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InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
On a more general sport chat, I always find it odd when things that are judged are called sports, rather than competitions. To me, if the victory conditions aren't an objective, measured metric, it doesn't... count. You lifted more. You did it faster. You did it in fewer shots. You knocked them down and they didn't get back up. And so on. If it's down to someone's judgement of how well you did, how do you know the winner is the best at the sport?

It's like I regard powerlifting as a sport, but bodybuilding isn't, even though the activities done to make you better at it are very similar. Mountain bike races (DH/XC) or trials, yes. Dirt jumping, no.

But I don't seem to mind when something that would be a sport is done noncompetitively is called a sport, even though my mindset is it's just what you do because you like it.

I also don't get how people think that not calling something a sport is somehow a lese majeste problem.

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Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



fridge corn posted:

shut up morrissey

:golfclap: Corn.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003






spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

InitialDave posted:

On a more general sport chat, I always find it odd when things that are judged are called sports, rather than competitions. To me, if the victory conditions aren't an objective, measured metric, it doesn't... count. You lifted more. You did it faster. You did it in fewer shots. You knocked them down and they didn't get back up. And so on. If it's down to someone's judgement of how well you did, how do you know the winner is the best at the sport?

It's like I regard powerlifting as a sport, but bodybuilding isn't, even though the activities done to make you better at it are very similar. Mountain bike races (DH/XC) or trials, yes. Dirt jumping, no.

But I don't seem to mind when something that would be a sport is done noncompetitively is called a sport, even though my mindset is it's just what you do because you like it.

I also don't get how people think that not calling something a sport is somehow a lese majeste problem.

The European Court of Justice has, after months of deliberation, just ruled that Bridge is not a sport:

quote:

Bridge “involves logic, memory and planning, and may constitute an activity beneficial to the mental and physical health of regular participants”, but it is not an actual sport, the judges ruled on Thursday. “The court concludes that an activity such as duplicate bridge, which is characterised by a physical element that appears to be negligible, is not covered by the concept of ‘sport’”, they said.

Seems like a good use of all those legal minds.

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

Day 12045 Ht10hands 180lbs
No Name
No lumps No Bumps Full life Clean
Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
Piss OK Genitals intact
Multiple scars Heals fast
O NEGATIVE HI OCTANE
UNIVERSAL DONOR
Lone Road Warrior Rundown
on the Powder Lakes V8
No guzzoline No supplies
ISOLATE PSYCHOTIC
Keep muzzled...

InitialDave posted:

On a more general sport chat, I always find it odd when things that are judged are called sports, rather than competitions. To me, if the victory conditions aren't an objective, measured metric, it doesn't... count. You lifted more. You did it faster. You did it in fewer shots. You knocked them down and they didn't get back up. And so on. If it's down to someone's judgement of how well you did, how do you know the winner is the best at the sport?

It's like I regard powerlifting as a sport, but bodybuilding isn't, even though the activities done to make you better at it are very similar. Mountain bike races (DH/XC) or trials, yes. Dirt jumping, no.

But I don't seem to mind when something that would be a sport is done noncompetitively is called a sport, even though my mindset is it's just what you do because you like it.

I also don't get how people think that not calling something a sport is somehow a lese majeste problem.

Thank you for putting this thought into words so I don't have to. I've always felt the same way.

spog posted:

The European Court of Justice has, after months of deliberation, just ruled that Bridge is not a sport:


Seems like a good use of all those legal minds.

Wait, Bridge like the card game? I don't really see card games as sports. Sports usually involve some sort of physical exertion. Yeah, you're moving your arms a bit playing Bridge, but I don't think that's much of an argument.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Sports usually involve some sort of physical exertion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHnBppccI0o

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

Day 12045 Ht10hands 180lbs
No Name
No lumps No Bumps Full life Clean
Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
Piss OK Genitals intact
Multiple scars Heals fast
O NEGATIVE HI OCTANE
UNIVERSAL DONOR
Lone Road Warrior Rundown
on the Powder Lakes V8
No guzzoline No supplies
ISOLATE PSYCHOTIC
Keep muzzled...

Look at those jowls go!

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
Hey since we're cleaning house maybe we can get rid of the word retarded in the AI rules please don't prob me for this. :angel:

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Tomarse posted:

Its alright for some you bastard :(. I have to do taxes and they loving suck working as a 1-man business since I have to follow the same rules and procedures as those huge companies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

that's one of a few reasons why I don't run my own business. Also why is that poo poo never written up in plain English??

