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That Detroit trailer was super hosed up. Choose your own adventure child abuse edition. At least we know Cage will handle the material sensitively lol
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Leyburn posted:That Detroit trailer was super hosed up. Choose your own adventure child abuse edition. David Cage really wants to work in Hollywood
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Oct 30, 2017 21:30
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That Last of Us 2 stuff was kid's gloves compared to what I've seen in Wolfenstein. That said, it was kind of an exploitative thing to use for marketing material. Shock value for the sake of shock.
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Oct 30, 2017 21:30
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Jimbot posted:That Last of Us 2 stuff was kid's gloves compared to what I've seen in Wolfenstein. That said, it was kind of an exploitative thing to use for marketing material. Shock value for the sake of shock. Not sure what can make hammering a crying girl's arm "kid's gloves" material.
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Oct 30, 2017 21:34
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Jimbot posted:That Last of Us 2 stuff was kid's gloves compared to what I've seen in Wolfenstein. I did like how the Wolfenstein villain is established by killing your beloved commander after making fun of her disabilities, removing your friend's arm with a fire ax, and fat-shaming her daughter all within the same five-minute cutscene. OK, she's evil, I agree, you can stop now, let me get to the shooting already.
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Oct 30, 2017 21:35
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Arist posted:Assuming they're 100% wrong and unable to do anything they say, I think that's actually kind of a problem that makes me like the game less, not because I want them to be right but because it makes the situation way simpler and less interesting. They should probably have addressed some of the specifics of their plan in the game, though. I'm not sure anyone cares if you like the game less, mate, and yes you are wrong.
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Oct 30, 2017 21:39
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:I'm not sure anyone cares if you like the game less, mate, and yes you are wrong. Why are you such a twat?
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Oct 30, 2017 21:41
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Wolfenstien is really violent but the campiness of it makes it seem a lot milder than the TLOU 2 trailer to me. The trailer didn't really affect my interest either way. It was good but sort of a weird thing to use for marketing material.
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Oct 30, 2017 21:42
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It's a PS4 thread tradition
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I still don't like the very idea of a Last of Us sequel, since Joel and Ellie's story is told and there's no point doing 'something else with the setting' when the setting is such a nonentity. If you want something else with the setting there's literally every other post-apoc zombie story ever made.veni veni veni posted:I personally think the point of that scenario was that there wasn't really a right or wrong. it was more us vs them. This is it, really. The penultimate section of the game is deliberately ambiguous, presenting the player with an extreme event which demands a moral judgement but doesn't make what that judgement should be totally obvious. So obviously it's fine to make that judgement one way or another in line with your moral framework, but the readings that think Joel is exonerated straightforwardly from the text kind of end up saying Naughty Dog just failed at something they were clearly attempting to do. Which maybe they did, but I certainly didn't come away with that reading. I never found the tape that supposedly makes the situation unambiguous, but if so it was a mistake on ND's part.
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Oct 30, 2017 21:43
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Wolfenstein is definitely a "violence for the sake of violence" game, and I didn't really like that part of it. TLOU was very explicit about "the world is a horrible place" as a story, but the TLOU2 clip is just off-putting violence, but more so because there is zero context to the scene as discussed earlier. On its own, the trailer is mainly just gross, but I think it's mainly a weird trailer in terms of promoting a game in general.
