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The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/926076191827783680

lolwut

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boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
If we destroy the world and make it uninhabitable then humans won’t be able to sexually assault each other.

bird cooch
Jan 19, 2007
My plan to sell my Seattle area home in the spring and move to Texas for a lower cost of living might have to speed up.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

The body has a way of shutting down rape when the lights are on

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

CommieGIR posted:

Expensive is defined by the ability to actually qualify for the loans and pay off the house at a local income rate. Most areas where housing is inexpensive requires you to either drive long commutes to seek a job that'll allow you to afford said loans.

What the gently caress is this DnD bullshit. You mean mean the housing market generally tracks local income? No loving poo poo, no one is using the word "expensive" the way you're trying to here.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

More lights = less crime

He could literally have just stopped there and been correct but he had to rope sexual assault into it for some dumb loving reason.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Jarmak posted:

What the gently caress is this DnD bullshit. You mean mean the housing market generally tracks local income? No loving poo poo, no one is using the word "expensive" the way you're trying to here.

So please demonstrate for us how the housing bubble is only an urban issue. Thanks in advance.

Also: chill the gently caress out.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
My point was that taking away from takehome pay on a demographic that not only is up to their eyeballs in debt but that debt is securitized and put on the market doesn't seem like the best course of action.

Vasudus fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Nov 2, 2017

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

Zeroisanumber posted:

I know a couple in Seattle who bought their 900 square foot house for $160k back in 2004, it's worth close to a half-million now. This is a big "gently caress you!" to coastal states and I don't think the GOP shitheads from those states are going to go along with it.

Removing mortgage interest as well as state and local tax deductions like they've also floated will absolutely murder Republican suburbanites in the NY/NJ area. Coincidentally the electoral college means their votes are useless to Trump 2020.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

If you loving idiots crash the housing market because of Orangegropenfuehrer's incoherent twitter ramblings I will be really pissed off I'm selling my condo early next year DON'T gently caress YOUR NEIGHBOR IN THE rear end AMERICA.

LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014

I'm gonna be loving pissed if the elimination of the student loan interest deduction goes through. gently caress

Man when that bubble pops it's gonna be fun.

Poppyseed Poundcake
Feb 23, 2007
Is this tax plan good for those of us that already own several properties without a mortgage?

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Clovis is backing out of his nomination to head up AG, since he's probably in over his head with Russia. Never mind that he doesn't have a science degree of any kind.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Casimir Radon posted:

Clovis is backing out of his nomination to head up AG, since he's probably in over his head with Russia. Never mind that he doesn't have a science degree of any kind.

Like that'll stop em. Their EPA anarchist is doing his job well without one.

Ceiling fan
Dec 26, 2003

I really like ceilings.
Dead Man’s Band

Poppyseed Poundcake posted:

Is this tax plan good for those of us that already own several properties without a mortgage?

Hell no, it caps the property tax deduction at $10,000.

Edit: lower middle class will be OKish. They are pretty much poor already. The rest of the middle class is getting hosed.

Ceiling fan fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Nov 2, 2017

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Casimir Radon posted:

Clovis is backing out of his nomination to head up AG, since he's probably in over his head with Russia. Never mind that he doesn't have a science degree of any kind.

Whew. Pruitt alone is bad enough. This would have been a really bad thing as someone who works in this industry.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
This tax plan is only good for people with incomes in the hundreds of millions plus and is a massive funnel up.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
lol housing is a loving bubble where like 98% of the population lives

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
What if someone incorporated a small business and moved the house on to company books? Would the tax cut benefit a move like that?

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

MA-Horus posted:

If you loving idiots crash the housing market because of Orangegropenfuehrer's incoherent twitter ramblings I will be really pissed off I'm selling my condo early next year DON'T gently caress YOUR NEIGHBOR IN THE rear end AMERICA.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

MA-Horus posted:

If you loving idiots crash the housing market because of Orangegropenfuehrer's incoherent twitter ramblings I will be really pissed off I'm selling my condo early next year DON'T gently caress YOUR NEIGHBOR IN THE rear end AMERICA.

Isn't the Canadian housing market already well into bubble mode right now? Like even worse than 2006 in the States?

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
Its really loving expensive right now yes.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Its really loving expensive right now yes.

But obviously its only an Urban problem, right?

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

psydude posted:

Isn't the Canadian housing market already well into bubble mode right now? Like even worse than 2006 in the States?

Yes but according to the government Canada Is Different.

And our mortgages are all recourses so... LOL.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

psydude posted:

Isn't the Canadian housing market already well into bubble mode right now? Like even worse than 2006 in the States?

Yeah and a similar phenomena is driving it on the west coast up there as well!

http://vancouversun.com/news/national/exclusive-how-b-c-casinos-are-used-to-launder-millions-in-drug-cash

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Oh yeah it’s loving crazy I’m waiting for the bubble to burst but if it’s gonna burst I want it to be Canadian hubris that does it.

