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Vulpes
Nov 13, 2002

Well, shit.

wisdomHNOX posted:

Consensus I’ve heard for PS is g8 Kanaan/Zeb/Chop, g9 Hera, and Ezra as high as you can/want, especially because he’s useful for other things.

I did it with all G8 except Chopper at G7, with my arena mods. Took a bunch of tries though.

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MadMadi
Mar 16, 2012

Vulpes posted:

I did it with all G8 except Chopper at G7, with my arena mods. Took a bunch of tries though.

Is 7* Thrawn more or less out of the question if you’re below the level cap? I’m 74 now and no matter how geared I get my PS, I doubt I will get to even 80 before he rolls around again.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

rocket_Magnet posted:

What's the most barebones Phoenix squad I can have to hit 7* thrawn? I've got Hera/kannan/Zeb/chopper g8 Sabine n Ezra g7 I really really don't want to g9 Zeb or kannan as they require 4 stun guns between them and gently caress that, there's better uses for the the guns.

Also do I zeta fives/OB (only g9)/Leia/or put a 2nd on CLS (his lead I would lean towards). Or do I go full retard and throw it on one of the Phoenix dudes? This will be zeta 15 so I've already got all of the other must haves I can think of.

I managed it with G8 Hera, ezra, kanaan, chooper, and zeb. I've got alot of omegas bought.

I had to put arena mods on the phoenix, but I got the job done. Having a GX/XI Ezra goes a long way too.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



im cute posted:

As far as a 4-5* G5-6 Nightsister squad goes, how is Talzin, Asajj, Talia, Daka, Zombie? Phoenix squad is running out of steam.

Honestly? I wouldn't try going off meta just yet if you're shooting for 5* G6 characters. When I was using squads of that power, old nightsisters were regularly getting me near the top 100, but that was just after TFA came out and my shard was still fresh. I don't yet have zombie at a level that can serve any purpose, so I can't comment on the actual effectiveness. My final NS squad will probably be zTalzin[L], Daka, Asajj, Acolyte/float, Zombie. Acolyte can be switched around depending on what I need, same with Asajj, but Talzin and Daka are core.

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

im cute posted:

As far as a 4-5* G5-6 Nightsister squad goes, how is Talzin, Asajj, Talia, Daka, Zombie? Phoenix squad is running out of steam.

You want Acolyte instead of Talia to let you timeout idiots who don’t pack an AoE dispel on defense.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Vulpes posted:

I did it with all G8 except Chopper at G7, with my arena mods. Took a bunch of tries though.

This is crazy to me. Is Chopper that much better than Sabine? I didn't have Chopper at 7 stars yet, at the time. I had all the rest at gear 8, Ezra at gear 9, and I couldn't even get close. It was a god drat brick wall every time. Good arena mods, too.

I'll have Ezra at gear 10 by next time, and probably Chopper at gear 8.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

thrawn527 posted:

This is crazy to me. Is Chopper that much better than Sabine? I didn't have Chopper at 7 stars yet, at the time. I had all the rest at gear 8, Ezra at gear 9, and I couldn't even get close. It was a god drat brick wall every time. Good arena mods, too.

I'll have Ezra at gear 10 by next time, and probably Chopper at gear 8.

Chopper does 2 things:

He offensive dispells
His passive grants health regen to your squad

Sabine brings stagger, which is helpful for removing the deathtrooper buff, but ultimately not as useful as Choppers kit.

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
QGJ has two more openings. I'm shooting for HAAT after the next TB or the one after. We got 20 stars last battle. Should be 21 this next time

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.

Chilichimp posted:

Chopper does 2 things:

He offensive dispells
His passive grants health regen to your squad

Sabine brings stagger, which is helpful for removing the deathtrooper buff, but ultimately not as useful as Choppers kit.

You’re missing: he continuously lowers everyone else’s cooldowns, and he emergency taunts to draw fracture or buy you time while Kanan is fractured to get backup plan up.

BobTheDestroyer
Dec 21, 2011
So Rey's journey is official, time to start panic farming again. Hoping it s the usual zFinn team but what's the best that shipment only Veteran HS and Chewie + Falcon

Mister Blueberry
Feb 17, 2010

Mike, Steve, what the hell

BobTheDestroyer posted:

So Rey's journey is official, time to start panic farming again. Hoping it s the usual zFinn team but what's the best that shipment only Veteran HS and Chewie + Falcon

Don't forget the 2xhard nodes only FO Stormtrooper and Pilot to get BB8...

This will probably be the only legendary i'll miss on to be honest. Unless they release some FO toons on cantina nodes or something. But who am I kidding, I don't even have anyone except Phasma.

