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sirtommygunn
Mar 7, 2013



Don't give him credit for including O'Reilly, it's just a way of being able to say "I'm able to acknowledge bad people on both sides, unlike those partisan liberals" as a deflection for when you question why the most notable figure in politics today isn't included.

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Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

sirtommygunn posted:

Don't give him credit for including O'Reilly, it's just a way of being able to say "I'm able to acknowledge bad people on both sides, unlike those partisan liberals" as a deflection for when you question why the most notable figure in politics today isn't included.

Gotcha,

better then 90% of cartoonists is still not 'good'.

That's why I'm looking at Bill Clinton. Consensual blowjob vs grab them by the pussy. HMMM who should by my pig?

Axe-man
Apr 16, 2005

The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.
Clapping Larry

Bombadilillo posted:

On the other hand, referencing Weinstien and Orielly in the same cartoon puts him about 90% of the other cartoonmans.

Side note, was Slick Willy not having consensual times?

There were a few women that came forward saying that he solicited sexual stuff from them, but I know at least one recanted later, and I remember it being more political.

gowb
Apr 14, 2005

Zemyla
Aug 6, 2008

I'll take her off your hands. Pleasure doing business with you!

Bombadilillo posted:

On the other hand, referencing Weinstien and Orielly in the same cartoon puts him about 90% of the other cartoonmans.

Side note, was Slick Willy not having consensual times?

Well, there is an argument that the power imbalance between President Clinton and any of the people working at the White House makes the notion of the sex being consensual murky and difficult to determine at best.

However, that's not the argument the right wing wants to have. Their notion is: All sex a woman has with a white Republican male is consensual, no matter what the circumstances. All sex a woman has with any other male is rape, no matter what the circumstances.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

I mean really when you come down to it, is sex with the president of the United States ever consensual? Talk about a power imbalance

Axe-man
Apr 16, 2005

The product of hundreds of hours of scientific investigation and research.

The perfect meatball.
Clapping Larry

Zemyla posted:

Well, there is an argument that the power imbalance between President Clinton and any of the people working at the White House makes the notion of the sex being consensual murky and difficult to determine at best.

However, that's not the argument the right wing wants to have. Their notion is: All sex a woman has with a white Republican male is consensual, no matter what the circumstances. All sex a woman has with any other male is rape, no matter what the circumstances.

I think it extends even beyond just party lines on that to A manly man who is a REAL man means that a woman always consents. Once again that is used to make the republicans the manly men defending the ways that REAL men are supposed to act. While liberals are limp wristed with manbuns and a potbelly.

FreeKillB
May 13, 2009

Bombadilillo posted:

Side note, was Slick Willy not having consensual times?
Accusations run the whole gamut: Paula Jones alleged sexual harassment, Kathleen Willey alleged sexual assault, and Juanita Broaddrick alleged rape. There are enough accusations that it would be unwise to dismiss them wholly, but the really serious ones seem to have pretty big inconsistencies. Clinton is in the rare situation where it's plausible that women could plausibly be incentivized to make false accusations. I would say in this case that it is hard to dismiss either possibility out of hand.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

which one's Trump? which one represents the Democrats? goddammit I need labels, people

Trogdos!
Jul 11, 2009

A DRAGON POKEMAN
well technically a water/flying type

Garrison posted:

Hillary is going down in flames and it’s about time.

We now have proof that the ‘Russian collusion’ narrative was merely an invention concocted by Hillary and Podesta. It was designed to drive President Trump out from office and the corrupt corporate media was all too eager to repeat the lie. For eight long months we’ve had to endure fake news and faux outrage by the legacy media—even though they could prove nothing. So much for journalistic integrity.

The actual Russian collusion occurred in the Clinton camp. The Clinton Foundation received millions of dollars from Russia in exchange for 20 percent of America’s uranium in the Uranium One deal. Bill Clinton also received a kickback from Putin in the form of an outrageous $500,000 speaking fee. Obama did nothing to stop it and endorsed it.

Hillary and the DNC also paid millions of dollars for a Russian dossier on Trump. The exposé was nothing but outrageous lies, but John McCain plus also the FBI got involved and became complicit.

Everyone needs to be held accountable because the report has proven to be completely false. That didn’t stop the mainstream media. They trumpeted it anyway. Will their sour notes finally end? Will the MSM apologize to Trump? Not likely.

Hillary tried to steal the election—not Trump. She broke the law over and over again and has arrogantly eluded justice for far too long. Lock her up!

—Ben Garrison

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

Will Ben ever get to a point when he realizes Hillary Clinton isn't actually going to jail?

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009

garrison:

oh the sean hannity!

wait will people get this reference?

oh the humanity!

perfect.

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


Clinton has literally been investigated by the right wing media non-stop for nearly 30 years--without a single indictment much less a conviction--and he's talking about 8 months.