MADE IN CANADA QUALITY

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

MA-Horus posted:

Oh yeah it’s loving crazy I’m waiting for the bubble to burst but if it’s gonna burst I want it to be Canadian hubris that does it.

MADE IN CANADA QUALITY

I'm also waiting but Im also sick of renting. I'm trying to buy a house basically solo cause I took enough of my parents money when they supported during my errrm bad time and I'm single so it's all on me

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

My sister sold her semi-detached 1700 sq ft 3bd/1ba with a finished basement early October, it's a nice place, backs onto the Humber river. It's what people would have considered a nice starter home about 15 years ago.

They bought it for 650 back in 2012. It went on the market for 799. It sold within a day (with 12 viewings and 5 offers) for 980.

A million buckaroos for a starter home.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

MA-Horus posted:

Oh yeah it’s loving crazy I’m waiting for the bubble to burst but if it’s gonna burst I want it to be Canadian hubris that does it.

MADE IN CANADA QUALITY

I think that it'll come from multiple places at once, but "collapse-inducing dieoffs in the 45-64 fentanyl junkie age bracket" is going to be one of the early contributors since it'll pinch off a good part of the drug money pumping the RE markets in nearly every west coast urban area from San Diego to Vancouver. When the drug money stops, the launderers end up falling below the critical mass needed to also wash the inflows directly from China (ever since the Tianjin fire they haven't had much luck maintaining the car broker industry) so they stop serving as EB-5 chaperones and homebuyer tour bus operators (yeah sure they just happen to stop in Irvine for 3 days on their way to Disney, no real reason) which means there isn't ground cover for the LA fashion district launderers to stash THEIR drug money and the shady Richmond freight operators disappear overnight because their sugar daddies go into hiding, and then the Armenians lose their biggest secret partners which means the consumer credit market flatlines overnight because instead of defaulting 3 years from now the Armenians all start bouncing checks right away, which means they have no money to pay the inland meth gangs the protection money for their trucks and then you see collapses of home prices in places like Modesto and Turlock.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

MA-Horus posted:

My sister sold her semi-detached 1700 sq ft 3bd/1ba with a finished basement early October, it's a nice place, backs onto the Humber river. It's what people would have considered a nice starter home about 15 years ago.

They bought it for 650 back in 2012. It went on the market for 799. It sold within a day (with 12 viewings and 5 offers) for 980.

A million buckaroos for a starter home.

I don't live near the area but I work a lot in Brampton and all the sub division advertisements say "starting in the low 800's!" low my loving rear end.

There's 800 homes going up nearby my yard and they were ALL SOLD before they even had the topsoil removed. Unless you got a lot of help or live in the boonies it's hard to get your first home right now

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Hot Karl Marx posted:

I don't live near the area but I work a lot in Brampton and all the sub division advertisements say "starting in the low 800's!" low my loving rear end.

There's 800 homes going up nearby my yard and they were ALL SOLD before they even had the topsoil removed. Unless you got a lot of help or live in the boonies it's hard to get your first home right now

My coworker lives in Calgary and it's cheap as poo poo apparently. Maybe you should move out there and become a hermit.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

FAUXTON posted:

I think that it'll come from multiple places at once, but "collapse-inducing dieoffs in the 45-64 fentanyl junkie age bracket" is going to be one of the early contributors since it'll pinch off a good part of the drug money pumping the RE markets in nearly every west coast urban area from San Diego to Vancouver. When the drug money stops, the launderers end up falling below the critical mass needed to also wash the inflows directly from China (ever since the Tianjin fire they haven't had much luck maintaining the car broker industry) so they stop serving as EB-5 chaperones and homebuyer tour bus operators (yeah sure they just happen to stop in Irvine for 3 days on their way to Disney, no real reason) which means there isn't ground cover for the LA fashion district launderers to stash THEIR drug money and the shady Richmond freight operators disappear overnight because their sugar daddies go into hiding, and then the Armenians lose their biggest secret partners which means the consumer credit market flatlines overnight because instead of defaulting 3 years from now the Armenians all start bouncing checks right away, which means they have no money to pay the inland meth gangs the protection money for their trucks and then you see collapses of home prices in places like Modesto and Turlock.

Wait what? The fashion district is laundering Chinese drug money through Armenian biker gangs?

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

FAUXTON posted:

I think that it'll come from multiple places at once, but "collapse-inducing dieoffs in the 45-64 fentanyl junkie age bracket" is going to be one of the early contributors since it'll pinch off a good part of the drug money pumping the RE markets in nearly every west coast urban area from San Diego to Vancouver. When the drug money stops, the launderers end up falling below the critical mass needed to also wash the inflows directly from China (ever since the Tianjin fire they haven't had much luck maintaining the car broker industry) so they stop serving as EB-5 chaperones and homebuyer tour bus operators (yeah sure they just happen to stop in Irvine for 3 days on their way to Disney, no real reason) which means there isn't ground cover for the LA fashion district launderers to stash THEIR drug money and the shady Richmond freight operators disappear overnight because their sugar daddies go into hiding, and then the Armenians lose their biggest secret partners which means the consumer credit market flatlines overnight because instead of defaulting 3 years from now the Armenians all start bouncing checks right away, which means they have no money to pay the inland meth gangs the protection money for their trucks and then you see collapses of home prices in places like Modesto and Turlock.

