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I've been reading Discipline and Punish, which provides plenty of content that would fit this thread, like you'd expect from a book about the development of the modern prison system. It opens with a first-hand account of a botched drawing-and-quartering, for example (note: exactly as  as it sounds).Also, it has pictures! (not of the drawing and quartering though)  "Lecture on the evils of alcoholism in the auditorium of Fresnes prison"
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RCarr posted:People smoke weed in public all the drat time, everywhere. People do coke at the urinals of every bathroom in every bar. It's the American way. I live in San Francisco, and smelling weed is probable cause to believe you've gone outside. Cops haven't cared about that for a loooooong time.
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mllaneza posted:I live in San Francisco, and smelling weed is probable cause to believe you've gone outside. Cops haven't cared about that for a loooooong time. Same in Houston. Its literally a like $180 fine and a 2 hour class if you're caught with less than or equal to 4 ounces of weed. Its at every concert, bar, and outdoor gathering.
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Wasabi the J posted:I remember being casino security and the only time I felt remotely douchey was when they forced me to report drug poo poo to the cops because it was ALWAYS black and Latino dudes getting hosed over by this poo poo. You’d detain someone because you walked in on them doing a line? Is that even legal? Can’t they just leave?
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maskenfreiheit posted:You’d detain someone because you walked in on them doing a line? Is that even legal? Can’t they just leave? You're doing illegal poo poo on the premises, of course they can detain you. I mean, if you somehow get away from them and get out the door and off the property I guess they can't chase you but good luck with that.
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Basebf555 posted:You're doing illegal poo poo on the premises, of course they can detain you. I mean, if you somehow get away from them and get out the door and off the property I guess they can't chase you but good luck with that. Are they allowed to physically detain you, or is it like shoplifting where they can't legally touch you only stand in front of you, but they grab people all the time and get away with it because cops are awful?
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Captain Monkey posted:Are they allowed to physically detain you, or is it like shoplifting where they can't legally touch you only stand in front of you, but they grab people all the time and get away with it because cops are awful? They can *legally* touch you and detain for shoplifting. Most companies don't allow it as a policy because they don't trust the LP guys (who have four whole hours of job training) to open them up to lawsuits for either a) using disproportionate force or b) detaining the wrong person. I know there is a decent size electronics store near me that had LP guys that were authorized to detain shoplifters, even pursuing them into the parking lot (which was theirs). I don't know if they still do it, but at least 5 or 6 years ago they were.
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https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2017/10/28/family-shattered-by-allegations-man-lived-like-a-prisoner-in-basement-for-decades.html Friend just linked this lovely case where a developmentally-disabled homeless couple are held captive in a basement by the couple who abducted and raised their baby as their own.
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Basebf555 posted:You're doing illegal poo poo on the premises, of course they can detain you. I mean, if you somehow get away from them and get out the door and off the property I guess they can't chase you but good luck with that. They're not police officers. Stores have a legal authority to detain you for shoplifting, but I'm not understanding how you can detain someone for anything else - generally there's specific rules (eg shoplifting or a felony) Edit: plus the reputation hit a club would take
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Whether store security can physically detain someone varies by state, and there's a lot of variance from full-on beat the poo poo out of a suspected shoplifter legally to LP gets arrested if they do anything other than yell loudly. Back when I worked retail, it was in a state that allowed physical detention, but we were told in no uncertain terms to not even leave the store to look at plates for fear of provoking violence from the shoplifter. Different corporations will handle it differently, of course, but the consensus in retail seems to be that the gain from aggressive LP is far outweighed by the cost of lawsuits that inevitably spring from such policy.
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Azathoth posted:Whether store security can physically detain someone varies by state, and there's a lot of variance from full-on beat the poo poo out of a suspected shoplifter legally to LP gets arrested if they do anything other than yell loudly. I watched an LP who had to be fifty tackle the gently caress out of a shoplifter who was maybe 25 at the most, that lady ruled, it was like watching your meemaw lay a kid the gently caress out
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Goon Danton posted:I've been reading Discipline and Punish, which provides plenty of content that would fit this thread, like you'd expect from a book about the development of the modern prison system. It opens with a first-hand account of a botched drawing-and-quartering, for example (note: exactly as Looks like some Clockwork Orange poo poo going on there.
