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Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






The Northhampton bombards our troops and does no damage.



The shore guns at Julait do some damage.



Guess who we found!



We confirm the kills in the afternoon.



Our counter battery fire at Julait does amazingly well today.






Allied bombers have a go at one of my anti sub patrols.






That's the kind of start to a month I like!






Brace yourselves for the graphs.



I think I just gave someone a geekasm. Yep, I've finally gotten my act into gear and sorted my graphs!

Another good month sees the our score just below the AI, but the Allies are well behind.



By this point in the last game, I'd started to chip away at the Japanese, but here I'm holding steady.



My conquests are worth a hell of a lot more for some reason.



Air losses have remained stable.



My own losses have stayed low, while in the last game I'd started punishing the Japanese by now.



The AI has now managed to loose more ships than I did! My own losses show how much I've improved over the last two games!



I've not been able to catch up on sheer value of points lost, but you can see the spike in the old data that shows I took out several Japanese carriers around this time.

All I all, while I'm not advancing, I'm holding my own – although I'm always fearful of the arrival of a fleet of US carriers. They should have enough now to completely reverse this war in one battle, and I know I'm living on borrowed time!

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Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






The shore guns get another hit.



Come dawn, they set a ship on fire.



Boom! That's what I like to see.



We can't kill the bombers, but we can take out the escorts!



Heavy flak prevents us from getting a hit and costs us a plane.



We take some more losses attacking the enemy ships at Efatte.



These guys got separated, and then become easy targets.



That's more like it!



The flak is heavy around Luganville as well.



Concentrate your blood strikes!






Not good. Effective ASW means I've abandoned my siege of Pearl. It did a good job, but I just found ten subs at Wake who had aborted their patrols to there. Once they are refuelled, I can make more of a nuisance in the invasion area.






Night fighters – better than nothing?






Look at this, Bettys go in with fighter support, take out the CAP and then sink a ship. This is how it should be done.






That was a busy – and bloody – day. It started well with the air kill,s then swung back to the Allies in the afternoon.



It's worth it for the damage done though.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Reuben Sandwich posted:

That's all I've been able to find is sections here and there. So little about something so remarkable.

The bit of trivia about the VT fuse I found interesting was that it was exclusively used in the Pacific and over only water at first as they were affraid of the Germans reverse engineering it. Watching Air Corps training films on flak navigation I can understand why.

There is an absolute shitload of documentation on the things in the bibliography and further reading sections of this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_fuze#VT

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Im not sure there’d be anything left of Dempsey after taking a pair of torpedos. Like, not even enough to be sure it sank. It may have just disappeared.

Bold Robot
Jan 6, 2009

Be brave.



Love the new graphs. :discourse:

Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

SVMS-01 UNION FLAG GREATEST MOBILE SUIT

ENACT = CHEAP EUROTRASH COPY




So what's the plan after retreating from New Caledonia? Harden up defenses in the Solomons? Hit and run on Midway/Pearl? Aleutians, round 2?

It seems that we're at the point where we can't expand anymore without unstoppable resistance. We've still got naval supremacy (as long as the Kido Butai doesn't get shanked in the coming months), so the most logical course would just be to hold out as long possible and keep grinding US ships.

Also, great work on the new graphs.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
:rip: Jimmy4400nav

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


Great graphs, GH. Now you just need to rename "Allied AI" to "AI Allied" to match the other three entries.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Jobbo_Fett posted:

:rip: Jimmy4400nav

Did you sign me up for the Drum? Now that New Mexico is officially down that means Alabama was truly sank that day.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

CannonFodder posted:

Did you sign me up for the Drum? Now that New Mexico is officially down that means Alabama was truly sank that day.

Yup, its all on the spreadsheet

megane
Jun 20, 2008



New graphs are much easier to read!

Fader Movitz
Sep 25, 2012

Snus, snaps och saltlakrits
Graphs are great GH. Good work with those BBs

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
Air losses are hard, but not a bad start of the month. Two BB's down, one heavy cruiser, some mauled transports. Good luck wtih keeping air production and pilot training up and dealing with the USN Subs.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Good graphs, and good sinkings!

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

boo new graphs


it feels like work now

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

1 November 1943

US destroyer Borie, sank in a gale following damage sustained ramming and sinking U-405.

2 November 1943

The Battle of Empress Augusta Bay: Following the American invasion of Bougainville on 1 November, a Japanese striking force consisting of the heavy cruisers Haguro and Myoko, light cruisers Agano and Sendai, and six destroyers sortied to attack the beachhead. Thanks to good intelligence and skillful use of radar, the American covering force—light cruiser Cleveland and her sisters Columbia, Denver, and Montpelier with eight destroyers—was able to get the drop on the Japanese flotilla. Neither side's torpedo attacks scored any hits, but radar-guided gunfire from the US cruisers quickly told, sinking Sendai and the destroyer Hatsukaze. Both heavy cruisers sustained significant damage along with two Japanese destroyers, while on the American side only the destroyer Foote suffered serious damage.

Later in the day, the Japanese minesweeper W-26 was put out of action at Rabaul by land-based aircraft.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Yup, its all on the spreadsheet
Thanks, I was phone posting and not about to mess with the spreadsheet. I don't mess with it on my laptop either.


Also, Grey, dude, it's the 3rd even in Hawaii.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

CannonFodder posted:

Thanks, I was phone posting and not about to mess with the spreadsheet. I don't mess with it on my laptop either.


Also, Grey, dude, it's the 3rd even in Hawaii.

Nobody can mess with the spreadsheet, so nothing to worry about until I go rogue and start my own WitP LP with blackjack and mods!

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Another quick sally causes the Allies some issues.



This is definitely outside of your set attack range. I counted.