Mister Blueberry
Feb 17, 2010

Mike, Steve, what the hell

CaptainPsyko posted:

You’re missing: he continuously lowers everyone else’s cooldowns, and he emergency taunts to draw fracture or buy you time while Kanan is fractured to get backup plan up.

Also, he grants protection up that gives you some leeway to get back your real protection and HP back.

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

Mister Blueberry posted:

Don't forget the 2xhard nodes only FO Stormtrooper and Pilot to get BB8...

I carried on with that farm after getting bb8 at 6 stars and I'm about 20 shards from finishing it completely now. That will free up about 200 energy a day which I can devote to getting my resistance team arena worthy. I'll be screwed still if they ask for those new veteran characters from the force awakens, which of course they will. And, if bb8 is going to be required, I hope we get another chance at him before the jedi rey event.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

BobTheDestroyer posted:

So Rey's journey is official, time to start panic farming again. Hoping it s the usual zFinn team but what's the best that shipment only Veteran HS and Chewie + Falcon

God damnit... I hadn't even considered this possibility.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

God dammit, I need 1 more zeta to be able to zeta Number Crunch, and today's farming netting 0 out of a possible 4.

Also, the official post about Rey's Hero's Journey mentions that you'll need Rey (Scavenger) to complete the journey, but that's the only person they mention. Which is weird, because I assume you'll need more than just her.

thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Nov 2, 2017

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

BB8 and Finn for sure.

I could easily see Veteran Han and Chewie, assuming they make them farmable.

I'll be slotting this one into the back of my to-farm necessary characters list, at least until we see what new Rey's kit is -- I'm assuming the event is going to be after TLJ and this will be her character in that.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Hubbardologist posted:

BB8 and Finn for sure.

I could easily see Veteran Han and Chewie, assuming they make them farmable.

I'll be slotting this one into the back of my to-farm necessary characters list, at least until we see what new Rey's kit is -- I'm assuming the event is going to be after TLJ and this will be her character in that.

But I don't remember them hiding who you'd need for the CLS event once it was announced. In the initial announcement, didn't they say you'd need STH, Leia, Farmboy Luke, R2, and Old Ben? Why not mention it here? It's not like anyone would be able to fully farm a Resistance team if they didn't have it already in time, so it would still sell them some packs.

I'm not saying you'll only need Rey. Just that it's weird to not mention who else you'll need when they specifically say you'll need Rey.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

thrawn527 posted:

God dammit, I need 1 more zeta to be able to zeta Number Crunch, and today's farming netting 0 out of a possible 4.

Also, the official post about Rey's Hero's Journey mentions that you'll need Rey (Scavenger) to complete the journey, but that's the only person they mention. Which is weird, because I assume you'll need more than just her.

We speculated a lot about this in discord and the consensus is they're at least going to make the journey require Chewie and Han and they'll probably drop them both into F2P right before or when the journey starts in order to manufacture the same sort of panic-farm spending that surrounded the CLS heroes journey event.

Start stockpiling currency if you can, and think about buying han/chewie shards from the shops so you can get them 5*+ before they hit F2P. Very likely one of them will be a Cantina Battles and the other will hit a shop.

thrawn527 posted:

But I don't remember them hiding who you'd need for the CLS event once it was announced. In the initial announcement, didn't they say you'd need STH, Leia, Farmboy Luke, R2, and Old Ben? Why not mention it here? It's not like anyone would be able to fully farm a Resistance team if they didn't have it already in time, so it would still sell them some packs.

I'm not saying you'll only need Rey. Just that it's weird to not mention who else you'll need when they specifically say you'll need Rey.

Mal dug in archives and showed us that yes, the did hide the New Hope toon requirements. We goons all told each other to farm them, because we correctly guessed they would be necessary, but the actual announcement of them being required didn't happen until like right before the CLS event dropped, not leaving much time for folks to farm both Farmboy Luke and Old Ben.

Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Nov 2, 2017

Moral_Hazard
Aug 21, 2012

Rich Kid of Insurancegram
I'm having a very hard time caring about the next panic farm; largely because, for me at least, the game has been more enjoyable now that I've stopped giving a poo poo. I want to get my zFinn team together and I'm also farming FO. I'm sure they'll drop a few FO dudes after the movie hits. Hard node farms do suck though with ~3 shards a day.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Chilichimp posted:

We speculated a lot about this in discord and the consensus is they're at least going to make the journey require Chewie and Han and they'll probably drop them both into F2P right before or when the journey starts in order to manufacture the same sort of panic-farm spending that surrounded the CLS heroes journey event.

Start stockpiling currency if you can, and think about buying han/chewie shards from the shops so you can get them 5*+ before they hit F2P. Very likely one of them will be a Cantina Battles and the other will hit a shop.