Kaza42
Oct 3, 2013

Blood and Souls and all that
Wait, when was the russia dossier conclusively proven false? I know a lot of the stuff was somewhat unsubstantiated, but was there a recent revelation that proved it was wrong?

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Kaza42 posted:

Wait, when was the russia dossier conclusively proven false? I know a lot of the stuff was somewhat unsubstantiated, but was there a recent revelation that proved it was wrong?

The Steele Dossier was in part funded as oppo research by the Clinton campaign and the DNC. This naturally means it it entire false.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

fool_of_sound posted:

The Steele Dossier was in part funded as oppo research by the Clinton campaign and the DNC. This naturally means it it entire false.

Also ignore the bit where it was first funded by Republicans before he won the primary. Thats fake news. Please pay more attention to Hillary's Illuminati earrings.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

FreeKillB posted:

Accusations run the whole gamut: Paula Jones alleged sexual harassment, Kathleen Willey alleged sexual assault, and Juanita Broaddrick alleged rape. There are enough accusations that it would be unwise to dismiss them wholly, but the really serious ones seem to have pretty big inconsistencies. Clinton is in the rare situation where it's plausible that women could plausibly be incentivized to make false accusations. I would say in this case that it is hard to dismiss either possibility out of hand.
As someone who was far too young to know anything back then, all I know is that rear end in a top hat Ken Starr wasn't willing to bring Juanita Broaddrick's testimony in at any point in the entire sordid Presidential affair. Given how motivated he seemed to find literally anything real... well. I don't know if Bill did other things to other people, but I think what he did to Juanita is probably not what she said. Which doesn't mean it's nothing! But.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
This just in: presidential candidate funds opposition research

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

I feel like "White Grievance" is giving it too much legitimacy.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Duke Igthorn posted:

My idiot boss, who voted for Trump and has recently REALLY gotten into Bitcoin ('cause, like, nobody CONTROLS bitcoin, so the price can only go up!) says that it's ok that this happened because "it's not like you can bankrupt a bank anyway" so what's the point of suing them anyway?

Yes, sure, a word that literally means "broken bank" cannot be applied to a bank. Just ask the Lehman Brothers. Or, like, this ridiculously long Wikipedia page that's only for the USA and only since 2008. Granted they haven't all technically filed for bankruptcy, if your idiot boss is a nitpicker.

FreeKillB posted:

Accusations run the whole gamut: Paula Jones alleged sexual harassment, Kathleen Willey alleged sexual assault, and Juanita Broaddrick alleged rape. There are enough accusations that it would be unwise to dismiss them wholly, but the really serious ones seem to have pretty big inconsistencies. Clinton is in the rare situation where it's plausible that women could plausibly be incentivized to make false accusations. I would say in this case that it is hard to dismiss either possibility out of hand.

I'm just going to trust in the wisdom of Kenneth Starr that their cases would only have been a waste of time in the Republicans' Holy Quest To Impeach Clinton No Matter How.

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Ben Jennings on the NHS plan to rent spare rooms – Airbnb-style scheme to accommodate patients recovering from surgery raises fears of abuse and poor care"

Telegraph:

Britain 'unable to conduct major amphibious operations' under cost-cutting plans to sell off warships

Independent:

JFK files: The key points about the 1963 assassination

Times:

Supersonic Bloodhound car in 200mph tests ahead of land speed record attempt

Evening Standard:

Spanish PM dissolves Catalan parliament and calls fresh elections

Mail:
Mac on... NHS renting rooms to ease bed blocking

'I thought you'd be pleased. We are getting £1,000 a month!'

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

:australia:

Kudelka:


Pope:


Rowe:


The high court ruling on the citizenship issue was that five members of parliament were ineligible to have been elected, including Barnaby Joyce, deputy PM and leader of the National Party. The other four were Senator Fiona Nash, Senator Larissa Waters, Senator Scott Ludlam, and Senator Malcolm-Ieuan: Roberts., the living soul.

Barnaby Joyce will be running in a by-election, and until then the government no longer has its majority in the lower house.

King Possum III
Feb 15, 2016

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wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

DACK FAYDEN posted:

As someone who was far too young to know anything back then, all I know is that rear end in a top hat Ken Starr wasn't willing to bring Juanita Broaddrick's testimony in at any point in the entire sordid Presidential affair. Given how motivated he seemed to find literally anything real... well. I don't know if Bill did other things to other people, but I think what he did to Juanita is probably not what she said. Which doesn't mean it's nothing! But.

I really dislike this talking point a lot. Ken Starr probably didn't raise the Juanita case because he knew his audience, which was still in the 90s.

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

borshalloween.jpg

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mueller's not even the one behind the dossier, you massive dumbass. He has nothing to do with it beyond looking into it after the fact like everyone else.

