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Duzzy Funlop posted:Turned over documents voluntarily A: Can't plead the Fifth when it comes to documents. B: At this point, you have to assume that the FBI/DoJ knows 95% of what you should have, document/communication-wise. C: You're even more hosed if you gamble on that 5%. D: Kushner wants to go to federal prison as a legacy admission.
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redneck nazgul posted:A: Can't plead the Fifth when it comes to documents. I'd also hazard a guess that the Feds in the US are like ours, if they ask you and you say no they roll up the next day and take ALL of your poo poo including electronic devices and storage media.
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Spacman posted:I'd also hazard a guess that the Feds in the US are like ours, if they ask you and you say no they roll up the next day and take ALL of your poo poo including electronic devices and storage media. Yeah pretty much.
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Trump has taken to Twitter this morning to apparently call for the FBI/DOJ to investigate Hillary. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/926403023861141504 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/926404584456773632 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/926406490763784194 Also, check out the  oozing from this tweet about his account getting taken down.https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/926401530013642765 
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I've always wondered if his idiocy is an act or if he really is that clueless about what is legal and what is illegal. Like if he's deliberately saying wrong/stupid poo poo because he either is stupid or he thinks his base is so stupid that he has to say dumb poo poo to make them happy. The effect is sort of the same though, where he spouts dumb or authoritarian poo poo and the rest of the government just rolls their eyes and continues on with what they were doing already.
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/926417546038923264 My favorite this morning.
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facialimpediment posted:I've always wondered if his idiocy is an act or if he really is that clueless about what is legal and what is illegal. Like if he's deliberately saying wrong/stupid poo poo because he either is stupid or he thinks his base is so stupid that he has to say dumb poo poo to make them happy. Neither. Narcissists create their own reality that you have to conform to. If you don't, you're in the wrong, not them.
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Are the internal processes of a party really subject to government scrutiny? I would think they can run their internal 'elections' any way they want. Why would he think otherwise?
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mlmp08 posted:https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/926417546038923264 I love that he's calling on the Justice Department when his own Attorney General just got caught with proof of him perjuring himself.
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This is my favorite https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/926404584456773632 PLUS, PLUS
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Nuclear War posted:Are the internal processes of a party really subject to government scrutiny? I would think they can run their internal 'elections' any way they want. Why would he think otherwise? Yeah they can pick party officers however they want, but the finances related to campaigns are under federal scrutiny and given the content of Brazile's article there might be something to investigate there. Please note, this is not me advocating for another investigation into Hillary in any way.
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Nuclear War posted:Are the internal processes of a party really subject to government scrutiny? I would think they can run their internal 'elections' any way they want. Why would he think otherwise? Because it's the internal processes of an organization that has not given him fawning adulation and endless praise at every opportunity. They must be badwrong enemies.
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facialimpediment posted:I've always wondered if his idiocy is an act or if he really is that clueless about what is legal and what is illegal. Like if he's deliberately saying wrong/stupid poo poo because he either is stupid or he thinks his base is so stupid that he has to say dumb poo poo to make them happy. It's the former. He, or any of his family, don't know what is illegal and what isn't. They probably aren't billionaires, but they're just rich enough that they fall into the having lawyers on retainer to make problems go away with money bracket, so they've probably felt pretty invincible and law abiding their whole lives. So because he hates Hillary he assumes everything she does that is shady is illegal, and anything he does is Good and Right and Legal. I'd bet my house that Kushner, Ivanka, and Jr had no idea that any of the Russia stuff was illegal until after the probe started and Trump's lawyers started resigning back in June (which, JFC, would have been A Thing That Mattered in any other timeline).
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Arven posted:I'd bet my house that Kushner, Ivanka, and Jr had no idea that any of the Russia stuff was illegal until after the probe started and Trump's lawyers started resigning back in June (which, JFC, would have been A Thing That Mattered in any other timeline). That is exactly what I love about this. When your lawyer shits it and does a runner it is a bad sign to most people, I'm guessing when you have had a parade of lawyers since childhood one of them chucking their hands up and walking away is a footnote, a don't invite to the christmas do for the plebs, not a holy poo poo, what the gently caress am I into moment.
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Another holy poo poo moment that really didn't get much attention was the fact that Dana Boente, the AUSA that oversaw all the probe subpoenas for the Eastern District of Virginia, announced he was resigning shortly before the news of indictments got dropped. Something was enough to get a career government lawyer that was highly regarded and respected to peace the gently caress out.
