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Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Rastor posted:

Check out some nVidia research's newest work on AI generation of images:

https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/30/neural-network-nvidia-images-celebs/

Idea for a service:


1)
The customer write a simple script, that the service enhance. Then the customer pick his favorite actors, or generate new ones on the fly.
The algorithm then generate the movie using the script and the selected / generated actors.

You could even select a director, so if you choose Alfred Hitchcock or Terence Malick, is filmed with that quality and feel, so it looks like one of his movies.

2)
You feed a algorithm with all the information available about your deceased husband. The algorithm generate video diaries, with references to current news, with the likelihood of your dead husband, look & feel.

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mcstanb
Mar 21, 2011

Tei posted:



2)
You feed a algorithm with all the information available about your deceased husband. The algorithm generate video diaries, with references to current news, with the likelihood of your dead husband, look & feel.

That is basically the plot of a Black Mirror episode.

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

mcstanb posted:

That is basically the plot of a Black Mirror episode.

It was also the plot of a Max Headroom episode, although in that episode the company was scamming people by claiming it had actually uploaded their loved ones

BlueberryCanary
Mar 18, 2016

Tei posted:

Idea for a service:


1)
The customer write a simple script, that the service enhance. Then the customer pick his favorite actors, or generate new ones on the fly.
The algorithm then generate the movie using the script and the selected / generated actors.

You could even select a director, so if you choose Alfred Hitchcock or Terence Malick, is filmed with that quality and feel, so it looks like one of his movies.

2)
You feed a algorithm with all the information available about your deceased husband. The algorithm generate video diaries, with references to current news, with the likelihood of your dead husband, look & feel.

Did you steal this idea from Alan Resnick?

Tei
Feb 19, 2011


Is a old concern of hollywood that technology may one day make their whole business model moot point. Is not new at all, I remember reading novels with that has argument from the 60 and 70's.

I don't think is going to happen... that way. What can happen is that we start mixing reality with fiction a lot more with enhanced reality technologies. Is going to be much more complicate than simply procedurally generating movies.

Tei fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Oct 30, 2017

ElCondemn
Aug 7, 2005


Rastor posted:

Check out some nVidia research's newest work on AI generation of images:

https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/30/neural-network-nvidia-images-celebs/

I just watched this computerphile video about this topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw9r8CL98N0

If anyone's ever done any acid a lot of this will look very familiar, it makes me think that our brains work very much like this... like exactly like this...

Magius1337est
Sep 13, 2017

Chimichanga

Tei posted:

Idea for a service:


1)
The customer write a simple script, that the service enhance. Then the customer pick his favorite actors, or generate new ones on the fly.
The algorithm then generate the movie using the script and the selected / generated actors.

You could even select a director, so if you choose Alfred Hitchcock or Terence Malick, is filmed with that quality and feel, so it looks like one of his movies.

2)
You feed a algorithm with all the information available about your deceased husband. The algorithm generate video diaries, with references to current news, with the likelihood of your dead husband, look & feel.

They've basically already done it with music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va9Zt9HY-ik

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
You could also use it to make more believable false identities. I'm thinking more like twitter bots and poo poo but it might make things more complicated wrt identity fraud.

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.
Heres a good article about algorithmically generated youtube children's videos

https://twitter.com/max_read/status/927599849268269057

Paladin
Nov 26, 2004
You lost today, kid. But that doesn't mean you have to like it.


Dmitri-9 posted:

Heres a good article about algorithmically generated youtube children's videos

https://twitter.com/max_read/status/927599849268269057

Down the Rabbit Hole did a video on those. Creepy as heck.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It's basically Newgrounds but the whole world is watching it.

the old ceremony
Aug 1, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Dmitri-9 posted:

Heres a good article about algorithmically generated youtube children's videos

https://twitter.com/max_read/status/927599849268269057
the videos showcased in the article are all amazing and i'm proud to let my strong sons watch them. the author is a dweeb

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
Yeah my son has been watching some of those. Wife and I are concerned. A lot of the videos are just...weird, and disturbing in a way that is sometimes hard to put your finger on. And this is coming from a liberal guy who let his four year old play Overwatch.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
I hate the way that post is written, but the author is right that there’s something creepy and off about the way a lot of these videos are being produced.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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God, my neice watches these and they feel like god drat aliens made them or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9-CI2m-b44

Like there was one where it was listing types of monsters like frankenstein's and vampires and it listed yeast as a monster. It really feels like something not human made them and somehow got english speaking people to read them without accents word for word.

Ora Tzo
Feb 26, 2016

HEEEERES TONYYYY

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

God, my neice watches these and they feel like god drat aliens made them or something.