Mal dug in archives and showed us that yes, the did hide the New Hope toon requirements. We goons all told each other to farm them, because we correctly guessed they would be necessary, but the actual announcement of them being required didn't happen until like right before the CLS event dropped, not leaving much time for folks to farm both Farmboy Luke and Old Ben.

Ah, well poo poo, never mind then.

Ineptitude
Mar 2, 2010

Heed my words and become a master of the Heart (of Thorns).
I am preparing my CLS squad. All 5 are 7*, with GL9 on all except Obi One.

Which omegas do i want for them? Are GL9's enough to do CLS without hundreds of attempts? I don't have a set of "arena mods" to put on them, so my mods will be alright/good at best, not great.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Ineptitude posted:

I am preparing my CLS squad. All 5 are 7*, with GL9 on all except Obi One.

Which omegas do i want for them? Are GL9's enough to do CLS without hundreds of attempts? I don't have a set of "arena mods" to put on them, so my mods will be alright/good at best, not great.

I did the obiwan phase with G9 obiwan. He just has to last X number of turns. Get Leia and STH up to GXish if you can. Obviously R2 should be G12'ed and zetad ASAP.

Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Nov 2, 2017

UmOk
Aug 3, 2003
I couldn't do Thrawn with g10 Ezra and the rest G8 with arena mods. Who should I bump to G9? I'm thinking Zeb or Kanaan?

Edit: Zeb needs 150 carbantis and 100 stun guns. Not sure about Kanaan.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

UmOk posted:

I couldn't do Thrawn with g10 Ezra and the rest G8 with arena mods. Who should I bump to G9? I'm thinking Zeb or Kanaan?

Edit: Zeb needs 150 carbantis and 100 stun guns. Not sure about Kanaan.

I did it with everyone G8 and arena mods... took a bunch of tries for the RNG to line up, but it's doable.

Deffo up Kanaan, since he's your tank you wanna bait shatter/back-up plan with (and is useful outside of phoenix for jedi squads). Are you running chopper/no sabine? That's the line-up you want.

Invest in some omegas that pay dividends in dmg or survivability as well.

UmOk
Aug 3, 2003

Chilichimp posted:

I did it with everyone G8 and arena mods... took a bunch of tries for the RNG to line up, but it's doable.

Deffo up Kanaan, since he's your tank you wanna bait shatter/back-up plan with (and is useful outside of phoenix for jedi squads). Are you running chopper/no sabine? That's the line-up you want.

Invest in some omegas that pay dividends in dmg or survivability as well.

Used chopper and had almost all omegas. Probably over 50 attempts counting full autos.

TheAnomaly
Feb 20, 2003

Chilichimp posted:

I did the obiwan phase with G11 obiwan. He just has to last X number of turns. Get Leia and STH up to GXish if you can. Obviously R2 should be G12'ed and zetad ASAP.

I did it with a level 80 g8 Old Ben and just put as much protection and health on him as I could, I barely made it but it was definitely doable with a low end Old Ben

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

TheAnomaly posted:

I did it with a level 80 g8 Old Ben and just put as much protection and health on him as I could, I barely made it but it was definitely doable with a low end Old Ben

MY BAD, I meant G9 obiwan

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

Found an article on Speed. Not sure how reliable a source it is but they say it's all been tested...so ok then I guess. Interesting read at least.

MY BAD!

quote:

Edit: This article was accurate at the time that it was written. However, the speed mechanic has changed since its publication.

I read the whole thing as well and was all excited I finally got it :downs:

Cactus fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Nov 3, 2017

Mister Blueberry
Feb 17, 2010

Mike, Steve, what the hell

UmOk posted:

Used chopper and had almost all omegas. Probably over 50 attempts counting full autos.

People that failed in my guild were people that didn't listen to reason. The Thrawn event is all about survivability, so, speed secondary mods are fine and all, but you need to stock up protection on chopper, zeb and HP for kanan. Chopper protection up buff is invaluable so you regain your real prot while they attack you. Some crit chance on Kanan can be key to put offense down on the deathtroopers.

Don't get me wrong, it's still RNG, but more prot and HP will take you a long way. I did it with all Gear 8, without Ezra.

Ineptitude
Mar 2, 2010

Heed my words and become a master of the Heart (of Thorns).

Chilichimp posted:

I did the obiwan phase with G9 obiwan. He just has to last X number of turns. Get Leia and STH up to GXish if you can. Obviously R2 should be G12'ed and zetad ASAP.

Alright, i don't mind gearing them up a bit further.
Luke looks really easy to get to G10, in fact i only need 1 more piece for that. Is he not particularly useful for the CLS event?
I won't have any Zetas on anyone.

The main motivation for asking about this is i want to spend some omegas on my other guys; right now i am saving all MkIII mats and Omegas for the CLS squad. Which Omegas are the most useful for getting CLS?

