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I don't think it will be as big a problem as you imagine. Anything but the most simplistic Photoshops in the most ideal conditions will usually fail forensic analysis. Video is far more complex. The only problem is really the masses that are morons and believe everything they see or hear, but you don't even need an elaborate ruse to sway popular opinion. Just saying something is so is enough to convince them - no evidence required.
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Maluco Marinero posted:Usually in aggregate though to a history of wrongdoing, which is unsuitable for the kind of events video is best at. If it was ever possible to doctor video convincingly easily rather than just ‘lose the dash cam videos’ we’d be up for trouble. That said though, with everybody carrying a video camera in their pocket, it just becomes about proof in aggregate rather than singular (just like documentation). I'm pessimistic enough to predict that any edited video the police produce will be accepted as the unedited truth, and any contradicting videos taken by other people at the scene being treated as a conspiracy against the police. (In fact, I may have even just described the status quo.)
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actionjackson posted:Also what's the deal with Sam Altman? People seem to worship him but I don't see how he's different than any other startup bro I know a Labor Organizer specialized in Tech. She said Altman flew her to SF and brainstormed a SV-style approach to employee organizations, promised at least hundreds of thousands of $, then stopped communicating. Plans were made on her end around the funding but he was MIA. When she finally followed up, Altman’s secretary said his focus changes often and he probably just forgot about the whole idea.
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From the above link: “There were guys literally carving parts with dremels,” one person said."
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Arsenic Lupin posted:From the above link: “There were guys literally carving parts with dremels,” one person said." someone alert the hipsters to these artisinal, hand crafted, small batch locally sourced electric cars
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He's talking about poo poo he's just seen as a guest of Adobe's MAX conference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzBZWBht02I Last year they had Jordan Peele and when he was genuinely scared about VoCo (the experimental tool for replacing spoken phrases in recordings - of course they assure that the publicly available version will put watermarks in the audio), the audience assumed he was in comedian mode and just laughed along  (In other news, my copy of Disrupted arrived today  )
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Does it even really matter anymore? Factual reporting and honest opinions are exotic designer drugs for weirdos even today. Its fake news and hot takes all the way down already. You don’t need to photoshop poo poo, just grab a stock photo from some unrelated event five years ago and label it as whatever and by the time some nerd gets around to image search it to find the original source everyone else has already taken it at face value and moved on. The damage is already done. The thing is, you can’t fight desinformation with truth. It just doesn’t work. Just repeat the message enough and even the most skeptical people will start to accept that the goalposts have moved. Even things that are clearly presented as fiction easily bleed into the perception of reality - we’re just that bad at remembering things accurately. The rational, fact-based view of reality is a myth, an impossibility, because while we may be able to tell fact from fiction today, our world view is formed from all the preconceived notions in the back of our head, and now that we have the internet those are constantly being massaged by all the poo poo passing by in your Twitter feed, no matter if it’s RT or Mother Jones or even dril. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Nov 3, 2017 |
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There's like 60 million people who believe Planned Parenthood is 100% about making billions of dollars for George Soros out of selling aborted babies because that one idiot clumsily edited together 50 different people at PP saying things that vaguely sound like that if you really want to believe they're saying that.
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Turns out the internet really was a mistake and now it’s gonna kill us all Lol
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Absurd Alhazred posted:You should @ him about it. I think fishmech should @ a lot of people about a lot of things. Pleas fishmech be Twitter’s fact checker.
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The marquee tech companies (e.g., Amazon, Apple, Google etc.) have over the past week reported in blockbuster quarterly earnings as a continuation of 5 years of good financials. I don't see the gravy train ending anytime soon for people working for the flagships.
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SCOh YEAH!
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jesus loving christ will that case never die?
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Condiv posted:jesus loving christ will that case never die? Till the stars fall from the sky on you and I.
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Some random support support drone shut down Trump's account for a second. https://twitter.com/TwitterGov/status/926267806261407744
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Kobayashi posted:Some random support support drone shut down Trump's account for a second. i'm the blatant cya statement itt ( in this tweet) At most they can make a whitelist of ~important people~ accounts that only middle management drones are allowed to ban (free lowtax!), but it's not like they can stop an employee from making a mess on the last day before quitting their poo poo job.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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I hope the person who shut Trump's twitter down for 11 minutes gets on the #resistance version of wingnut welfare.
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evobatman posted:I'm just waiting for a Tesla employee to be fired from Tesla because their Tesla broke down on the way to work at Tesla, and they couldn't make it in on time. can tesla workers even afford teslas
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I'm sure plenty of the white-collar workers can, yeah. But those probably aren't the type to be fired for getting to work late.