Well there was the one channel that was pretending to be well.. I wont spoil it for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B1sRPwK248

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Cicero posted:

Yeah my son has been watching some of those. Wife and I are concerned. A lot of the videos are just...weird, and disturbing in a way that is sometimes hard to put your finger on. And this is coming from a liberal guy who let his four year old play Overwatch.

You should probably switch to netflix kids before Hitler starts singing nursery rhymes to yours.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
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Toilet Rascal

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

and it listed yeast as a monster.


Yeast are cool in all the things that they can produce. Not only beer and bread, the staples of civilization, but also most of our sudafed now, and modified yeast will produce far more pharmaceuticals.

But we've seen what fungi can do to insects and fish. What if they only gave us bread and beer because it makes us slavishly breed more yeast? Come to the city nomad. Come to the city and reproduce. :spooky:

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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Buglord
This is the channel that I think actual literal computers make:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0WprIuTnHk

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

I would not swing around the normality bat, because for most of human story a 14 years old was a full adult. And "kids tales" where a genre with cannibalism, zoofilia and worse things.

We are not normal. Our civilization is not normal.

*watchs video*

What the hell??

Tei fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Nov 7, 2017

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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Buglord

Tei posted:

I would not swing around the normality bat, because for most of human story a 14 years old was a full adult. And "kids tales" where a genre with cannibalism, zoofilia and worse things.

We are not normal. Our civilization is not normal.

It's not that. Actual legitimate good children's show have violence and adult themes too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NljxtaJv-68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Q2d_Gs1GE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrlymHW0qU8

It's not the content itself that is disturbing, it's the weird unsettling inhuman feeling those videos have that are so creepy. Like a baby saying "no papa" a bunch of times then vomiting potato chips all over the ground. Or weird gifs of babies smileing as they get duct taped to a wall. Or a ghost story about a refrigerator that watches tv and has to pause the tv when it goes to the bathroom.

Owlofcreamcheese fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Nov 7, 2017

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
Yeah if it was just "violence and adult themes" like what you see in old Looney Tunes episodes nobody would care. It's more alien than that.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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Cicero posted:

Yeah if it was just "violence and adult themes" like what you see in old Looney Tunes episodes nobody would care. It's more alien than that.

It's like poems with rhymes that technically do rhyme but aren't things any english speaker would ever write combined with like exhaustive recombinations of really weird elements. Like needles that inject blue into a ball then a needle injects blue into a baby then a needle injects blue into a hammer then a ball puts blue into a needle then a ball puts blue into a hammer then a hammer knocks blue into a baby, etc until they have gone through every combination. And even the color choices don't seem right, like the undue weight on teaching cyan as a color.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

And even the color choices don't seem right, like the undue weight on teaching cyan as a color.
Cyan should be taught more. Like when kids are taught the seven classical colors of the visible spectrum, red orange yellow green blue indigo violet, there's confusion because we often think of unqualified 'blue' as something like X11 blue, rather than the sky blue/cyan area that Newton was thinking of. Which leads to confusion like 'do we really need blue, indigo, and violet? I don't see a color between the blue bit and the purple bit.' Which is because the blue bit is what Newton called indigo and the cyan bit they completely ignored was called blue.

So the classical colors as taught today should be 'red orange yellow green cyan blue violet'. Richard Of York Gave Cattle Bin Vain.

No idea why the algorithms are so hung up on cyan though.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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Buglord

Guavanaut posted:

Cyan should be taught more. Like when kids are taught the seven classical colors of the visible spectrum, red orange yellow green blue indigo violet, there's confusion because we often think of unqualified 'blue' as something like X11 blue, rather than the sky blue/cyan area that Newton was thinking of. Which leads to confusion like 'do we really need blue, indigo, and violet? I don't see a color between the blue bit and the purple bit.' Which is because the blue bit is what Newton called indigo and the cyan bit they completely ignored was called blue.


The rainbow has 7 colors to praise god, it's the same reason we have seven seas and seven continents and seven notes and like basically anything that is an infinite spectrum we decided there is "seven" of them.

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Guavanaut posted:

Cyan should be taught more. Like when kids are taught the seven classical colors of the visible spectrum, red orange yellow green blue indigo violet, there's confusion because we often think of unqualified 'blue' as something like X11 blue, rather than the sky blue/cyan area that Newton was thinking of. Which leads to confusion like 'do we really need blue, indigo, and violet? I don't see a color between the blue bit and the purple bit.' Which is because the blue bit is what Newton called indigo and the cyan bit they completely ignored was called blue.

So the classical colors as taught today should be 'red orange yellow green cyan blue violet'. Richard Of York Gave Cattle Bin Vain.