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Solice Kirsk posted:If only the US wasn't so damned litigious we could have jack-booted LP officers breaking arms of all those ne'er-do-wells that have the gall to steal $0.20 worth of plastic and circuit board from a multi trillion dollar corporation. This country....this country used to mean something. Lp is the devil but it's still funny remembering meemaw tackling a girl
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:I watched an LP who had to be fifty tackle the gently caress out of a shoplifter who was maybe 25 at the most, that lady ruled, it was like watching your meemaw lay a kid the gently caress out I too think it is badass that a wage slave risked getting stabbed or shot over some multinational’s property.
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Loucks posted:I too think it is badass that a wage slave risked getting stabbed or shot over some multinational’s property. 
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Loucks posted:I too think it is badass that a wage slave risked getting stabbed or shot over some multinational’s property. OMG. Mind. Blown. Down with that sort of thing!
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The people who actively chase or attack other people that steal from their retail stores are doing that because they feel like it gives them an excuse to take out their anger on someone. They're trash. When I was a B&N manager some dude ran out the music section fire exit with like $700 merchandise and I just started laughing my rear end off. Dude this whole place has cameras everywhere. He tried to sell it later that day at the FYE at the mall that was like 5 mins away and was arrested and we got everything back still wrapped and all If you work at a corporate retail store and actually get mad at people stealing from it as opposed to just reporting it and carrying on you are so loving dumb
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:I watched an LP who had to be fifty tackle the gently caress out of a shoplifter who was maybe 25 at the most, that lady ruled, it was like watching your meemaw lay a kid the gently caress out My grandma was a drunken street fighter in her younger days.
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Aesop Poprock posted:The people who actively chase or attack other people that steal from their retail stores are doing that because they feel like it gives them an excuse to take out their anger on someone. They're trash. When I was a B&N manager some dude ran out the music section fire exit with like $700 merchandise and I just started laughing my rear end off. Dude this whole place has cameras everywhere. He tried to sell it later that day at the FYE at the mall that was like 5 mins away and was arrested and we got everything back still wrapped and all Yeah. These days with cameras everywhere stealing from a retail store is almost like robbing a bank. You are going to get caught.
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MightyJoe36 posted:Looks like some Clockwork Orange poo poo going on there. I showed it to a friend, who's now obsessing over how they get in and out. There don't seem to be any doors. Maybe there are in the back?
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MightyJoe36 posted:Yeah. These days with cameras everywhere stealing from a retail store is almost like robbing a bank. You are going to get caught. Nah. They also don't find most bank robbers either. If you do it a lot you'll get caught eventually, but do it just once and you'll probably get away with it. I'm not talking about full on armed take over robberies here or anything, but handing a note to a teller that says "You're being robbed give me $5000" and walking out when she does isn't going to launch a million cops tearing apart the state looking for you or anything.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Nah. They also don't find most bank robbers either. If you do it a lot you'll get caught eventually, but do it just once and you'll probably get away with it. I'm not talking about full on armed take over robberies here or anything, but handing a note to a teller that says "You're being robbed give me $5000" and walking out when she does isn't going to launch a million cops tearing apart the state looking for you or anything. Explosive dye pack might ruin your day, though.
