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Samurai Sanders posted:I never knew wtf was up with that comic. My eyes always just kind of went over it as a kid. It's still going and is now about Mongols or something? I think that's Jack Black, actually
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Cloud Potato posted:
We should come up with a concrete definition for this sort of assholery, perhaps Thoughts-and-Prayers (TP) troll?
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This is how far the right has gone. It's hard for me to even mentally grasp that this is how many think. They're Nazis. The whole world fought a war about this.
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I always thought that Americans are really quick to jokingly label people as Nazis for silly things like obsession with grammar, I didn't forsee this criticism=The Real Nazis(tm) trend however.
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Johnny Walker posted:This is how far the right has gone. It's hard for me to even mentally grasp that this is how many think. They're Nazis. The whole world fought a war about this. Edit: or maybe that’s a completely normal kind of Holocaust denial, I wouldn’t know. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Oct 29, 2017 |
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Kinda, some children's books in Germany make it seem like the Nazis were a tiny minority of the population. And many people who grew up in the 50's and 60's only learned about how bad it really was when they started consuming non German media.
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Horrible Lurkbeast posted:Kinda, some children's books in Germany make it seem like the Nazis were a tiny minority of the population.
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I can't remember the article, the notion it talked about was "some assholes seized control of the government" which is true but simplistic.
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Johnny Walker posted:This is how far the right has gone. It's hard for me to even mentally grasp that this is how many think. They're Nazis. The whole world fought a war about this. My grandpa use to talk about shooting nazis now we can't even punch them. This is the worst future.
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Horrible Lurkbeast posted:I can't remember the article, the notion it talked about was "some assholes seized control of the government" which is true but simplistic.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I never knew wtf was up with that comic. My eyes always just kind of went over it as a kid. It's still going and is now about Mongols or something? It's one of the best comic strips still running. Not sure why it's posted here though.
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That's a real thing called false dawn or drinker's dawn which happens either when the booze in your system has worn off enough that it no longer keeps you asleep or you wake up still drunk because your body needs hydration. You're not actually rested but in the first case you can't get back to sleep and the second case you'll feel manic till the next day drunk wears off, after which you'll crash. It's the bane of any alcoholic's existence, that and going through your texts from the previous night.
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's one of the best comic strips still running. Val pretty often has subtle political digs (like the last two that I posted) and people like it, so why not?
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Samurai Sanders posted:So the argument is like whoops! Everyone was looking the other way at the same time and then they controlled the country? The narrative that emerged from the war generation was, unsurprisingly, that true believer Nazis were a small minority that seized control of the country in some illegitimate fashion (usually this is placed at/around the Reichstag fire and Enabling Act) and then controlled the rest through a sinister mix of deception and coercion, and that the overwhelming majority of Germans were helpless to do anything against the terror regime which they just hated guys honest but couldn't do anything against and also never heard anything about those resettlement actions or ever wondered where the Goldbaums down the lane had gotten off to. In this reimagining, the guilt and blame for National Socialism is cast onto the SS and other party diehards, and everyone else gets to pretend they were victims of the regime and subsequent war, which the Austrians took to its logical extreme when the Allies did them the unasked-for and undeserved favor of declaring Austria as one of Nazism's first victims. This narrative is, of course, self-exculpating bullshit of the highest order that was first challenged during the generational clashes of the 1960s, and more comprehensively during the Wehrmachtsausstellung in the 90s, but still survives here and there. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Oct 29, 2017 |
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Thank you that is a great summary. Also thank you St. Sputnik for ye harald. E: Also on subject of the mood in wartime Germany, I'd like to recommend the book Alone in berlin to anyone who hadn't read it yet. By popular demand fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Oct 29, 2017 |
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gowb posted:Even the KKK aren't beyond compassion. http://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544861933/how-one-man-convinced-200-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes It's a near-legendary exception at this point and people use it as proof that all you need to do is be nice to nazis and they'll stop being nazis. They're just waiting for someone to show them the light! It could be you! Which some spin even further into it being the duty of any minority dealing with extremists to put themselves in harm's way and attempt to convert them, personally.
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The Article posted:He made the statement, which I'd heard before, "Well we all know that all black people have within them a gene that makes them violent." I turned to him and I'm driving and I said, "Wait a minute. I'm as black as anybody you've ever seen. I have never done a carjacking or a driveby, how do you explain that?" He didn't even pause to think about it. He said, "Your gene is latent. It hasn't come out yet." There's a big difference between loving your brother man and accepting every stupid thing he believes.
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Horrible Lurkbeast posted:There's a big difference between loving your brother man and accepting every stupid thing he believes. Gary Ridgeway, The Grim Sleeper, The Beltway Sniper, The Zebra Killings. That’s off the top of my head. I’m not a fan of fighting idiocy with idiocy.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Gary Ridgeway, The Grim Sleeper, The Beltway Sniper, The Zebra Killings. That’s off the top of my head. How do you feel about people who miss the point?
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Gum posted:How do you feel about people who miss the point? 
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Gum posted:How do you feel about people who miss the point? Those people are terrible.
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gowb posted:Val pretty often has subtle political digs (like the last two that I posted) and people like it, so why not? Zelda really bothers people in this thread.
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Alhazred posted:Zelda really bothers people in this thread. Not enough blatant labels for some of the people in this thread
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I too like the politics of a hangover. What does the hangover represent? The exhaustion from our government?
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Hihohe posted:I too like the politics of a hangover. What does the hangover represent? The exhaustion from our government? 50% of comics posted in this thread are non-political grandpa crying about today's kids and their dumb gay lives. Zelda is a comic about those dumb gay lives. It deserves to be here.
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Hihohe posted:if you say so. Edit: not that I'm questioning the Prince Val comic, gowb, you do you. Someone (not me) should post the Icelandic democracy storyline.
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I thought the prince val comic was a wrong thread post. We got a lot of comic threads here on SA. Zelda is welcome here as long as it says something about culture or politics." Kids these days" old man comics technically count and get posted because we like to seethe and berate them. Zelda deserves better than that. Anyway thats just what I think, im not a mod or whatever. I did like that Zelda comic. Hihohe fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Oct 29, 2017 |
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This has been making the rounds and I love it https://youtu.be/biehbIPqV8c
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TORILLA TAVATAAN!!! 
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Hihohe posted:This has been making the rounds and I love it Ivanka should've been arrested too.
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Hihohe posted:This has been making the rounds and I love it That was wonderful. What movie is it from?
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I think its from Daredevil on Netflix
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