Daztek posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeZtqoydXpc

peter gabriel posted:

If they posted here I would be scared and upset

Canine Blues Arooo posted:

I don't fault people for generally not understanding networking, but how does this guy think all these machines move data between them, and does he know that there are limits in both speed and quantity? Do these people think EVE implements time dilation because they think it's fun?

peter gabriel posted:

Chris 'rolling up his sleeves' and doing some coding is like that one boss who 'kept his hand in' by loving everything up once every 6 months

peter gabriel posted:

Chris 'rolling up his sleeves' and doing some coding is like that one boss who 'kept his hand in' by loving everything up once every 6 months

big nipples big life posted:

Even when not time dilated Eve has a tick rate of 1, anything less than 30 in a shooter is awful and even 30 is still pretty bad and leads to bad hit registration.

Golli posted:

But this is good for emergent gameplay....

Remember when you were a kid playing good guys vs other good guys:
"I hit you!"
"Nuh uh. You missed. I hit you first!"
"Nuh uh."

"MOOOM Timmy isn't playing fair!"

peter gabriel posted:

Chris 'rolling up his sleeves' and doing some coding is like that one boss who 'kept his hand in' by loving everything up once every 6 months

Beet Wagon posted:

I'm the in-game independent forensics analyst/referee

Beet Wagon posted:

Would you be shocked to learn it's literally both of those things?

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Nope, and I hope there's an interesting mechanical reason for the 2-inch barrel that's going to snipe people from a km out when hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Beet Wagon posted:

It's hilarious because at any given time the idea of Chris "coding into the morning hours" is equal parts completely unlikely to have happened at all and completely likely to be the reason everything is hosed up with feature X

Mirificus posted:

Redundant posted:

I always find it weird when people revel in their unpleasantness like it's some kind of badge of honour.

Loxbourne posted:

Poor Cymelion. He pledges so hard, he posts so many sick owns, he rants and raves and rages against the Filthy Smart, and yet he is still unblessed by the Divine Hand of Roberts.

Yet somehow he keeps the faith, hoping against hope that he is Job in the wilderness and one day that coveted Evocati email lands in his inbox. Whereupon we known drat well he'd immediately proclaim it from every rooftop just to lord it over his former peers.

FMguru posted:

Someone really needs to gin up a fake Evocati invitation (sent from a legit-looking email address) just to gaslight him.

thatguy posted:

I don't have any mirrors.

CaptainPsyko posted:

fritzgryphon posted:

That's actually a really exciting idea. Basically an octree of servers where space is subdivided into cells with a max player count. When a cell has too many players, it is subdivided into smaller cells, each is a new server. Players connect to whatever server is controlling the cell they occupy, and they interact with whatever other players are in it.

-Two players in different cells could actually be very close to each other, if they are near the same border. This might be resolved if players were sending their updates to their server-cell, and all adjacent ones (total of 9). Likely the player would only communicate with a single master server, which would in turn communicate with the 9 cells.

- Even if space is subdivided, it doesn't prevent a large number of players from congregating in a small space. In fact, this will be the rule, as players will clump around jump gateways and stations, hang out with their org, or deliberately choreograph the biggest space battles evar. The subdivided cells would get so tiny that you're only 'see' a few hundred meters (an Idris 1km away wouldn't be in any of your adjacent cells, so you wouldn't see it). There would need to be a way to get some information about ships outside of your cells, even if it's just a position and ship type, to populate all the blips on your sensor screen. Also, in a busy place ships would constantly spawn and despawn as they enter or leave your cells, with a big initialization hit per spawn.

- All this constant connecting, disconnecting, spawning, initializing needs to happen in a way that creates no lag spikes, stutters, framerate drops or physics glitches (to say nothing of disconnects or crashes). It needs to work perfectly, all the time, regardless of internet connection speeds or player's geographical locations. The combat is fluid, and there are harsh penalties for losing your ship or dying. An untimely lag spike could clip two capital ships into each other to vanish in a flurry of debris and two dozen angry spacewalkers, instantly wiping out thousands of man hours of grinding for credits, or even real cash.