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Cicada 3301 is a name given to an organization that on six occasions has posted a set of puzzles and alternate reality games to possibly recruit codebreakers/linguists from the public.[1] The first internet puzzle started on January 4, 2012, and ran for approximately one month. A second round began one year later on January 4, 2013, and a third round following the confirmation of a fresh clue posted on Twitter on January 4, 2014.[2][3] The stated intent was to recruit "intelligent individuals" by presenting a series of puzzles which were to be solved. No new puzzles were published on January 4, 2015. However, a new clue was posted on Twitter on January 5, 2016.[4][5] In April 2017 another PGP signed message was found: Beware false paths. Always verify PGP signature from 7A35090F.[6] That message explicitly denies the validity of any unsigned puzzle, as recently as April 2017. The puzzles focused heavily on data security, cryptography, and steganography.[1][7][8][9][10] It has been called "the most elaborate and mysterious puzzle of the internet age"[11] and is listed as one of the "top 5 eeriest, unsolved mysteries of the internet" by The Washington Post,[12] and much speculation exists as to its function. Many have speculated that the puzzles are a recruitment tool for the NSA, CIA, MI6, a "Masonic conspiracy"[13] or a cyber mercenary group.[1][8] Others have claimed Cicada 3301 is an alternate reality game, but the fact that no company or individual has taken credit or tried to monetize it, combined with the fact that no known individuals that solved the puzzles have ever come forward, has led most to feel that it is not.[11]
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About a decade or so ago Robert Pickton was found guilty of murder. He was convicted of killing about 49 women. The women were poor Aboriginal women who disappeared from Vancouver's infamous downtown eastside. Many of the women came from poor communities and for the longest time the police seemed disinterested in investigating the disappearances of poor minority women. The women were taken to Pickton's farm where they were killed and fed to his pigs. The fallout from the case has been an outcry against the police and hearings into missing aboriginal women. In the last few weeks a farm was raided in the interior of British Columbia. Human remains were found on the farm, and it has been reported that at least 5 women, including aboriginal women, have gone missing around the area. Right now everything is preliminary. Who knows where this will lead now.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Why did it take them ten years to find this? Apathy toward women and aboriginals
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Terrible Opinions posted:Why did it take them ten years to find this? It literally said aboriginal women in his post
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I get that, but you'd think that if they bothered to arrest and convict him in the first place they'd also search his farm as a part of that.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Why did it take them ten years to find this? Just to be sure, I am not saying the two things are connected, just that something similar happened 10 years ago.
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We can only try rob the bobster pickton with 6 of the murders out of the 30 because it'd take too long to do a trial for all of them. also that woman who escaped from him can't be a witness because attempted murder is a different crime to murder. these are real things that the judge did in his trial e: I made one up actually, he never called him rob the bobster pickton
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JibbaJabberwocky posted:I studied abroad in Copenhagen in college and was stopped by police in a subway station (bet you can guess which one) on one of my first days in the country and patted down because they thought I was a drug mule. I had a big bag of stuff because I'd just stopped at the dognnetto and loaded up with yogurt and museli and I guess they looked at my clothes, realized I was foreign, and just assumed because of that I was carrying drugs. I wasn't excited about getting stopped on my way home, being forced to unload all my groceries, and getting patted down by a gigantic man in a strange country but it was still a totally pleasant exchange. I can't imagine it would have gone so politely if it had happened to me in the US. Still, absolutely going to call those cops out on profiling because they didn't stop anyone who looked conventionally Danish. Just this dumb girl in her booty shorts and a bunch of non-white men. one time i was in london euston station, and there was a young drug sniffing dog positioned so as to check everyone coming up from the undergound. it marked on the guy behind me, and the cop pulled him aside and had him sit down. i guess the pup was still in training, because the cop went to reward him by pulling out a tennis ball and bouncing it for the dog. except he hosed up the throw, the ball bounced off across the floor, and the dog went wild pulling after it. the cop got dragged behind him and the guy he'd pulled aside just stood up and vanished into the crowd while the cop tried frantically to subdue the happy dog. this story isn't really related to anything i just think it's funny
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chernobyl kinsman posted:one time i was in london euston station, and there was a young drug sniffing dog positioned so as to check everyone coming up from the undergound. it marked on the guy behind me, and the cop pulled him aside and had him sit down. i guess the pup was still in training, because the cop went to reward him by pulling out a tennis ball and bouncing it for the dog. except he hosed up the throw, the ball bounced off across the floor, and the dog went wild pulling after it. the cop got dragged behind him and the guy he'd pulled aside just stood up and vanished into the crowd while the cop tried frantically to subdue the happy dog. it is and i enjoyed it, thanks
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A Spider Covets posted:So I read your post and thought about how generally, white people are ignorant dorks when it comes to this kind of situation*, was writing a thoughtful post about it, and then I thought about it more and like Im late but ive done cocaine at a red light on a motorcycle, so yes, idiots do drugs everywhere.
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Cops Say Japanese Serial Killer Used Twitter to Lure Suicidal Victims https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...e=vicetwitterus
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Terrible Opinions posted:I get that, but you'd think that if they bothered to arrest and convict him in the first place they'd also search his farm as a part of that. Different farm and different crimes and different suspect.
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