Mister Blueberry
Feb 17, 2010

Mike, Steve, what the hell

Ineptitude posted:

Alright, i don't mind gearing them up a bit further.
Luke looks really easy to get to G10, in fact i only need 1 more piece for that. Is he not particularly useful for the CLS event?
I won't have any Zetas on anyone.

The main motivation for asking about this is i want to spend some omegas on my other guys; right now i am saving all MkIII mats and Omegas for the CLS squad. Which Omegas are the most useful for getting CLS?

I think that Leia's omega (on basic) is the only one really needed. You could also get her special, as you will certainly use her at some point in HAAT.

But you should sit on the omegas to be honest. Wait for the event to come up and if you can;t complete it, only then start investing. Unless STH and Leia are toons that you are going to play anyhow. Or Old ben. You will never play with farmboy luke, ever.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Mister Blueberry posted:

I think that Leia's omega (on basic) is the only one really needed. You could also get her special, as you will certainly use her at some point in HAAT.

But you should sit on the omegas to be honest. Wait for the event to come up and if you can;t complete it, only then start investing. Unless STH and Leia are toons that you are going to play anyhow. Or Old ben. You will never play with farmboy luke, ever.

Eh, I won't use him anymore once I unlock Baze, Chirrut, or CLS, but my Rebel team of Wedge, Biggs, R2, STH, and Farmboy Luke has been pretty drat powerful, and can punch way above it's weight class. Luke actually hits pretty hard.

Like, yeah, eventually you won't use him anymore. But I wouldn't say he's never useful.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Ineptitude posted:

Alright, i don't mind gearing them up a bit further.
Luke looks really easy to get to G10, in fact i only need 1 more piece for that. Is he not particularly useful for the CLS event?
I won't have any Zetas on anyone.

The main motivation for asking about this is i want to spend some omegas on my other guys; right now i am saving all MkIII mats and Omegas for the CLS squad. Which Omegas are the most useful for getting CLS?

Farmboy Luke sucks and is useful for nothing. Don't bother getting him past G8, don't omega anything.

STH and Leia are both very good in the Tank raid and it's not a waste to put some gear on them to use later.

Ben is a decent PVP tank and you should think about slotting him on your arena team until you get a General Kenobi or Baze.

R2D2 is pro-tier awesome and you should just be gearing him and buying his zetas.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

thrawn527 posted:

Eh, I won't use him anymore once I unlock Baze, Chirrut, or CLS, but my Rebel team of Wedge, Biggs, R2, STH, and Farmboy Luke has been pretty drat powerful, and can punch way above it's weight class. Luke actually hits pretty hard.

Like, yeah, eventually you won't use him anymore. But I wouldn't say he's never useful.

When you're low level and working on getting harder-to-get toons, he can be useful. I mean you've got him for the CLS event, why not use him? There are just too many better options for DPS. Just as a for instance... Leia would be a much better DEEPS in that comp, and you've got her for the same reason you've got Luke.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Chilichimp posted:

When you're low level and working on getting harder-to-get toons, he can be useful. I mean you've got him for the CLS event, why not use him? There are just too many better options for DPS. Just as a for instance... Leia would be a much better DEEPS in that comp, and you've got her for the same reason you've got Luke.

Yeah, you're probably right there. I only just 7 starred R2, so Leia was in that mix earlier, she's just slightly lower ranked than my Luke so she got cut first. I'll probably switch her in. But before I had R2, they were both in there, and pretty drat effective.

Crumbletron
Jul 21, 2006



IT'S YOUR BOY JESUS, MANE
Leia fuckin rules. She hits like a Mack truck when all her buffs are up (and ideally they stay up with very little work unless you get dispelled)

Mr. Neutron
Sep 15, 2012

~I'M THE BEST~
Leia rules cause her piddly triple crits. buff or no, heal my GK for far more that she damages him :smug:

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

thrawn527 posted:

Yeah, you're probably right there. I only just 7 starred R2, so Leia was in that mix earlier, she's just slightly lower ranked than my Luke so she got cut first. I'll probably switch her in. But before I had R2, they were both in there, and pretty drat effective.
Listen to me when I tell you to cut luke now for leia or r2. If either of them are g8 it's a worthwhile replacement.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



While were on this, what is the opinion on various rebel tank options. 99% sure I'm going Old Ben next, but what about Kanan and Pathfinder? How do they stack up, who do you want to use where and for what reasons, etc?

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Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Warmachine posted:

While were on this, what is the opinion on various rebel tank options. 99% sure I'm going Old Ben next, but what about Kanan and Pathfinder? How do they stack up, who do you want to use where and for what reasons, etc?

Old Ben is meta.

SRP is okay, Kanaan shines on jedi/phoenix squads, but even then kanaan is just General Kenobi's placeholder

Chilichimp fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Nov 3, 2017

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