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




I'm not sorry I enjoy watching college football. It's the school's responsibility to get their debt/finances in check, not mine. If the income from it justifies it, then so be it but they are the ones making irresponsible choices and overspending. Welcome to America. :shrug:


And yes, MotoGP is awesome this year. As it has been the last few years. I can't go back to watching other forms of racing because the competitiveness and <1 hour races make it far above any other option. The guys actually have some personality and seem to all like each other (or very much not in some cases) too, so it doesn't feel fake like F1.

Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?

Cage posted:

Hey since we're cleaning house maybe we can get rid of the word retarded in the AI rules please don't prob me for this. :angel:

Yeah good point.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
You should just say dont be like cage :thumbsup:

Cage fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Nov 2, 2017

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Darchangel posted:

I think I have a spare supercap for one of those, after I replaced one, and it just turned out that my G1 was just sucking too much power in standby. If I can remember where I put it, you're welcome to it. Just plugs right in in place of the battery, I think.

Worth a shot. I just dug out my old G1W (which was having issues figuring out if it was running on USB or battery power), but the image sensor seems to be dead. :(

I was planning on replacing the cam soon anyway though.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Holy poo poo IOLink sensors are so God damned easy to setup and use, is this what it's like to join the 21st century?

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Enjoy your botnet?

I'm super paranoid about that stuff. The recent WPA2 crack broke me.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Larrymer posted:

I'm not sorry I enjoy watching college football. It's the school's responsibility to get their debt/finances in check, not mine. If the income from it justifies it, then so be it but they are the ones making irresponsible choices and overspending. Welcome to America. :shrug:

Agreed. You could argue problems and irresponsibility in any sport really (FIFA lol), not many people in this forum would argue against motorsports but there are tons of people that have a problem with it. Oh well.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Applebees Appetizer posted:

Agreed. You could argue problems and irresponsibility in any sport really (FIFA lol), not many people in this forum would argue against motorsports but there are tons of people that have a problem with it. Oh well.

Yeah, F1 is probably one of the worst offenders of this. Basically make countries build a new track to get it up to their spec, then make them pay the FIA to host the event. Same poo poo, different sport. Pretty sure Austin was flipping a poo poo because the F1 race almost didn't come back there a couple years back and they were still underwater.

Edgar Allan Pwned
Apr 4, 2011

Quoth the Raven "I love the power glove. It's so bad..."
i am going to be purchasing a car from a dealer. i am looking at two: a 2002 ford escort zx2 at 68,000 miles (for 2350) and a 2003 hyundai accent at 80,000 miles (for 2500).

ive been looking up common problems and have noticed the hyundai can have a transmission that will slip gears. the ford shakes a lot during idle, and can have issues with the CCRM. do you all have any experience with either? are ford parts cheaper than Hyundai or did you know a guy who had one and the car exploded?

this will be my first car, and i have no mechanical experience but id be willing to learn. obvs that means if one needs a more complicated fix, id like to know.

just from the reviews it seems the transmission issue is more common, and it seems more dangerous but i dont know nothing. advice would be highly appreciated

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





At that price you really shouldn't be buying from a dealer.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


The Ford likely needs engine mounts, if it's the 2.0l zetec. I've changed one or three for friends, seems fairly common and easy to diy.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

IOwnCalculus posted:

At that price you really shouldn't be buying from a dealer.

Yeah agreed. Dealers mark up, that's how they make money. At so low of a price the quality or the car vs the price you pay at a dealership is all out of whack. You'd be way better off buying from a private party via Craigslist or eBay or Auto trader.
I get why you'd go to a dealership though.

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.
They are both weirdly low mileage. Seriously, that Escort's only been driven an average of 4.5k miles a year? I mean, I've heard of "little old lady only drove it to church on Sunday" cars but that's crazy.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

Magnus Praeda posted:

They are both weirdly low mileage. Seriously, that Escort's only been driven an average of 4.5k miles a year? I mean, I've heard of "little old lady only drove it to church on Sunday" cars but that's crazy.
I drive a 2004 with 25k miles. :D

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
I can see that. My commute to work is 12 km, so twice a day * 5 days a week * 48 weeks a year = 5760 km/year in work commute, and maybe 1250 km in road trips etc?

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Olympic Mathlete posted:

Also why is that poo poo never written up in plain English??

