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Also frasiers women are wildly inconsistent. I mean first they set him up with judging amy, then they make him pine for what looks like a chewed-up barbie doll named reagan
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I think Grammar's real life obsession with blonde bimbos started bleeding in to the character
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ditty bout my clitty posted:Also frasiers women are wildly inconsistent. I mean first they set him up with judging amy, then they make him pine for what looks like a chewed-up barbie doll named reagan The heart wants what the heart wants.
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Nov 2, 2017 16:45
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After Lilith it's not too shocking he veered to the other extreme.
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Nov 2, 2017 17:02
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Faye. Faye is who he should have stayed with.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:After Lilith it's not too shocking he veered to the other extreme. But he never dated Dr. Mary 
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Nov 2, 2017 17:20
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I saw the episode where the blonde woman from Cheers shows up and causes mild PTSD in Frasier from when she apparently left him at the altar, but I never saw the original episode with that or the context leading up to it, what happened there?
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Inescapable Duck posted:I saw the episode where the blonde woman from Cheers shows up and causes mild PTSD in Frasier from when she apparently left him at the altar, but I never saw the original episode with that or the context leading up to it, what happened there? Fraiser's introduction on Cheers was as a therapist for her, the original female lead, after she had some kind of meltdown and ended up in a mental hospital. Then his first season arc was about them getting married and she left him at the altar since the show was really pushing a 'will they/won't they' thing with her and Ted Danson. Fraiser ended up sticking around and becoming part of the cast.
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Nov 2, 2017 17:33
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Huh. Where's his relationship with Lillith fit into this timeline?
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Inescapable Duck posted:Huh. Where's his relationship with Lillith fit into this timeline? The blonde hooks them up because she noticed an attraction between them. Lilith and Frasier are together and pretty happy through all of Cheers. That's when his son is born as well.
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Solice Kirsk posted:The blonde hooks them up because she noticed an attraction between them. Lilith and Frasier are together and pretty happy through all of Cheers. That's when his son is born as well. Well, except when she leaves him to live in a dumb biodome with some random dude. But it ends with them getting back together. Frasier retcons or modifies a ton of stuff from Cheers though. Like his father was dead, he had no brother, his mother was a psychopath, he spent like a decade hanging out at a dive bar every night...
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Zore posted:Well, except when she leaves him to live in a dumb biodome with some random dude. But it ends with them getting back together. Frasier retcons Frasier. Martin says he never had a brother and then he hangs out with his brother and his Greek wife for one episode.
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Nov 2, 2017 18:10
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Zore posted:Fraiser's introduction on Cheers was as a therapist for her, the original female lead, after she had some kind of meltdown and ended up in a mental hospital. Then his first season arc was about them getting married and she left him at the altar since the show was really pushing a 'will they/won't they' thing with her and Ted Danson. Frasier kind of omits how much baggage there was between the two. Niles asks if Frasier had ever let her know how she made him feel, and he was like "well, kinda". But on Cheers, he made it extremely clear over several episodes that she had basically destroyed his well-being, if not his life. Actually if anyone likes Frasier I recommend they watch the first five seasons of Cheers. It's really good and holds up like a clever stage play (as do a lot of the best episodes of Frasier).
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Zore posted:
I think they lampshaded that in one of the Cheers guest appearances on Frasier, asking why Frasier never mentioned them or something like that.
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Reminder that it's canon that Frasier dies and his will is lost and instead they read out Sam's sperm count to Lilith and Freddy.
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Zore posted:Well, except when she leaves him to live in a dumb biodome with some random dude. But it ends with them getting back together. Cheers was not a dive 
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Solice Kirsk posted:Faye. Faye is who he should have stayed with. Judging Amy, yes
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Cheers is great, but eventually everyone turns in to a self-caricature. RIP Coach
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Solice Kirsk posted:Reminder that it's canon that Frasier dies and his will is lost and instead they read out Sam's sperm count to Lilith and Freddy. That drat bar.