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Oct 30, 2017 21:44
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i'll admit the new TLoU 2 trailer didn't do much for me, but the 1st trailer last year did, and every naughty dog release has been good to great so I'm not too worried. Most importantly however the game is all about the multiplayer anyway. Give me more factions MP and you can hammer a child's arm off every cutscene in the story I don't give a gently caress
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Oct 30, 2017 21:45
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Rinkles posted:Why are you such a twat? Just got tired of Arist repeating the same thought post after post. Peel posted:
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Oct 30, 2017 21:49
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Regarding TLoU, whether the Fireflies can do it isn't really relevant to the morality of Joel's decision because he doesn't care about any of that. To him he really is choosing between curing all of mankind and losing Ellie. If there was an 100% guarantee it would work, Joel would have still done the same thing. The idea that it wouldn't have worked anyways may make you feel better about he did, but that wasn't the decision he would have made. He doesn't break her out and kill everyone that might follow them because he thinks her sacrifice will be in vain, he does it because he can't stand to lose her. It it also strongly indicated that Ellie totally would have approved of it if asked and while, yes, leaving it up to her is also flawed, you can't complain that they don't give her the decision and then dismiss what her decision would have been
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Oct 30, 2017 21:52
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Ghost of Tsushima looks awesome. A game set in japan that's not anime is extremely my jam
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glam rock hamhock posted:Regarding TLoU, whether the Fireflies can do it isn't really relevant to the morality of Joel's decision because he doesn't care about any of that. To him he really is choosing between curing all of mankind and losing Ellie. If there was an 100% guarantee it would work, Joel would have still done the same thing. The idea that it wouldn't have worked anyways may make you feel better about he did, but that wasn't the decision he would have made. He doesn't break her out and kill everyone that might follow them because he thinks her sacrifice will be in vain, he does it because he can't stand to lose her. It it also strongly indicated that Ellie totally would have approved of it if asked and while, yes, leaving it up to her is also flawed, you can't complain that they don't give her the decision and then dismiss what her decision would have been They didn't ask her, specifically. Joel sees right through them, and as he's her 'parent' he makes the decision for her and then lies to 'protect' her. She goes along with the lie since she trusts Joel more than anyone else in this particular post-apocalypse. There's absolutely emotional nuance and that sense of nuance distinguishes it as a story, but it's not really ambiguous. edit; the real weirdness is that some people don't seem capable of differentiating between nuance and ambiguity, in a game made very specifically by devs that have said hundreds of times that they intended to make a story about the bond between 2 individuals rather than about some larger event. BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Oct 30, 2017 |
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Oct 30, 2017 22:01
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Rinkles posted:Guessing I'm not alone in feeling that scene (tlou2 trailer) was a bit much? Don't really want to play that game anymore. It's a bit much and also gives me the feeling that AAA video games have largely lost their way. Pure story trailers are bad to begin with... But just watching women torture each other in the rain I'm like, how is this even video games
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Oct 30, 2017 22:04
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This trailer's also the first one that's made me think, "Hey, a green band/red band thing at the beginning of video game trailers wouldn't hurt."
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Oct 30, 2017 22:06
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The modern-looking logo for Ghosts of Tsushima makes me wonder if there's something more going on than a straight historical setting.
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glam rock hamhock posted:Regarding TLoU, whether the Fireflies can do it isn't really relevant to the morality of Joel's decision because he doesn't care about any of that. To him he really is choosing between curing all of mankind and losing Ellie. If there was an 100% guarantee it would work, Joel would have still done the same thing. The idea that it wouldn't have worked anyways may make you feel better about he did, but that wasn't the decision he would have made. He doesn't break her out and kill everyone that might follow them because he thinks her sacrifice will be in vain, he does it because he can't stand to lose her. It it also strongly indicated that Ellie totally would have approved of it if asked and while, yes, leaving it up to her is also flawed, you can't complain that they don't give her the decision and then dismiss what her decision would have been I think there are two separate scenarios you have to look at. The overall effect on the world and Joel's personal motivation. Would it have saved the world, or even helped at all? Unlikely. But it's possible. As far as Joel goes you are right, none of that matters from his perspective. I don't think he has any reason to assume it will work any more than it won't based on what he has experienced at that point though. But that doesn't really matter because that's not why he's doing it. At the same time people are quick to call it selfish, but I don't think it's that cut and dry. They were both double crossed, and the way the Fireflies went about it was abysmal. I don't fault him for reacting the way he did. And while it's likely she would have agreed to it, she didn't. They could have easily confirmed that if they wanted that to be part of the game, but they didn't. it really is something you have to draw your own conclusions from. There is a ton of gray area in every aspect of the scenario. I think all things considered Joel did the right thing. There's nothing objective about it though.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:13
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veni veni veni posted:Wolfenstien is really violent but the campiness of it makes it seem a lot milder than the TLOU 2 trailer to me. The trailer didn't really affect my interest either way. It was good but sort of a weird thing to use for marketing material. Yeah Wolfenstein is like when Murphy gets killed at the beginning of Robocop. It's so over the top it's not horrifying anymore.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:17
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Peel posted:The modern-looking logo for Ghosts of Tsushima makes me wonder if there's something more going on than a straight historical setting. God no, let historical games be historical. The last thing we need is another Assassin's Creed metaplot.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:24
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All the tLoU trailer told me is that it's going to continue to be dark as hell, that Laura Bailey is in it, and that it's going to look frikkin' gorgeous. I'm in the camp that thinks the game didn't need to exist, but if they're actually shifting the spotlight to other characters I'm interested.
