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Nihilarian posted:it would probably be easier with a healing RM Or maybe you're trying to level the awful generics.  My advice is to instead just brute-force level them up when you get enough growth eggs, because they're even worse at auto-battling than dedicated mages and because Renewal dungeons have given out an enormous windfall of them.I should note as well that I've been extremely aggressive at efficiently leveling my characters between orbfests, XP dailies, growth eggs, and even "farming parties" in other dailies or the easy parts of events; so my experience may be atypical. I wonder, for day one veterans, how onerous XP grinding has been over the game's lifespan, and whether some of them are just sitting on maximum-XP characters or not.
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Fister Roboto posted:380 stamina for 15 major orbs is over twice as efficient as what you get from daily dungeons (~53.8 stamina per major orb). Even without all the other stuff it would be worth it. The comparison to dailies is irrelevant. What we are comparing is two mythril for that stash. No one would mythril refresh to do more dailies.
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:No one would mythril refresh to do more dailies. Tell that to the more insane whales.
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:The comparison to dailies is irrelevant. What we are comparing is two mythril for that stash. It is also worse than jumpstart torment farming at 20 stamina per major orb, which is another thing people don't refresh for.
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I woke up early this morning and couldn’t go back to sleep right away so I decided to battle d300 Belias, using a similar setup to an earlier post by ipodschun, only using Vayne as my source of instant attacking and Beatrix for Holy imperil instead of Agrias. It worked extremely well once I got the timing down.  It did take a few tries as they liked to jump on one character all at once, but I was able to do it. It would have likely been better with Relm’s Divine Portrait but that’s the first d300 clear I’ve done!
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ceaselessfuture posted:Nothing on the Renewal banners is worth it unless you really love the 15 or Type-0 cast. The only reason I did it was because my 15 and 0 characters already had some relics and I just wanted to make them a bit better. i didnt stay strong  
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rabidsquid posted:i didnt stay strong It uh... it paid off this time
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:The comparison to dailies is irrelevant. What we are comparing is two mythril for that stash. Yeah that's fair. I'd still say it's worth it though for all the other things. OTOH I would be really suprised if they never did this again.
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Tackled the FFX torment on my lunch break. I cleared the d200 and d250. The big guy hit hard so I wasn’t too confident if I could have beaten him on d300 with a similar strategy that I used on Belias. (Note: I didn’t bring Wall) After four tries on the d300...  I now have a fully dived Bartz  This was pure luck though. He swallowed Rikku, and as the fight was winding down he targeted Tidus with Stone Punch. Fortunately Tidus used all three of his OSBs already, and he survived! Bartz then did a full imperiled Woken Water for 35k HP a pop.. and somehow the big guy was still standing with almost no health left! Not for long though as Vayne used a no-delay Ruinga to win
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Orthos the purple tentacle monster in one of the Renewal fights: What a tasty morsel! I can't wait to get me tentacles around her. Okay, I have Terra in my party. It's a VI reference when he grabs her leg on the raft ride I guess, maybe? So he'll attack Terra or one of the other girls in party. Orthos used Tentacle a few turns later. On Cid Raines. I won't judge.
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NGDBSS posted:Hopefully by tomorrow or Wednesday I should finally be done with farming XP from the elite Alexandria Castle Dungeons.
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Nov 2, 2017 08:09
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I've been doing the OK xp dungeon. Up to 5 motes.
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:Orthos the purple tentacle monster in one of the Renewal fights: What a tasty morsel! I can't wait to get me tentacles around her. Don't tease the octopus, kids!
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:Orthos the purple tentacle monster in one of the Renewal fights: What a tasty morsel! I can't wait to get me tentacles around her. As I understand it one of the better bits about his appearance in Mobius was that he implies he'll totally molest a dude too only to come up short when Wol's response is a deadpan, "well come on then, I'm waiting."
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LornMarkus posted:As I understand it one of the better bits about his appearance in Mobius was that he implies he'll totally molest a dude too only to come up short when Wol's response is a deadpan, "well come on then, I'm waiting." WoL sounds very... progressive. 
