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Arquinsiel posted:Pretty much everyone is heavily armed in the 41st millenium. It's just how things work. Also, it's Chaos. Pretty sure cults can pray for weapons and out of a warp rift pops a Dark Mechanicus envoy to work out the details.
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Cythereal posted:Also, it's Chaos. Pretty sure cults can pray for weapons and out of a warp rift pops a Dark Mechanicus envoy to work out the details. It's probably why I enjoyed Halo Jones so much TBH.
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Chaos likes to hit up Forge Worlds. It's like the Bass Pro Shop of endless war.
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I've been re-reading the Malus Darkblade books and something's been bugging me in Bloodstorm. When Malus' half-sister Nagaira revives him after he was tortured and introduces him to the slaanish cult, she gives him a mask made from a cured dark elf face and Malus notes it fits him perfectly. Is this supposed to be implying that the mask was made from his face? The next time Malus sees his own face he reacts with shock but he only thinks "Is that how others see me?" without saying why. It's something minor and irrelevant in the long run, but it's bugging me and I don't know why.
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I get the impression that those books were very much not written as a coherent story so much as wrapping random details around the comics and hoping it made sense. Which it did not.
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Arquinsiel posted:I get the impression that those books were very much not written as a coherent story so much as wrapping random details around the comics and hoping it made sense. Look, if you read a book where the main character is named Malus Darkblade I don't think there's any denying that you knew exactly what you were getting yourself into.
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Pendent posted:Look, if you read a book where the main character is named Malus Darkblade I don't think there's any denying that you knew exactly what you were getting yourself into. That's my point. I was hoping for a vaguely competent prose version of the comics with a bit more Abnett dialogue, and instead I got... those books.
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Arquinsiel posted:I get the impression that those books were very much not written as a coherent story so much as wrapping random details around the comics and hoping it made sense. I thought the Malus Darkblade books were coherent and made sense. I mean, they're not the best stories ever written, but I wouldn't say they're bad. I never read the original comics, so I don't know how well they adapt the portion of the comics they cover.
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It may be a a major fake out, but read this description of the upcoming Alpha Legion book. If has what it's suggesting, I will be so loving happy. The Alpha Legion being Tzeetch level schemers who've had a 10,000 year plan to gently caress over Chaos is so 40k.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:It may be a a major fake out, but read this description of the upcoming Alpha Legion book. If has what it's suggesting, I will be so loving happy. The Alpha Legion being Tzeetch level schemers who've had a 10,000 year plan to gently caress over Chaos is so 40k. I was getting wxcited but than I saw Written by Rob Sanders And now I'm soft
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I remember the Darkblade series being a great look into how a society of sociopaths could function and really enjoyed it. Maybe I need to reread it, because I was a teenager at the time.
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Waroduce posted:I was getting wxcited but than I saw The alpha legionnaire named Occam, boy this is gonna be pretty bad I think.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:It may be a a major fake out, but read this description of the upcoming Alpha Legion book. If has what it's suggesting, I will be so loving happy. The Alpha Legion being Tzeetch level schemers who've had a 10,000 year plan to gently caress over Chaos is so 40k. Yawn. The Alphas are super secretive mega schemers who only get caught or foiled when they want to be, I get it.
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Waroduce posted:I was getting wxcited but than I saw I like Rob Sanders, especially when he's writing weird chaos-y stuff. Legion of the Damned, Atlas Infernal, and his Mechanicus books are all a lot of fun.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:It may be a a major fake out, but read this description of the upcoming Alpha Legion book. If has what it's suggesting, I will be so loving happy. The Alpha Legion being Tzeetch level schemers who've had a 10,000 year plan to gently caress over Chaos is so 40k. It's Alpha Legion, of course it's a fake out.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I like Rob Sanders, especially when he's writing weird chaos-y stuff. Legion of the Damned, Atlas Infernal, and his Mechanicus books are all a lot of fun. Agree, after Legion of the Damned, I'm willing to give that book a shot.
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Cythereal posted:Yawn. The Alphas are super secretive mega schemers who only get caught or foiled when they want to be, I get it. Or do they.  [spolr]Yes, they do.[/spoler] Or do they...
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The Rat posted:Agree, after Legion of the Damned, I'm willing to give that book a shot. Yeah, that is easily my favorite 40k stand alone story.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:It may be a a major fake out, but read this description of the upcoming Alpha Legion book. If has what it's suggesting, I will be so loving happy. The Alpha Legion being Tzeetch level schemers who've had a 10,000 year plan to gently caress over Chaos is so 40k. As long as it's better than that Shroud of Night trash. Seriously, glad I didn't waste my money on that.
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MariusLecter posted:Or do they. Alternatively, the Alpha Legion inherited what little of the Emperor's honesty and straightforwardness remained, but in the grim darkness of the far future, both contemporary accounts and historical records are so suspicious of such individuals, it is assumed they must be Machiavellian plotters. Alpha Legionnaire: "Ho, there, Word Bearer! Your serfs make a delicious blood soup! My compliments to the chef!" Word Bearer Legionnaire: (Damnable hydra! What is his game? Have the soup vats been poisoned? Have the serfs been converted to their side? I must cast the entirety of the lower decks into the warp before his dire games can come to their conclusion!) Alpha Legionnaire: (Boy, this soup is good. I should get seconds.)