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Vasudus posted:Another holy poo poo moment that really didn't get much attention was the fact that Dana Boente, the AUSA that oversaw all the probe subpoenas for the Eastern District of Virginia, announced he was resigning shortly before the news of indictments got dropped. Something was enough to get a career government lawyer that was highly regarded and respected to peace the gently caress out. Yeah I literally said "holy poo poo" when I saw that news. Considering the timing with the indictments it seemed highly suspicious. No one else seemed to care so I figured I was reading too deep into it or missing something
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Your Battle Buddy posted:Yeah I literally said "holy poo poo" when I saw that news. Considering the timing with the indictments it seemed highly suspicious. No one else seemed to care so I figured I was reading too deep into it or missing something The report I read said he was explicitly told by Sessions to resign.
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Stultus Maximus posted:The report I read said he was explicitly told by Sessions to resign. I thought Sessions was recused. 
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Stultus Maximus posted:The report I read said he was explicitly told by Sessions to resign. Ding Ding Ding This looks really bad but it is ok becauseeeeee 
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Vasudus posted:Another holy poo poo moment that really didn't get much attention was the fact that Dana Boente, the AUSA that oversaw all the probe subpoenas for the Eastern District of Virginia, announced he was resigning shortly before the news of indictments got dropped. Something was enough to get a career government lawyer that was highly regarded and respected to peace the gently caress out. He was asked to resign by the administration.
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joat mon posted:He was asked to resign by the administration. gee I wonder the gently caress why
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joat mon posted:He was asked to resign by the administration.
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Was that because he was an Obama appointee and therefore more likely to let special counsel poo poo through?
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cowboy elvis posted:Was that because he was an Obama appointee and therefore more likely to let special counsel poo poo through? At this point, doesn't matter who appointed you, its getting through. If Sessions objects, he already has confirmed perjury against him, I doubt he's going to put his fingers into the meatgrinder anytime soon.
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If you really want to get  , think about what happens if Sessions gets canned.The new Attorney General nominee likely wouldn't need to recuse himself/herself, but Trump has made a nasty habit of personally interviewing US Attorney candidates and would likely do the same for AG. Does that mean if confirmed, that person would immediately fire Mueller? Would the Senate even allow a new AG? If Rosenstein becomes acting AG during that time, will Trump force him to fire Mueller, or would Rosenstein also recuse based on his background in the Comey firing?
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CommieGIR posted:At this point, doesn't matter who appointed you, its getting through. If Sessions objects, he already has confirmed perjury against him, I doubt he's going to put his fingers into the meatgrinder anytime soon. Have you considered the possibility that he's a dumb old racist who thinks he can get away with it?
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CommieGIR posted:At this point, doesn't matter who appointed you, its getting through. If Sessions objects, he already has confirmed perjury against him, I doubt he's going to put his fingers into the meatgrinder anytime soon. This is about judges who have special abilities in terrorism and international money laundering cases.
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Chuck Grassley already said way back that he has no intentions of holding hearings for a new AG in 2017. With taxes more than likely going to die, any attempt to fire or defang Mueller will likely result in either a 25th or straight up impeachment at this point probably.
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FAUXTON posted:Have you considered the possibility that he's a dumb old racist who thinks he can get away with it? He's stupid, but he's also aware of what's going on and is probably being advised. Spacman posted:This is about judges who have special abilities in terrorism and international money laundering cases. He'll get them, unless Trump finds a way to fire Mueller, he'll get them.
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Vasudus posted:Chuck Grassley already said way back that he has no intentions of holding hearings for a new AG in 2017. Not to go so far as to get all "nothing matters" but that's a tremendous amount of faith in the GOP you have there.
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FAUXTON posted:Not to go so far as to get all "nothing matters" but that's a tremendous amount of faith in the GOP you have there. If taxes die, they would have accomplished literally nothing including blowing two reconciliation deals (healthcare for 2017, taxes for 2018) and at least for now there are more establishment republicans than trumpkins. To save their own skins, I could see them all jockeying to be the One True Conservative. It sure as gently caress wouldn't be for the good of the party/country/etc.
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Vasudus posted:Chuck Grassley already said way back that he has no intentions of holding hearings for a new AG in 2017. He has done literally gently caress all so far, and his tax plan is dead in the water. The only way he can respond is to go after Meuller, right?
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Vasudus posted:If taxes die, they would have accomplished literally nothing including blowing two reconciliation deals (healthcare for 2017, taxes for 2018) and at least for now there are more establishment republicans than trumpkins. To save their own skins, I could see them all jockeying to be the One True Conservative. It sure as gently caress wouldn't be for the good of the party/country/etc. Successfully stole an SC nomination. Started the ball rolling on the FCC sucking the dick of telecom corporations.
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I should specify; things that everyone knows about, cares about, and can see. All of those mentioned things are important but go ahead and try and explain that to a random on the street.
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So surprising nobody, Donna Brazile is a baldfaced liar. https://twitter.com/walkthetalkbern/status/926206820611325952 The JDA agreement that gave Hillary full control? After the Primary. And I do like how this hitpiece comes months after Brazile lost her position for ethical concerns. The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Nov 3, 2017 |
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