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Nov 3, 2017 03:25
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A producer of Cheers said in an interview that the writers purposely gave Kelsey Grammer the weakest lines to see if he could make them funny and he always did.
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The storyline with Roz hating Frasier’s girlfriend and making him choose between them is really weird and out of character. There’s lots of B plots around Daphne’s mum though, so it’s when the show had gone way downhill.
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SEX BURRITO posted:The storyline with Roz hating Frasier’s girlfriend and making him choose between them is really weird and out of character. Apparently that season was written by the B team and they were aiming to hook Roz and Frasier up which is why the next season starts with Roz already having quit that job and telling Niles in no uncertain term she has no romantic feelings towards Frasier
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Remember when Dr Cox was Niles' old high school bully? And then a jarringly chill plumber.
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Did Ted Dansen ever show up on Frasier? I love that guy!
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Kelp Me! posted:Did Ted Dansen ever show up on Frasier? I love that guy! One episode in season 2.
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Never watched Cheers but based on the way Frasier and such reacted when the cast of Cheers showed up they all had really gross, unpleasant and unhealthy relationships with each other right
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they were alcoholics who spent nearly every night of their lives in a bar
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Almost everyone showed up except for Kirstie Alley because of the whole Scientology not liking psychiatry, and Coach because... well... he was dead.
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mojo1701a posted:Almost everyone showed up except for Kirstie Alley because of the whole Scientology not liking psychiatry, and Coach because... well... he was dead. Didn't Coach die before Frasier even showed up? I think he was gone after Season 2 and Frasier first appeared season 3 Also yeah one of the ongoing themes of Cheers is that no matter who you are, if you spend every night at a bar you're probably some kinda hosed up
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I've been watching through Cheers lately and it's fairly watchable, but I'd skip season one. I just could not do it. Far too melodramatic. Not that the later seasons aren't, but S1 pours it on even thicker.
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I've been binging this on Netflix lately and holy poo poo, they drink a lot. Like, these are all functioning alcoholics. Sherry every 2 minutes.
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WampaLord posted:I've been binging this on Netflix lately and holy poo poo, they drink a lot. Like, these are all functioning alcoholics. Sherry every 2 minutes. well kelsey was going to drink no matter what so they just wrote it into the show
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Calaveron posted:Apparently that season was written by the B team and they were aiming to hook Roz and Frasier up which is why the next season starts with Roz already having quit that job and telling Niles in no uncertain term she has no romantic feelings towards Frasier Aaah makes sense. For a few episodes Roz was doing that sitcom thing of ‘I have feelings for you, but am going to not subtly mask it by getting mad at the person you’re dating’. It seemed a bit cliche for Frasier. I like that she literally walked back into her job. I can imagine the poor writer who had to quickly undo the damage of the last season.
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all i can imagine ismaskenfreiheit posted:LE CIGAR VOLANT
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WampaLord posted:I've been binging this on Netflix lately and holy poo poo, they drink a lot. Like, these are all functioning alcoholics. Sherry every 2 minutes. They take lots of pills, too. Also driving after drinking.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:They take lots of pills, too. Also driving after drinking. And I don't really wanna be that guy, but there's a whooooole shitload of "lol trans people!" jokes that haven't aged super great.
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Really? The only one I can remember is when the big guy who writes the bad poetry misunderstood "Niles is abroad now."
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Solice Kirsk posted:Really? The only one I can remember is when the big guy who writes the bad poetry misunderstood "Niles is abroad now." Whenever they want a go to analogy for "whacko" it's usually a snide reference to a man who wants to become a woman or vice versa. Lots of gay panic stuff too, but hey, that's the 90s. Still a hilarious show, making fun of snobs is timeless.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Really? The only one I can remember is when the big guy who writes the bad poetry misunderstood "Niles is abroad now." That’s NOT funny Sincerely, A humourless person
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