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Oct 30, 2017 22:40
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They should remake tlou but elle can swim and the ffs are too scared of the duo to pull their poo poo at the hospital and everyone extols the virtue of learning to swim and then the sequel will have a new stupid thing that they use over and over for cheep tension and cliffhanger chapter endings.
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Real hurthling! posted:and then the sequel will have a new stupid thing that they use over and over for cheep tension and cliffhanger chapter endings. Rock-slides?
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Oct 30, 2017 23:09
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Oct 30, 2017 23:12
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TLOU s a weird derail for the Bloodborne thread.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:12
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Peel posted:The modern-looking logo for Ghosts of Tsushima makes me wonder if there's something more going on than a straight historical setting. There's no way they can straight rip off AssCreed's thing
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Oct 30, 2017 23:15
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the last of kos
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Oct 30, 2017 23:16
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It would be so amazing if they just did it though
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Oct 30, 2017 23:16
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Boogalo posted:TLOU s a weird derail for the Bloodborne thread.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:19
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It's really nice of them to save the Bloodborne 2 reveal for PSX.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:21
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IncanBorne Aztec Souls
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TLOU 2 trailer and TLOU chat in this thread have confirmed that these are games I don’t want to play. I just don’t have much stomach for depictions of brutal physical cruelty by people in power these days. I get that these are horror games and I’m not asking them not to be, they’re just not for me. Which is a shame because I love stealthy games. To bring this back around to being on BB topic, I much prefer that kind of fantasy baroque horror. So delightfully over them top that I can immerse myself in a strange nightmarish world without specifically contemplating how utterly awful ordinary humans can be. Also been enjoying the bright and colourful escapist shooting of Destiny 2. And the over the top cartoon brutality of Blood Bowl 2 (the other BB game).
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doingitwrong posted:TLOU 2 trailer and TLOU chat in this thread have confirmed that these are games I don’t want to play. I just don’t have much stomach for depictions of brutal physical cruelty by people in power these days. I get that these are horror games and I’m not asking them not to be, they’re just not for me. Which is a shame because I love stealthy games. Thanks for sharing.
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Oct 30, 2017 23:33
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Scrolls through thread looking for BB2, closes thread.
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Monster Hunter is basically Dark Souls-y enemy pattern recognition with the grinding of a JRPG right?
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Oct 30, 2017 23:39
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Psn just sent me a bunch of free SOTC avatars for playing on PS3
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Oh hey Target is doing b2g1 right now, can't tell if it applies to in-store, maybe just online orders, but it includes preorders
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RatHat posted:Monster Hunter is basically Dark Souls-y enemy pattern recognition with the grinding of a JRPG right? Eh, I guess, they don't really have much in common other than making you commit to attacks rather than being able to cancel out of everything.
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