No idea why the algorithms are so hung up on cyan though.

Stuff like that happens when you learn English from a dictionary. Remember when Chinese furniture manufacturers were using racial slurs for color names.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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Toilet Rascal

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

The rainbow has 7 colors to praise god, it's the same reason we have seven seas and seven continents and seven notes and like basically anything that is an infinite spectrum we decided there is "seven" of them.
The rainbow has 7 colors because Newton had an occultist streak and thought it would be neat to match them up with the 7 musical notes and the 7 classical planets. What he was calling blue was qualitatively different to what most people think of blue now though, so it makes more sense to call it cyan instead of telling kids that blue means cyan and indigo means blue, but only for rainbows.

Gnossiennes
Jan 7, 2013


Loving chairs more every day!

Dmitri-9 posted:

Heres a good article about algorithmically generated youtube children's videos

https://twitter.com/max_read/status/927599849268269057

Similarly, in terms of unsettling exploitation by parents, the rise of unboxing videos leading to a toy made specifically for... unboxing videos.

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/927736713908277251

quote:

MGA is tapping into the frenzy by making it easier for children to make their own unboxing videos. The company is setting up bright pink recording booths in 13 U.S. cities, Toronto and London. The L.O.L.-branded booths, which come with a built-in claw machine and recording equipment, are part vending machine, part video studio. Shoppers can buy the L.O.L. Surprise, then sit down and film themselves opening it. Its message: You could "become the next viral sensation."

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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Buglord
unboxing itself seems not too bad. Blind bag kids stuff has been a thing forever. Your grandpa had baseball cards. I had Battle Beasts. blind bag toy gambling has just kinda always been a thing forever.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/7/16615290/waymo-self-driving-safety-driver-chandler-autonomous

quote:

Waymo, the autonomous vehicle division of Alphabet, Google’s parent company, reached an important milestone recently: since mid-October, the company has been operating its autonomous minivans on public roads in Arizona without a safety driver — or any human at all — behind the wheel. And starting very soon, the company plans to invite regular people for rides in these fully self-driving vehicles.

The news that Waymo’s vehicles have been on public roads with no human in the driver’s seat was announced today by the company’s CEO John Krafcik at a tech conference in Lisbon. The announcement comes on the heels of Waymo’s decision to invite a group of reporters to visit Castle, a 91-acre facility in California’s Central Valley that it has been using as a training course for its self-driving vehicles. At the time, Krafcik declined to provide an exact timetable as to when it would begin testing fully self-driving vehicles on public roads. Little did we know at the time, they were already doing it.
There's a bunch of caveats (the biggest of which is "a suburb of phoenix is self-driving car easy mode"), but still this is a significant step forward.

Cicero fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Nov 7, 2017

ElCondemn
Aug 7, 2005


Cicero posted:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/7/16615290/waymo-self-driving-safety-driver-chandler-autonomous

There's a bunch of other caveats, but still this is a significant step forward.

That’s so awesome, I can’t wait to see these on the road everywhere

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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Buglord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQbBpNLVQQM

Doctor Malaver
May 23, 2007

Ce qui s'est passé t'a rendu plus fort
On the topic of creepy videos, I don't agree with the author dismissing without hesitation human supervision. I bet a dozen curators working full time would make a difference. You don't need to ban 100% of creepy videos, you just need to ban and keep banning enough of them to make it unprofitable for producers. Or to make them raise the quality / reduce the creepiness of their work. A dozen wouldn't do? Then hire more and don't try telling us that you can't afford them.

It seems that we've yielded to algorithms and Big Software without a fight. Imagine if a TV station was producing stuff like that - they'd be shut down in a day. But since it's Youtube and it's a battle of their algorithms against other algorithms then we are made to believe that we are powerless.

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001


The sequence starting at 4:10 is truly something

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
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Buglord

Rastor posted:

The sequence starting at 4:10 is truly something

There is really literally hundreds of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXGao6evvBw

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

There is really literally hundreds of these

Stephen Hawking says A.I. could be 'worst event in the history of our civilization'
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/06/stephen-hawking-ai-could-be-worst-event-in-civilization.html

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.
How do they avoid copyright claims? Sometimes if someone sings a song too accurately on a stream they get a strike. I just watched the Joker impregnate Spiderman with a fidget spinner who then got an abortion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm4Algab_qk

Dmitri-9 fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Nov 7, 2017

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

that's some horse ebooks like poo poo

Baronash
Feb 29, 2012

So what do you want to be called?

What's the going rate for a million views? A grand or so, right?

If so, it amazes me that someone made a few thousand dollars off of this.

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Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Finnaly, the title of the thread deliver :D

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