can you repeat this, but english

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

FAUXTON posted:

I think that it'll come from multiple places at once, but "collapse-inducing dieoffs in the 45-64 fentanyl junkie age bracket" is going to be one of the early contributors since it'll pinch off a good part of the drug money pumping the RE markets in nearly every west coast urban area from San Diego to Vancouver. When the drug money stops, the launderers end up falling below the critical mass needed to also wash the inflows directly from China (ever since the Tianjin fire they haven't had much luck maintaining the car broker industry) so they stop serving as EB-5 chaperones and homebuyer tour bus operators (yeah sure they just happen to stop in Irvine for 3 days on their way to Disney, no real reason) which means there isn't ground cover for the LA fashion district launderers to stash THEIR drug money and the shady Richmond freight operators disappear overnight because their sugar daddies go into hiding, and then the Armenians lose their biggest secret partners which means the consumer credit market flatlines overnight because instead of defaulting 3 years from now the Armenians all start bouncing checks right away, which means they have no money to pay the inland meth gangs the protection money for their trucks and then you see collapses of home prices in places like Modesto and Turlock.

I want you to have made this up but I feel like it's true.

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

FAUXTON posted:

I think that it'll come from multiple places at once, but "collapse-inducing dieoffs in the 45-64 fentanyl junkie age bracket" is going to be one of the early contributors since it'll pinch off a good part of the drug money pumping the RE markets in nearly every west coast urban area from San Diego to Vancouver. When the drug money stops, the launderers end up falling below the critical mass needed to also wash the inflows directly from China (ever since the Tianjin fire they haven't had much luck maintaining the car broker industry) so they stop serving as EB-5 chaperones and homebuyer tour bus operators (yeah sure they just happen to stop in Irvine for 3 days on their way to Disney, no real reason) which means there isn't ground cover for the LA fashion district launderers to stash THEIR drug money and the shady Richmond freight operators disappear overnight because their sugar daddies go into hiding, and then the Armenians lose their biggest secret partners which means the consumer credit market flatlines overnight because instead of defaulting 3 years from now the Armenians all start bouncing checks right away, which means they have no money to pay the inland meth gangs the protection money for their trucks and then you see collapses of home prices in places like Modesto and Turlock.

if it wasn't for your background in anti-money laundering, i'd swear you got this from the radio beacons implanted in your dental fillings

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

MA-Horus posted:

Nah I'm willing to bet it's additional support for the arching above the grand gallery. There's voids above the King's chamber too for pressure relief on the granite slabs

Even though Egypt is a bit of a shithole I recommend that everyone who has even a small interest in ancient history go see it. Khufu's pyramid is legit the most impressive thing I've ever seen and the king's chamber is otherworldly. That whole room seems to just absorb light. If you get there early before the tourist busses show up and get inside when there's only a guard, go over to the sarcophagus, put your hands on it and close your eyes. It's the closest thing I've ever experienced to an out-of-body experience.

I appreciated the post - AV combo.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

FAUXTON posted:

I think that it'll come from multiple places at once, but "collapse-inducing dieoffs in the 45-64 fentanyl junkie age bracket" is going to be one of the early contributors since it'll pinch off a good part of the drug money pumping the RE markets in nearly every west coast urban area from San Diego to Vancouver. When the drug money stops, the launderers end up falling below the critical mass needed to also wash the inflows directly from China (ever since the Tianjin fire they haven't had much luck maintaining the car broker industry) so they stop serving as EB-5 chaperones and homebuyer tour bus operators (yeah sure they just happen to stop in Irvine for 3 days on their way to Disney, no real reason) which means there isn't ground cover for the LA fashion district launderers to stash THEIR drug money and the shady Richmond freight operators disappear overnight because their sugar daddies go into hiding, and then the Armenians lose their biggest secret partners which means the consumer credit market flatlines overnight because instead of defaulting 3 years from now the Armenians all start bouncing checks right away, which means they have no money to pay the inland meth gangs the protection money for their trucks and then you see collapses of home prices in places like Modesto and Turlock.

I feel like this is somehow true even if it sounds like the ramblings of a meth addled California republican.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

MA-Horus posted:

Oh yeah it’s loving crazy I’m waiting for the bubble to burst but if it’s gonna burst I want it to be Canadian hubris that does it.

MADE IN CANADA QUALITY

I'm hoping the bubble bursts a couple months after the gnarly huge raise I've been told to expect next month so I can say goodbye to renting. Or at least so rental prices go down. $1300-1500 for a 1br/1ba apartment is beyond retarded. I moved to the island to get away from the big city Vancouver prices, and they followed me here.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Totally waiting for the bubble to pop in Colorado....

Gonna be a while.

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RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Totally waiting for the bubble to pop in Colorado....

Gonna be a while.

drat potheads

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