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Pyrolocutus posted:Alternatively, the Alpha Legion inherited what little of the Emperor's honesty and straightforwardness remained, but in the grim darkness of the far future, both contemporary accounts and historical records are so suspicious of such individuals, it is assumed they must be Machiavellian plotters. A legion of this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDr9axb7X7E
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Uroboros posted:I remember the Darkblade series being a great look into how a society of sociopaths could function and really enjoyed it. Maybe I need to reread it, because I was a teenager at the time. Malus was also really really stupid in an endearing way.
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Is Malus that Dark Elf who got himself possessed by a demon trapped in a sword?
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X_Toad posted:Is Malus that Dark Elf who got himself possessed by a demon trapped in a sword? ....Drizzit?
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X_Toad posted:Is Malus that Dark Elf who got himself possessed by a demon trapped in a sword? Yup. His whole story is a succession of bad choices made to escape the gently caress-ups caused by other, previous bad choices.
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wiegieman posted:Yup. His whole story is a succession of bad choices made to escape the gently caress-ups caused by other, previous bad choices. Yeah it's like choice A is "I don't want to admit I hosed up leading a pirate raid..." and choice Z is "...so it'll be totally cool if I let the demon sword have my soul, right?" and the books are B-Y. The books are also technically a prequel to a bunch of comic books about the dude, but the comics are pretty hard to find while the novels themselves aren't which is some recursive storytelling right there, you know?
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jng2058 posted:Yeah it's like choice A is "I don't want to admit I hosed up leading a pirate raid..." and choice Z is "...so it'll be totally cool if I let the demon sword have my soul, right?" and the books are B-Y. The books are also technically a prequel to a bunch of comic books about the dude, but the comics are pretty hard to find while the novels themselves aren't which is some recursive storytelling right there, you know? Well, demon trapped in a crystal, not in a sword. Same difference though (the sword is something else and comes into play much, much later). The Malus Darkblade novels are basically the story of a puppet who thinks he's a puppet master, and the only reason he's able to come out ahead is that he's everyone's puppet and he's usually more useful alive than dead to SOMEONE. He isn't stupid, just that there's usually 3-4 plots going on in the background, and he'll know of maybe one, if that. Prophecy and fate are bitches.
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And yet somehow he always pulled a "just as planned  " outcome.I gave up and read Dragonlance instead. It was better.
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Randalor posted:Well, demon trapped in a crystal, not in a sword. Same difference though (the sword is something else and comes into play much, much later). The Malus Darkblade novels are basically the story of a puppet who thinks he's a puppet master, and the only reason he's able to come out ahead is that he's everyone's puppet and he's usually more useful alive than dead to SOMEONE. He isn't stupid, just that there's usually 3-4 plots going on in the background, and he'll know of maybe one, if that. Prophecy and fate are bitches. The interesting parts are how his story echo's Malekith's backstory. Which is why the rumors for a while were that Malus would replace Malekith. Malekith suffers from Abaddon syndrome. He is 'The' or at least 'A' big bad, so he has to show up and get his butt kicked to prove how awesome the heroes are. Which means all anyone ever sees is him getting his butt kicked by the plucky heroes.
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Just finished Watchers of the Throne on the advice of the thread and it was good as hell. It managed to get my hyped for the new fluff in ways that Dark Imperium could never have hoped to- I really think this would have been a better book to introduce us all to the new setting.
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Waroduce posted:....Drizzit?  not empty quoting.
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Xae posted:The interesting parts are how his story echo's Malekith's backstory. Which is why the rumors for a while were that Malus would replace Malekith. Wasn't Malekith retconned into a good guy by the End Times? The evil scheming mages rigged the fire so it would burn him or something because he was too noble and handsome and whatever. (It was pretty dumb)
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von Metternich posted:Wasn't Malekith retconned into a good guy by the End Times? The evil scheming mages rigged the fire so it would burn him or something because he was too noble and handsome and whatever. He was retconned into the true rightful ruler, that he was burned is explained by him being more whimpy than his dad and not enduring the scorching flames for those extra seconds needed to get magically healed & anointed. This is the reasonable part, what is dumb is that the millennias of psychopathy, sadism, mass torture, brutal slavery and war of extermination, is wholly glossed over and ignored by the bulk of the players/factions.
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ed balls balls man posted:http://www.blacklibrary.com/coming-soon/february/the-magos-ebook.html Whaaat
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I wonder if this was a situation where, for something in Penitent to make sense he had to explain something from Eisenhorn's days as an Inquisitor, and ended up expanding that story enough that he had enough material for a novel of its own. Penitent hasn't officially been cancelled yet, right?
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The Black Library posted:READ IT BECAUSE Well, they're not wrong.
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