Your just doing this to annoy me.






We lose another night fighter.



I wish there were more days like that.






I start crushing the next failed invasion of Luganville.






Not a bad day – we killed more planes than we lost, which is rare.



We kill or confirm a good number of ships today.

CannonFodder posted:

Also, Grey, dude, it's the 3rd even in Hawaii.

Yeah the kid is hammering my puncutality, it was a late finish and a 4:00am start today, so I've not had any time to get on and post! He's finally down for a nap though!

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Grey's kid actually remembers to rest between shock attacks once fatigue gets too high

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Wait im confused

Airpower...

Is good now?????

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






We lose a bomber on a strike – but at least they are attacking something.



We lose a plane on the ground, but hopefully we see one of those damaged planes crash on the way home.



We continue to grind down the Kiwis on Luganville. (It's always the Kiwi's.)






The returning carriers pick off a small ship.



This is a unexpected windfall, but I have to wonder what they are doing here.


[img]http://lpix.org/2294190/India Burma.jpg[/im



These have to be some of my best pilots by now.






Two days in a row where we killed more than we lost!



Another good day of kills as well – we're closing in on 50,000 points, and I'd like to be there soon!

Ghost of Mussolini
Jun 26, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

Grey's kid actually remembers to rest between shock attacks once fatigue gets too high
:eyepop:

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

gradenko_2000 posted:

Grey's kid actually remembers to rest between shock attacks once fatigue gets too high

Oh my god ahahahahaha

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

gradenko_2000 posted:

Grey's kid actually remembers to rest between shock attacks once fatigue gets too high

This is the next Soviet Response

GenHavoc
Jul 19, 2006

Vive L'Empreur!
Vive La Surcouf!

gradenko_2000 posted:

Grey's kid actually remembers to rest between shock attacks once fatigue gets too high

:boom:

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

gradenko_2000 posted:

Grey's kid actually remembers to rest between shock attacks once fatigue gets too high

Close the thread

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
Sorta curious but on Luganville how when you have 10:1 superiority in men and have cut them off are you taking several times the Allied casualties?

i81icu812
Dec 5, 2006

Nth Doctor posted:

Great graphs, GH. Now you just need to rename "Allied AI" to "AI Allied" to match the other three entries.

So close to perfection.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

wedgekree posted:

Sorta curious but on Luganville how when you have 10:1 superiority in men and have cut them off are you taking several times the Allied casualties?

From what I've been able to absorb the "terrain" defensive bonus is huge in this game.

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
So by that logic Iwo Jima should be compltley impossible for the Allies to take given the historical level of fortification on the island?

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

wedgekree posted:

So by that logic Iwo Jima should be compltley impossible for the Allies to take given the historical level of fortification on the island?

Nah, this is what's gonna happen

Allies land -> shock attack
grey -> shock attack
allies -> bombardment
grey -> shock attack
allies -> bombardment
grey -> shock attack
allies -> bombarment
grey -> shock attack
allies -> deliberate attack

ALLIES CAPTURE IWO JIMA

lizurcainnon
May 5, 2008

wedgekree posted:

Sorta curious but on Luganville how when you have 10:1 superiority in men and have cut them off are you taking several times the Allied casualties?

Shock attacks make your troops more vulnerable to enemy firepower in exchange for a boost to final AV for whatever makes it past that firepower. In this case, most of the japanese casualties are disabled (light wounds, out of ammo, fatigued, etc) and will recover relatively quickly in the field via supplies and non-combat support troops, while all the allies losses are destroyed (they're dead, Jim) and won't be back until at the very least the unit isn't in combat and can draw replacements from the resource pool.

Deliberate attacks should be used for mopping up enemies since you don't need the AV boost if you already have control of the base.

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
Cool, thanks! Nice to hear moreon the system.

Dangeresque
Dec 6, 2008

Grey Hunter posted:




This is a unexpected windfall, but I have to wonder what they are doing here.


What exactly is an "SC"?

I'm guessing that it's something small since it has a number instead of a name.

Also shouldn't the allies have more carriers than us by now?

PPS:

wedgekree posted:

Cool, thanks! Nice to hear the moreon system.

There now it's more accurate.

Caconym
Feb 12, 2013

Dangeresque posted:

What exactly is an "SC"?

I'm guessing that it's something small since it has a number instead of a name.

A SubChaser.

Small escort/Patrol with poo poo for anti-surface armament.

lizurcainnon
May 5, 2008

wedgekree posted:

Cool, thanks! Nice to hear moreon the system.

Just looking at raw AV can sometimes be misleading. Artillery units have low AV values - they get their work done in the shooting phase, but can't really hold or capture territory on their own.

Looking again at the enemy composition in the Luganville report, there's lot of vehicles for the number of troops in the allied formation, which could mean an armor or mechanized units. Given that they didn't lose any I suspect it's probably just tanks left, and that the attacking units might not have a lot of effective anti-armor equipment in their OOB. So the last 100 troops outside got cut down, and now it's 100 tanks each with a 4-man crew. Given they're Kiwis, probably Valentine and/or Stuart tanks, as I don't think they get Shermans in their OOB until 1944.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Running won't help you.






Oh look, China. We cross the river and they flee before us.



This attack doesn't do as well.






We gun down two more search aircraft, giving us another good day.



We continue to make a mess on the seas as well.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Another thing to keep in mind is as the war goes on US ground forces get more and more powerful as they get re-equiped with more powerful weapons. The Japanese, not so much.

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sullat
Jan 9, 2012

pthighs posted:

Another thing to keep in mind is as the war goes on US ground forces get more and more powerful as they get re-equiped with more powerful weapons. The Japanese, not so much.

Unless they also get equipped with gills, it shouldn't matter too much.

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