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Cat Mattress posted:Speaking of memes, I just saw this wonderfully DeviantArtsy hot take:
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mobby_6kl posted:The second one needs to be updated a bit I'm afraid. Not necessarily. You just don't see Russia kicking Ukraine in the shin.
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In 2018 Estonia will be taking a step towards Americanization of the tax system, where everyone needs to hire an accountant. It goes something like this. Those who get less than 14,400 in a year get the highest rate of non-taxable income, so if they remain below that they will get 500 of non-taxable income per month. That amount goes down as yearly income goes up from 14,400 to 25,200. Above that there is no non-taxable income. So I would need to estimate how much I make per year, which can be slightly difficult if there are sources of unexpected income, other than one's own monthly salary. Which can lead to having to pay more later because one received too much non-taxable income. I wonder if I will be selling any of my stocks in 2018? Maybe they have a time traveling machine that I could use.... I guess I'll notify my employer that I want to have my salary taxed fully every month and then file a tax return in spring 2019 and the system will tell me how much the state owes me in total.
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Is this not done per automation based on your current and projected salary? Assuming any retroactive taxes are not artificially inflated by fees or something there is no reason to pay extra in taxes and lose interest etc of that money just because you rather get retroactive tax deduction than retroactive taxes.
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Zudgemud posted:Is this not done per automation based on your current and projected salary? Assuming any retroactive taxes are not artificially inflated by fees or something there is no reason to pay extra in taxes and lose interest etc of that money just because you rather get retroactive tax deduction than retroactive taxes. Oh man, let me tell you about the advanced and modern american tax system.
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Totally Reasonable posted:Oh man, let me tell you about the advanced and modern american tax system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2FWNZhyPLY
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Zudgemud posted:Is this not done per automation based on your current and projected salary? Assuming any retroactive taxes are not artificially inflated by fees or something there is no reason to pay extra in taxes and lose interest etc of that money just because you rather get retroactive tax deduction than retroactive taxes. I guess not. We MUST ask the accounting in our company to set the rate for ourselves, even for every month differently if we wanted to. And then accounts get settled with annual tax declaration, which apparently EVERYONE should be filing, yet I'm sure a bunch of people have never done that and will not if they find that they lose money by doing that. : D and it's not a law that one has to file a tax declaration. I hope this government goes out sooner than later. The interest would be negligible, but on the other hand if I invested that 1200 (12 months * 20% of 500) into stocks/funds and had 1200 ready to pay up by next spring anyway, that would make more sense. Then that money does something for me and not for the state. The state is richer than I am anyway. I still don't like that we are moving away from our "1 minute tax return". In other news, Estonian entrepreneurs are lobbying for higher yearly limits on foreign workforce, while one company fired some illegally striking workers who were unhappy for not having had a raise since pre-Euro years. So they are looking for cheap exploitable work force that they could throw away if necessary. Most locals already have very little knowledge of their rights as a worker, foreigners will have even less. Also the ministry of economy finally admitted that revenue from alcohol excises is a lot lower than expected. Not because people buy less but because they do that in Latvia. It's not like they were not warned by both producers and retailers....
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That's a really strange direction as Estonia seemed to be all about simplifying bureaucracy, making everything easy to deal with online, etc.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:It's pretty good at producing comedy content. Uh, tax deductions work identically to that in all countries
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steinrokkan posted:Uh, tax deductions work identically to that in all countries
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jonnypeh posted:In 2018 Estonia will be taking a step towards Americanization of the tax system, where everyone needs to hire an accountant. Estonia in general seems like it didn't get the memo that shock therapy neoliberalism is actually a hellish nightmare, not good
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Yes, but the tax submission in normal countries is fully automated or requires minimal intervention.  My taxes are automated somewhere in the government, I sometimes have to pay a few bux or get back a few depending on how my wage or situation changed during the year, usually it's around 20-30 bux either way. I get that notice once per year, usually in may, along with how to pay any extra if needed. I remember my parents spending a week or two each year doing their taxes and going through a bunch of folders stacked with bills and poo poo, and then later having quattro pro or excel sheets to fill out and print which shortened the process to about a weekend, to get a few 100 euros back from the state, and gently caress that noise. I'm glad I don't have to do that poo poo, it's a job for computers and accountants, not people.
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As an employee I also have all my taxes automatically deducted, but as a business owner, I would have to do my own accounting for deductible expenses, capital amortization, whatever. Those are not comparable situations.
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The delightful thing about this kind of varying-tax-free- income "solution" is that mathematically, you can get pretty much identical results in a much simpler way. Just increase the flat non-taxable amount and adjust higher tax brackets appropriately, like in any normal, intuitive progressive tax system. The only reason anyone fucks around with the stupid convoluted version is for psychological reasons, ie you're not raising the nominal tax rate and most people can't tell at first glance if they're going to pay more or less. Edit: lmao Estonia has a flat tax. That explains a lot, this is a hidden (mild) progressive tax system, just phrased in a way that's supposed to prevent neoliberals from losing their poo poo over higher brackets for Job Creators and The Hardworking Middle Class Guildencrantz fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Nov 2, 2017 |
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Poland has legalised medical dank. 