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Condiv posted:jesus loving christ will that case never die? the lawyers, who'd foolishly signed up on contingency, bought the corpse in the faint hope of ever seeing a penny, because sunk costs aren't a fallacy
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Analytic Engine posted:I know a Labor Organizer specialized in Tech. She said Altman flew her to SF and brainstormed a SV-style approach to employee organizations, promised at least hundreds of thousands of $, then stopped communicating. Plans were made on her end around the funding but he was MIA. When she finally followed up, Altman’s secretary said his focus changes often and he probably just forgot about the whole idea. I'd been assuming that I missed the meeting where it was decided Altman was a guru: there was that recent longform article about him where he came across as some unstoppable expertise machine but his "credentials" were glossed over. I mean, Paul Graham has actually done things so Altman must be the same, right? And now he just seems to be a guy with a massive case of Engineers Syndrome.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Here is the scary thing to me. Right now, a lot of evidence from videophones is proving (although not, alas, in prosecutions) that police brutality against black people exists. As soon as there's a video equivalent of Photoshop, those cellphone videos are automatically discredited, unless streamed to a reliable provider with a timestamp. On a related note, there's a growing problem of Youtube and Facebook taking down these videos when they trigger a "disturbing content" filter. And that prevents prosecutions from even being a possibility. (Or other stuff like truth and reconciliation processes, or public shaming, or what have you.) https://theintercept.com/2017/11/02/war-crimes-youtube-facebook-syria-rohingya/
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Ponsonby Britt posted:On a related note, there's a growing problem of Youtube and Facebook taking down these videos when they trigger a "disturbing content" filter. And that prevents prosecutions from even being a possibility. (Or other stuff like truth and reconciliation processes, or public shaming, or what have you.)  Google already caves like wet tissue paper when it comes to bullshit DMCA corporate takedowns on Youtube, whattya think they're gonna do when actual law enforcement start making demands.
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And it already doesn't really matter. Phone cams and bodycams mean we have plenty of hard evidence that we didn't before, but the perpetrators are still allowed to go scot free without consequences, because the problem was never about a lack of evidence, but white supremacy.
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SulphagneSocialist posted:And it already doesn't really matter. Phone cams and bodycams mean we have plenty of hard evidence that we didn't before, but the perpetrators are still allowed to go scot free without consequences, because the problem was never about a lack of evidence, but white supremacy. It's a little more complicated than this when law enforcement gets involved.
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That's just loving weird because that's not what other people are for. Like your wife does other stuff. It's good that she has thoughts and feelings.
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Pick posted:That's just loving weird because that's not what other people are for. Like your wife does other stuff. It's good that she has thoughts and feelings. Don't be ablist now.
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Neat, a pre-mortem on the first sex robot company to go bankrupt.
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How many unsecured online enabled cameras and microphones are sex robots going to have built-in?
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TF2 HAT MINING RIG posted:How many unsecured online enabled cameras and microphones are sex robots going to have built-in? 69
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More amusing than any misguided claims that Silicon Valley is overrated are the many attempts at branding every random outcropping of the tech industry as Silicon [Whatever]. In Oregon, we have the "Silicon Forest", which even as an Oregonian I'm very ehhhhhh about. Any state with more than a couple million people is going to produce some tech companies, and they're naturally going to cluster around whatever the biggest population center is. It's nothing to write home about. The attempt to label Eugene as the "Silicon Shire" is just embarrassing. You had one semiconductor factory, guys, and it closed a decade ago. The entire tech industry combined employs fewer people there than the University of Oregon. (Though I suppose "A Surprising Number of Homegrown Terrorists" wouldn't have been as appealing a nickname.)
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Investors are trying to get Charleston, SC branded as "Silicon Harbor." 
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Doggles posted:Investors are trying to get Charleston, SC branded as "Silicon Harbor." Curvature of Earth posted:The attempt to label Eugene as the "Silicon Shire" is just embarrassing. You had one semiconductor factory, guys, and it closed a decade ago. The entire tech industry combined employs fewer people there than the University of Oregon. (Though I suppose "A Surprising Number of Homegrown Terrorists" wouldn't have been as appealing a nickname.)
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I challenge you to find something this embarrassing about one of your "tech" regions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHV4wk1cXjs
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I challenge you to find something this embarrassing about one of your "tech" regions: Silicon Fence.
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Pick posted:Silicon Fence. Don't pee on the Silicon Fence.
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Silicon Suburb. It has two meanings.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I challenge you to find something this embarrassing about one of your "tech" regions: Oh, oh, that poor dear. Oh no. Oh that poor city. I couldn't even watch some of it. I could just imagine him reading the scripts for his performance a few days beforehand and trying to figure out how to make it work.
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