without Lynch, Twin Peaks would be terrible. The entire Jacques Tati Dougie setup is clearly his thing, and so are all of the surreal horrifying things. You can even trace them back to some of his art. What exactly is Frost's contribution, though? People used to say, Frost kept Lynch grounded, but this season isn't even slightly grounded. Season three barely had a proper investigation in it. Is he just responsible for the Tulpas, numerology and sex magick? Outside Frost and Lynch, I don't think anyone has any real idea about the division of writing for the series. Lynch is responsible for the visual aspects of the show, but the story, the characters and the mythology could have come from either or both of them. I think most people, for instance, identify episode 8 with Lynch, but I think it fits very well with what Frost was doing in the Secret History.
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Oct 27, 2017 18:03
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Frost wasn't involved in FWWM at all, so I would argue that the mythology aspect is probably Lynch's creation, unless you consider the dubious connections to the occult or numerology or whatever part of the mythology. Not to say that Lynch didn't build on things that Frost conceived (or that Frost didn't build on things that Lynch conceived) but if Twin Peaks without Lynch is late Season 2 and Twin Peaks without Frost is FWWM, I know which one I'd prefer.
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Oct 27, 2017 18:13
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Mark Frost wrote Albert's speech to Truman, and is therefore forever immune from criticism.
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Oct 27, 2017 23:36
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And More posted:It's a weird situation. Without Lynch, Twin Peaks would be terrible. The entire Jacques Tati Dougie setup is clearly his thing, and so are all of the surreal horrifying things. You can even trace them back to some of his art. What exactly is Frost's contribution, though? People used to say, Frost kept Lynch grounded, but this season isn't even slightly grounded. Season three barely had a proper investigation in it. Is he just responsible for the Tulpas, numerology and sex magick? I don't know what really goes on behind the scenes, but when people say Frost keeps Lynch grounded I think they mean someone has to get all those crazy ideas into an actual script with specific scenes in set locations in a clear order.
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Oct 27, 2017 23:37
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Frost is behind the owl stuff too. He's aite.
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Oct 28, 2017 00:14
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Slum Village posted:Mark Frost wrote Albert's speech to Truman, and is therefore forever immune from criticism. Refresh my memory?
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Oct 28, 2017 00:24
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Doggone good show https://twitter.com/Kyle_MacLachlan/status/923918690667651072
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Oct 28, 2017 00:32
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Krinkle posted:Refresh my memory? Albert Roselfield posted:Now you listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman.
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Oct 28, 2017 00:44
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You just have to see it in motion, it's too perfect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf0ZvY2usbY&t=38s
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Oct 28, 2017 01:56
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Anyone see David Lynch: The Art Life? I gave it a watch yesterday and its kind of a neat look into his history. Little more revealing than I thought it would be while somehow not revealing much at all.
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Oct 28, 2017 07:24
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Raxivace posted:Anyone see David Lynch: The Art Life? I gave it a watch yesterday and its kind of a neat look into his history. Little more revealing than I thought it would be while somehow not revealing much at all.
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Oct 28, 2017 08:02
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edit: Oh gently caress I'm a dipshit and posted this in the wrong thread
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Oct 28, 2017 21:20
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:While I rewatch the early parts of the new season with a roommate, I'm making a list of the songs used in it to send to my mother to make her finally watch this show, since I know she'd love it. Is there a tracklist already compiled somewhere to save me any work?
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Oct 28, 2017 21:52
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Yep! It makes his movies make more sense to me, knowing the background he came from. Even the name "Bushnell" turned out to be the name of a guy he actually knew.
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Oct 28, 2017 22:09
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SaintFu posted:I think most people, for instance, identify episode 8 with Lynch, but I think it fits very well with what Frost was doing in the Secret History. I'd say episode 8 was the most Mark Frosty episode in terms of what it contained, although Lynch went to town on the execution. Frost seems far more interested in there being a mystical backdrop to the whole thing, and in making sense of it. We'll never know how things were carved up exactly, but it's a pretty safe guess that Lynch came up with the Red Room as an image for a scene, and Frost created the Black Lodge from it.
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Oct 29, 2017 00:54
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Volte posted:Frost wasn't involved in FWWM at all, so I would argue that the mythology aspect is probably Lynch's creation, unless you consider the dubious connections to the occult or numerology or whatever part of the mythology. Not to say that Lynch didn't build on things that Frost conceived (or that Frost didn't build on things that Lynch conceived) but if Twin Peaks without Lynch is late Season 2 and Twin Peaks without Frost is FWWM, I know which one I'd prefer. Both of those things did poorly from a critical and business standpoint, although FWWM is viewed much more positively now. Twin Peaks is better when both are involved.
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Oct 29, 2017 01:45
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Does anyone have a look to anything notable that came from that Final Dossier book?
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Oct 29, 2017 02:01
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Some interesting insights from Mark Frost from a panel he was on: https://twitter.com/keithgow/status/924564057302089728
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Oct 29, 2017 18:16
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Slum Village posted:Some interesting insights from Mark Frost from a panel he was on: https://twitter.com/keithgow/status/924564057302089728 In my fantasy world, Lynch and Frost recorded themselves screening the original series and released it as a commentary.
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Oct 29, 2017 18:23
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HerzogZwo posted:The book supposedly gives Annie some closure. Wish they could have worked it into the show though. IIRC Heather Graham said she would have loved to have been involved but was never contacted about it, did everyone hate her or was she really difficult to work with or something?
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Oct 29, 2017 19:04
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just watched mulholland drive, film owns
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Oct 29, 2017 19:21
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Yeah, I really kept hoping she’d show up at some point. I think Heather would have made it a lot better. I don’t know; I hated FWWM at first. It took several watches to really start to like it. Maybe the same is true of season three. I just can’t stand that there were several huge cliffhangers. Mark Frost has just now started talking about how he'd like to do a season four but it’s really up to Showtime right now. I really need that to happen in order to fully make sense of season three. Season three is now up for preorder on Amazon. Six hours of special features, including several features that the blu-ray set will have that the DVD set won’t.
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Oct 29, 2017 19:24
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Slum Village posted:Some interesting insights from Mark Frost from a panel he was on: https://twitter.com/keithgow/status/924564057302089728 Man that comment about it being obvious who the girl is in E8 is annoying
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Oct 29, 2017 20:26
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Pre-order for The Return on Blu-Ray's up on Amazon.
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Oct 29, 2017 21:07
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I love how they only had to add one letter to the title 
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Oct 29, 2017 21:13
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That's either the comfiest porno ever made or the scariest porno ever made.
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Oct 29, 2017 21:46
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Mr. Grumpybones posted:Man that comment about it being obvious who the girl is in E8 is annoying I mean it's pretty generally agreed that she's Sarah Palmer, right?
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Oct 29, 2017 22:11
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Raxivace posted:That's either the comfiest porno ever made or the scariest porno ever made. Two men having gay sex in a crowded room with an overlay of one of the men having sex looking horrified. "We are living in a porn parody of a dream."
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Oct 30, 2017 20:05
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Other mysteries I want season four to give me the answers to: Was Becky actually killed? What happened to Gersten? Where’s Annie, dammit?
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Oct 30, 2017 20:29
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Reminder: The blu-rays will have extra special features that the DVDs won’t.
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yeah if its 'obvious' its gotta be sarah
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