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Just enough to accommodate the politicians and extended families  Gotta be imported and the Netherlands for example only allow exports of up to 30 kilos per year or something.
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Pierogi posted:Just enough to accommodate the politicians and extended families Can't you import weed from some U.S. state or some other place where it is legal?
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Practice will show what's possible and what's not. It's legal to bring weed bought abroad yourself, for example.
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After a year of flying under the radar, Tele2 finally got around to blocking SA in Russia. 
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Pierogi posted:Practice will show what's possible and what's not. It's legal to bring weed bought abroad yourself, for example. I'm the Poland-Netherlands motorway.
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Well you have to have a prescription first. I get the feeling it's gonna be a little more complicated than "ow, my chronic pain!"
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Can't you import weed from some U.S. state or some other place where it is legal? It would be exceedingly illegal for any company in a US state to export it so I doubt that would happen. Anyone involved with such a thing would be risking federal trafficking charges, not just a loss of their state marijuana license. Edit: Companies in California can't even sell their product in Washington, or vice versa.
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Chadderbox posted:It would be exceedingly illegal for any company in a US state to export it so I doubt that would happen. Anyone involved with such a thing would be risking federal trafficking charges, not just a loss of their state marijuana license. drat, I forgot it's illegal on federal level.
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Guildencrantz posted:Edit: lmao Estonia has a flat tax. That explains a lot, this is a hidden (mild) progressive tax system, just phrased in a way that's supposed to prevent neoliberals from losing their poo poo over higher brackets for Job Creators and The Hardworking Middle Class Yep, flat 20% tax rate. Supposedly. Because that's not the only thing hidden, we also have social tax of 33%. If I made 1000 euros gross, it would cost my employer 1338 and 466,80 goes to the state. We don't have many neoliberals here, the Reform party which is usually seen as entrepreneur-friendly party really was not. We have about six bigger parties and most of them take the "social welfare state"-approach, meaning more taxes and taxing the vices more (alcohol and tobacco, even sugar tax) to give more social benefits. But as for the Job Creators, income tax on dividends is 20%, if paid out regularly every year it goes down to 14%. Came into effect this year. edit: I believe we are one of the few countries where a parent can stay at home for total of 435 days a and every month receive the average salary of previous 6 months preceding the maternal leave. There is no upper limit. jonnypeh fucked around with this message at 12:43 on Nov 3, 2017 |
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Not all elections in Visegrαd group countries end catastrophically. Slovak voters in regional elections rejected neo-nazis and corrupted ruling party candidates. https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...4f6e_story.html
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Have a merry revolution, y'all!
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Speaking of revolutions, Estonia is on it's way to new socialist revolution, because the current government is going wild with spending and forgets that we are not rich like Sweden. In addition to "free" public transport in Tallinn, we're now getting it all over the country for all subsidized county bus lines, with money spent on subsidies increasing 1.6x. There are also public transport companies that do not benefit from subsidies and will have to survive on their own. This really is just a go at bribing the voters, especially in Tallinn. Which opposition party will include in their promises to end this "free public transport" joke? None. Next year's budget will be in deficit, previously accumulated reserves have run out and EU development funds will diminish and eventually disappear. And for all that spending, healthcare will still run short. But there is always more money for a subsidized municipal store, municipal cooperative bank, and of course the same old municipal TV and propaganda papers that now lie to every Russian reader in the light of recent Gemalto chip scandal that our national ID cards are a failure. The centre party won elections in Tallinn with 40 seats out of 39, they did not find any willing partners to form a coalition with so they chose the Greens, who did not get any seats and gave one of them the position of deputy mayor. Then bribed some opposition party members and gave them too some cozy positions. I almost want the reform party back, but without the previous PM.
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Lichtenstein posted:Have a merry revolution, y'all! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Z8Bq35d0k let's hope that our great-grandchildren can celebrate the bicentennial in
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I learned something about my hometown today that's both and  . We have the first S.O.S. phone line for women in Romani (language) in Europe.
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Happy Independence Day, fellow Polish goons https://twitter.com/Exen/status/929388176233418753
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Fatal Error posted:Happy Independence Day, fellow Polish goons This will never not feel like seeing jewish nazis 
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:This will never not feel like seeing jewish nazis They do exist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrol_36 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israels-nightmare-homegrown-neo-nazis-in-the-holy-land-396392.html
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Fatal Error posted:Happy Independence Day, fellow Polish goons 'Europe will be white, or there will be no people left living there' Wait a second, if you think that brown immigrants are going to take over, then how will there be no peop- ah, you don't see them as people, I get it, I get it.
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Those guys sure are sporting some nice hijabs. I thought they were against that kind of clothes?Paladinus posted:'Europe will be white, or there will be no people left living there' No, see, what will happen is the arab people will gently caress everything up and turn it into a wasteland desert, same as what happened with their previous home. Which we certainly didn't have anything to do with 
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Fatal Error posted:Happy Independence Day, fellow Polish goons Not the parade I would expect for an independence day. What happened with Polish and Russian folks throwing molotov cocktails at each other's embassies? https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/929451829657853952
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So Russia or perhaps Kazakhstan has let rip a big ruthenium-106 fart. It's not believed to come from a nuclear power plant because other radioactive elements haven't been found.
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