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Should I hone up Tiamat for Alphinaud's USB? I have enough orbs to get it to rank 1 -> 4 I think. Not sure what would work better since I won't be able to get to Neo Bahamut for some time. (I am sorry to derail molestation chat  )
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I've been using the TerRaines core to do all of the renewal medal condition fights to save time. Works on all fights. LD Terra USB OSB, Valigarmanda and Meltdown. -Hits Fire, Wind, Earth, Ice, Lit -Extremely strong st and AoE DPS LD Raines BSB OSB, MM Chain Waterga -Hits Water, Holy, Dark -Extremely strong st and AoE dps Yuna BSB2/Miracle Veil, Curada, Slowga -Faithga and healing -Hits Slow, a common condition. Can swap to silencega Rikku USB, Multi Break, Bio Grenade -Faithga, defenses -Hits four break conditions and poison (debuff and element) Shelke, Entruster -Freeloader but boosts the DPS further For the sub 90 battles I just run LD Lightning with God Among Men.
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ETB posted:WoL sounds very... progressive. Wol (his default name to be clear, not Warrior of Light) is an extremely amazing character because he literally does not give a gently caress about anything (except Mog).
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Nephrite posted:Wol (his default name to be clear, not Warrior of Light) is an extremely amazing character because he literally does not give a gently caress about anything (except Mog). Sounds like the perfect man. 
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I need to get back to playing Mobius sometime, if only for Wol being a deadpan jackass to everyone.
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Just joining in this after seeing it mentioned in the FFBE thread on occasion and figured I’d play around in it. I’ve been in FFBE for almost a year now and looking for another time waster while the emulator does some farming runs. I just got through the tutorial and collected a bunch of mythril, and want to know what banner to start to use it.
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At this point you may want to wait a few hours until the upcoming FF3 event. Or you could pull on the BRA*BRA banner? In either case you'll have a decent shot at a hastega, and in particular at the Onion Knight BSB. (Be warned, however, that OK is absolute garbage until level 93 when he starts getting wild stat gains, so at this point he'll be mostly useless for you.) Other than that I dunno which banners are particularly good for general use. XV and T0 do have some good stuff that's not as tempered by older dross, at least.
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Finally got a sub-30 magicite run, did it against Fenrir. I was maxing out around 34 seconds with a team of Lulu's USB doing basically all the damage and everyone else feeding her; ended up getting a 28 second run with 2 entrust bots, healer, Lulu and Squall. The RNG was definitely on my side as Squall had the killing blow cmd2 queued up when it cast its physical blink, only for my Wendigo to knock that out with its physical attack. I have a hard time believing I can replicate it until I can get my soul breaks off quicker, likely in the form of Shelke dive. Also crushed a Sealion sub-30 last night...I think 23 seconds, which I think can serve as a blueprint for other elements. My team if anyone has similar stuff: Vanille w/Protectga, Curada, BSB. Full LD Papa w/ Shellga (not even sure I need this), Meltdown, BSB, OSB, Thunder God RM. Full LD Krile w/ Valigarmanda, Chain Firaga, SSB Edward w/ Allegro con Moto, Wrath, USB OK w/ Entrust, Smoldering Fire RW: The boostaga one. Main Magicite: Enkidu No true entrust bots, just have OK help get Papa's BSB up a turn early. The short-casts provided by Edward paired with Thunder God are really significant. I use Papa's OSB to finish the job off but I could easily do it without it.
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The upcoming III event is just the Aria event right? I thought it was the III event after this one that everyone was going nuts over. Although looking at this banner, I am a bit tempted since there seems to be a lot of decent fire stuff on it and that's one of my big weaknesses still. I dunno though, I've got 3 dupes and 1 of them is OK's BSB.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:The upcoming III event is just the Aria event right? I thought it was the III event after this one that everyone was going nuts over. Tonight's banner is indeed the Aria event and not the crazy OK event. If you're just after Refia stuff, do not pull on this one because all of her stuff on this comes back on the super Onion banner.