It sounds so ridiculous and so goddamn beautiful. This has to be made.

quote:

This was a truly massive battle -- probably the only one World of Warcraft will ever see. Why will we never see one again? Well, because they break everything. We're not just talking server crashes (though that certainly did happen). We're talking things breaking. There was horrendous lag, hour-long queues to get onto servers, servers constantly losing peoples' locations upon death

FMguru posted:

Someone really needs to gin up a fake Evocati invitation (sent from a legit-looking email address) just to gaslight him.

Thoatse posted:

https://i.imgur.com/0IsC3qs.gifv

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/TheRealGremlich/status/924804907999342592

fritzgryphon posted:

I don't know anything about this, but some challenges come to mind. Maybe there are solutions to them?
[...]
It sounds so ridiculous and so goddamn beautiful. This has to be made.

Canine Blues Arooo posted:

Also, the top half of that post describes WoW's cross-realm phasing tech. Have fun implementing that in an environment with physics that affect gameplay.

G0RF posted:

Me too. Lazrin and MOMA are valuable thread members, and despite the fact that Lazrin’s first series of posts were a non-stop textual machine gunning of me, I’ve always found him a fun voice.

The CitCon demo has mobilized at least some of the Zealots and Evangelists to some gloating on Reddit and beyond. All we’ve seen so far is SD’s Parody, which only us dumbasses fell for...

I really was expecting some flyby thread gloating though, because as bereft of actual gameplay as the CitCon demo was, it was in many respects pretty majestic visually. It’s a given that the whole thing was, like the Sandworm demo, cooked up by Chris in another “I just want to sell the narrative” fever dreams. This time the narrative was of staggering scale that “I’m pretty sure you won’t see in any other games.”

In short, it was another “suck it Braben” volley in the Frenemy Wars, along with being another Roberts-To-The-Devs mandated “alright guys we need to change the narrative ASAP let’s cook up a mindblower to get the faithful reenergized” moment. Like the Sandworm, or the Hamill “meet the Old Man” teaser, or Forest’s “check out the female models we’re about to add” clip from ATV, or the “look at OUR character creator tech” from a bit ago, or Chris Oliva’s Jumpgate Wormhole navigation clips from years back...

Skeptics have seen this movie before and know how it ends - with the movie never quite surviving contact with the codebase and making it to the game intact... but the Zealots are mostly paying to watch the movie and don’t care if/when it ever makes it in game. So they’re happy again and ready to pound their moobs and cry victory over the doubters...

To every thing turn, turn, turn...

D_Smart posted:

I've told you guys over and over again that these are just standard CryEngine levels, stitched together with other levels to give the impression of size and scale.

25km up isn't space. And it's not orbit. It's still within the atmosphere (if we're comparing to Earth)

Don't get wrong, I think this is fine for the game; but it just kills Shitizens dreams by dousing them in flames, even as they're going through REM.

ps: This poo poo will never be in the game. I've played Evocati 3.0 and even with the moon, it's crap, performance is poo poo, and....well, just wait.

SomethingJones posted:

My takeaway is that these guys wanted to make a really interesting game but were scuppered by upper management and Disney execs second guessing everything from art direction to gameplay to level design.

ManofManyAliases posted:

I get that you are doing this for the lols, and that you'd love to evoke anger (or whatever) from r/ds because that is now your daily medicine, but do you actually believe that these are stitched together maps? And, if so, how would you go about proving your theory?

ManofManyAliases posted:

I saw it as a more mature presentation than those past. There weren't any large, technical glitches (save for a little bit of stuttering here or there due to who know what) and Roberts learned (for the most part) to quit promising the world and only deliver little, but show big. I feel CIG has taken a step back to fine tune and hone foundation work and will only release updates when they are in a state that can be tested and made public not to withstand ridicule, but because they're ready for public consumption. Notice I didn't come back to gloat or all over you guys. There was progress, albeit slower than wanted. It appears, however, that what was shown was the tip of an iceberg that remains shrouded in the mystery of game development. Comparatively, communication still remains more open and public than pretty much any other title I've seen - and I'm glad of it.

ManofManyAliases posted:

I get that you are doing this for the lols, and that you'd love to evoke anger (or whatever) from r/ds because that is now your daily medicine, but do you actually believe that these are stitched together maps? And, if so, how would you go about proving your theory?