I learned this one from my wife, the recently-graduated degreed Legal... assistant? gently caress, I've completely lost the word I wanted to used rather than legal assistant. Old age.

Anyway, they don't use "plain English", because plain English is incredibly, horribly ambiguous, imprecise, and open to interpretation.
Legal English, AKA "Legalese", has very well-defined precise meanings for every word - and even so *still* has interpretation issues. It seems overly-complex, but Legalese is an attempt to be unambiguous as much as possible, across a wide variety of regional language differences.

edit: paralegal was the word I was trying to find.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Cage posted:

I drive a 2004 with 25k miles. :D

My wife drives a 91 with 36k miles :smug:

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
I only just found out Vauxhall built a VXR Meriva. 178bhp (with more on the full throttle overboost) and a 6-speed box. In a loving Meriva.

That's so beautifully silly.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


loving LOL. I just signed into the NAPA website to look up a store and services (to get a bearing pressed onto the axle of my AE86) and decided to change my decade-old login password to something more complex than a 5-letter all lower case word. Their stupid-rear end website is enforcing complexity rule ON THE GODDAMNED "CURRENT PASSWORD" FIELD OF THE FORM. Meaning I can't change my password to a sufficiently complex password because... my existing password isn't complex enough.
Dear God what child wrote this garbage code.

Guess I'll just tell it I can't remember the password so it will force a new one, right after I send them feedback on their idiocy.

I know it's a small thing, but this sort of poo poo is why people, non-technicals in particular, find technology so frustrating.

Darchangel fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Nov 2, 2017

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Hybrid rocket adventures continue. You'd think small-diameter nitrous tanks would be more common for stealth installs on racecars, but apparently they either don't exist or I just don't have the google-fu to dig them up.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Enourmo posted:

Hybrid rocket adventures continue. You'd think small-diameter nitrous tanks would be more common for stealth installs on racecars, but apparently they either don't exist or I just don't have the google-fu to dig them up.

Just use a bunch of Whip-Its.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

For the size motor we're building we'd need like 10, that piping would get complicated and heavy very quickly.

E: They actually do make tiny hybrid motors meant for use with whippits, like these. Those only deliver about 11 N*s of total impulse though, we're looking for 160.

Fender Anarchist fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Nov 2, 2017

rdb
Jul 8, 2002
chicken mctesticles?

Enourmo posted:

Hybrid rocket adventures continue. You'd think small-diameter nitrous tanks would be more common for stealth installs on racecars, but apparently they either don't exist or I just don't have the google-fu to dig them up.

Motorcycle size tanks are too big? NOS makes a small one I think.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...oxoC09IQAvD_BwE

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

Day 12045 Ht10hands 180lbs
No Name
No lumps No Bumps Full life Clean
Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
Piss OK Genitals intact
Multiple scars Heals fast
O NEGATIVE HI OCTANE
UNIVERSAL DONOR
Lone Road Warrior Rundown
on the Powder Lakes V8
No guzzoline No supplies
ISOLATE PSYCHOTIC
Keep muzzled...

rdb posted:

Motorcycle size tanks are too big? NOS makes a small one I think.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...oxoC09IQAvD_BwE

Beat me to it.

http://www.nitrousexpress.com/11021-7-oz-mini-bottle-w0-motorcycle-valve-2-dia-x-1136-tall.html

http://www.nitrousexpress.com/11020-35-oz-mini-bottle-w-motorcycle-valve-2-dia-x-733-tall.html

Edit: and you snuck in a link! :argh:

Boaz MacPhereson fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Nov 2, 2017

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Use a small fire extinguisher or "disposable" MIG welder canister.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Enourmo posted:

For the size motor we're building we'd need like 10, that piping would get complicated and heavy very quickly.

E: They actually do make tiny hybrid motors meant for use with whippits, like these. Those only deliver about 11 N*s of total impulse though, we're looking for 160.

I was mostly being facetious, but have now ended up learning something.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Bored with my car. Wish it was April so I could do this upgrade already.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof
Watch this with me:

http://coxuniversity.cox.com/learningcontent/cox/roles/fm200%20video/fm200.html

it involves heptafluoropropane

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:


It also involves digitally lowering the tone of the speaker's voice, which makes it unwatchable. You have fun with that.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
This narrator needs to blow his nose but it makes how he says "nozzle" pretty funny.

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Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



Rhyno posted:

Bored with my car. Wish it was April so I could do this upgrade already.

Are you getting an EVO or 135iM3?

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