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Kanos posted:Tonight's banner is indeed the Aria event and not the crazy OK event. If you're just after Refia stuff, do not pull on this one because all of her stuff on this comes back on the super Onion banner. Well poo poo that's good to know, sounds like there's basically zero reason for me to pull on this one then since most of the good fire stuff is Refia's anyway, unless Aria's BSB is just really good.
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The Aria event is the debut of BarElement effects, which is basically the reverse of Imperils. Stacking element damage reduction. Very, very niche in use but can be cool for magicites. Aria's has BarFire. Also Arc gets an offensive white mage burst. While we've had healer bursts with damage components in the past, his is the first to actually go all-in on the concept with an EnHoly on entry.
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The only thing that still sorta tempts me is a shot at Ingus' earth chain, just because chains are so drat rare and seem extremely useful for speeding up magicite clears. Do chains become more common on banners later on? It feels like we only get one every 3 or 4 banners outside of fests.
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I'm stalwartly saving for FFTA. 
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Banner 2 gives Cloud of Darkness a Lightning/Dark chaser to her dark attacks. IIRC, her LD gives yet another chaser. (35% chance for one, not guaranteed)
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i've been farming the FFX torment orbs in 6 ninja turns with just damage from edge - enwater, USB, blink attack, cloud USB RW, blink attack, raging water. requires a 2x proc on raging water but its fun seeing 10 hits ranging from 35000-95000 all at once.
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Man I just looked at the upcoming Torment bosses from JP and we're seriously going to have a third (!) monk mote boss and another machinist and knight one without a second spellblade drop in sight? At least there's another thief one in the pipeline too but jesus, I just want motes for abilities that don't suck rear end.
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Oh yeah, there was a reason why I never cleared that one FFXIV 220. He was as fun to fight as catching AIDS.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Man I just looked at the upcoming Torment bosses from JP and we're seriously going to have a third (!) monk mote boss and another machinist and knight one without a second spellblade drop in sight? What the heck, Dena?
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Newbie Trip Report: Still making my way through Part 1/Classic versions of the renewal dungeons... god there are a lot of these Maybe halfway through FFVI dungeons, I'm not even up to the games that have like 10 different event banners Would it be worth going back to realm dungeons to try and bump up my stamina from 50 to a higher number or just keep on going?
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Is Refia worth Legend Diving if you have her BSB? Does the LM2 stack with Shout? I see it only affects one stat but I’m not sure if LM’s count on that front. I have Chant if that matters.
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Huh, 2/11 Aria BSB and Aria LM. Certainly not what I was expecting but that seems useful!
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BearPlayingGuitar posted:Newbie Trip Report: Still making my way through Part 1/Classic versions of the renewal dungeons... god there are a lot of these I'd try my best to wait a few more days for the Realm Dungeon update, which happens at the start of every month. 1/2 stamina dungeons make it really easy to chain run them.
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ceaselessfuture posted:I'd try my best to wait a few more days for the Realm Dungeon update, which happens at the start of every month. 1/2 stamina dungeons make it really easy to chain run them. Pretty sure the renewal dungeons will be gone by then. But yeah, I'm not sure what to say- the renewal dungeons are great for someone with like a 3-month old account that has gotten to build up stamina and stuff a bit. Not so great for someone with a brand new account. Sorry... Grizzled Patriarch posted:Man I just looked at the upcoming Torment bosses from JP and we're seriously going to have a third (!) monk mote boss and another machinist and knight one without a second spellblade drop in sight? No more spellblade motes until the 3rd anniversary in JP. So 6 more months.
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Schwartzcough posted:Pretty sure the renewal dungeons will be gone by then. But yeah, I'm not sure what to say- the renewal dungeons are great for someone with like a 3-month old account that has gotten to build up stamina and stuff a bit. Not so great for someone with a brand new account. Sorry... Blegh, come on Dena, spellblades only have 1 good skill, at least spread the love. Ah well, I really needed thief motes too so that will have to console me. Still badly need 5* Dex motes too, it's frustrating when you know having a few motes could help you a *lot* with magicite stuff. My poor Shadow has been waiting to finish his dive for over a month now, I'm pretty sure.
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