Seriously, all the right-wing cartoons on the subject have been really stupid, but this one doesn't even have the basic facts right.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

FreeKillB posted:

Accusations run the whole gamut: Paula Jones alleged sexual harassment, Kathleen Willey alleged sexual assault, and Juanita Broaddrick alleged rape. There are enough accusations that it would be unwise to dismiss them wholly, but the really serious ones seem to have pretty big inconsistencies. Clinton is in the rare situation where it's plausible that women could plausibly be incentivized to make false accusations. I would say in this case that it is hard to dismiss either possibility out of hand.

Much of the left would happily tar Bill Clinton as a sexual predator if the right would do the same to literally anyone on their side with the same or worse evidence of it. But it's all just such a disingenuous line of bullshit that amounts to nothing more than "no, you!" that no one who cares really gives a gently caress.

Also, the problem with Juanita's claim was by the time Ken Star was sniffing around, she'd signed an affidavit saying it never happened. Considering the history of trying to hold men, especially powerful men, accountable for their sexual malfeasance, that's not enough to rule it out for me, but I'm not going to blame the court for taking it at face value.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Roland Jones posted:

Mueller's not even the one behind the dossier, you massive dumbass. He has nothing to do with it beyond looking into it after the fact like everyone else.

Seriously, all the right-wing cartoons on the subject have been really stupid, but this one doesn't even have the basic facts right.

Mueller is a white Republican authority figure so they can't quite bring themselves to say mean things about him. Instead Hillary is their convenient scapegoat.

Edit: Also, Juanita Brodderick's claim is largely plausible in my opinion, regardless of her present political leanings. I think that the body of evidence for Bill Clinton being a sexual predator is large, and he fits neatly into a broader discussion of powerful, mostly white men abusing their privilege to take advantage of women.

Right-wingers just want an excuse to deflect, however.

FreeKillB
May 13, 2009

Roland Jones posted:

Seriously, all the right-wing cartoons on the subject have been really stupid, but this one doesn't even have the basic facts right.
It's almost as if everything spewed by the right-wing noise machine on this topic in the past week was done in bad faith, to muddy the waters so that they could claim that the whole Russia probe is based on nothing, rather than a careful attempt to examine the available evidence and actually inform their audience.

e: given that Mueller has apparently already started filing charges, it's pretty plausible that all of this is to justify Mueller's firing by Trump.

FreeKillB fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Oct 28, 2017

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/924045831874981888

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Duke Igthorn posted:

My idiot boss, who voted for Trump and has recently REALLY gotten into Bitcoin ('cause, like, nobody CONTROLS bitcoin, so the price can only go up!) says that it's ok that this happened because "it's not like you can bankrupt a bank anyway" so what's the point of suing them anyway?

Kill you're boss

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I don't see how Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign can recover after this guys.

Jollity Farm
Apr 23, 2010

Avenging_Mikon posted:

I feel like "White Grievance" is giving it too much legitimacy.

It may not have said "grievance" in the first draft. The newspaper he's published in might want to avoid angry Nazi responses.

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


Man, even Hannity's fans draw him as an unlikeably smug gently caress.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Speaking which, this is pretty much all the guy has done since the inauguration. Warning for those who appreciation decent meter and adherence to a rhyme scheme.

:mrapig: posted:

SJWs!
They fought the leftists, they served the plutocrats,
Exiled the socialists, kissed the asses of Democrats.
They indoctrinated the kids in their universities,
Filling their heads with post-modern perversities.

They tore the reason out of academia, drove all the professors bats,
Threw away their mortar boards, replaced them with pussy hats.
And tweeted their outrage late into the night,
Virtue signaling with all their righteous might!

They redefined and redefined, then redefined some more,
Till X was Y, and none could tell the ceiling from the floor.
Till assent was dissent, and reality was thoroughly bent.
Till words were violence, till free speech was silence.
Till virtue was vice, and cats were mice.

They corrupted the judges and polluted the sports,
And were easily triggered, but only by others’ faults.
In false virtue they were clad, as they confused good with bad,
Black with white, and sanity with an unhealthy dose of mad.
They sipped their lattes, they preened their blue hair.
And if Western civilization goes to hell?
Well, it’s not as if they care!

Jabberlock
Nov 29, 2014




British cartoons get overlooked in this thread a lot, but I though this one was hilariously tasteless. Thank god a Brit drew it!

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


I'm guessing at least one political cartoonist is going to mangle this into a metaphor.

https://twitter.com/GalenKVEW/status/924102743265964032

BlueBlazer
Apr 1, 2010

Jonas Albrecht posted:

I'm guessing at least one political cartoonist is going to mangle this into a metaphor.

https://twitter.com/GalenKVEW/status/924102743265964032

If a poli-cartoon artist does not I'm going to be super disappointed in the world.

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Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Jonas Albrecht posted:

I'm guessing at least one political cartoonist is going to mangle this into a metaphor.

https://twitter.com/GalenKVEW/status/924102743265964032

Aw, those big pumpkins didn't look very tasty. They must have been disappointed.

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