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Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

FireWorksWell posted:

One time my friend and our coworker were driving around on break, smoking a bowl. Friend tells me that coworker tells him to hold the bowl, and immediately, then and there, with steering wheel between his legs, he brings a baggie of coke up to his nostril and inhales. Then they went back to work like nothing happened.

When I was 18 or 19 an ex boyfriend of mine drove us to a church for a needle exchange program, shot up heroin in the car while driving and then started nodding off while I had to take the wheel

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Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

Aesop Poprock posted:

When I was 18 or 19 an ex boyfriend of mine drove us to a church for a needle exchange program, shot up heroin in the car while driving and then started nodding off while I had to take the wheel

So, why did you break up?

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Ariong posted:

So, why did you break up?

He wasn’t very good at sharing

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

Sarcopenia posted:

Chris Porco brutally murders his father and almost kills his mother. At first she implicates her son but astonishingly changes her story.
http://www.campustimes.org/2011/11/17/chris-porco-a-tale-of-gruesome-uncertainty/
Here she is before her son took a hatchet to her face. https://imgur.com/a/9Z4TT
Here's what she looked like after the ordeal. https://imgur.com/a/0ED6s
A bonus detail from this one is that the father, having been hatched in the head several times, didn't die for several hours and apparently still had some residual brain function, so hours after the attack, mortally injured and covered with blood, he somehow registered it was morning now and he should start his daily routine - he got up, put on his dressing gown, went downstairs, attempted to make breakfast and set the table, went outside and retrieved the morning paper from the front porch, went back into the hallway, and only then collapsed and died.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Apraxin posted:

A bonus detail from this one is that the father, having been hatched in the head several times, didn't die for several hours and apparently still had some residual brain function, so hours after the attack, mortally injured and covered with blood, he somehow registered it was morning now and he should start his daily routine - he got up, put on his dressing gown, went downstairs, attempted to make breakfast and set the table, went outside and retrieved the morning paper from the front porch, went back into the hallway, and only then collapsed and died.

That Forensic Files episode is completely worth it, and a rare case where the reenactment (which is credible) adds a lot. The visual is just :pwn:.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Pick posted:

That Forensic Files episode is completely worth it, and a rare case where the reenactment (which is credible) adds a lot. The visual is just :pwn:.

I comes across weird to type it, but whoever they got to play the dad going through the morning routine while most of his brain was obliterated was really good.

That whole episode was a big :psyduck: from start to finish. One of my favs.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Apraxin posted:

A bonus detail from this one is that the father, having been hatched in the head several times, didn't die for several hours and apparently still had some residual brain function, so hours after the attack, mortally injured and covered with blood, he somehow registered it was morning now and he should start his daily routine - he got up, put on his dressing gown, went downstairs, attempted to make breakfast and set the table, went outside and retrieved the morning paper from the front porch, went back into the hallway, and only then collapsed and died.

Was it in this thread that I read about a dude who shot himself in the head and his wife found him in the kitchen eating serial because his brain just set itself on daily routine autopilot?

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

Solice Kirsk posted:

Back in like 2004 I got pulled into jail for holding because I was a guy with a Mohawk and there had been a guy with a Mohawk miles away that stabbed someone. This is Chicago, so miles away may as well been another town.

you deserved to go to jail for having a mohawk, hth

InequalityGodzilla
May 31, 2012

Probably, though if we're thinking of the same person (which we probably are) I think he ended up surviving because he did the whole "gun barrel to the temple" thing rather than gun in mouth.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

InequalityGodzilla posted:

Probably, though if we're thinking of the same person (which we probably are) I think he ended up surviving because he did the whole "gun barrel to the temple" thing rather than gun in mouth.
The guy I'm thinking about survived so it's most likely the same person.

Have some penetrating brain injuries.
https://neurophilosophy.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/unusual_penetrating_brain_injuries/

quote:

A 44 year old man was referred to the accident and emergency department by the psychiatric services, having claimed to have hammered several nails through his skull over a three month period. The patient had a long history of depression, personality disorder, and previous deliberate self-harm. He had remained well throughout this period and had been cleaning the wounds with weak antiseptic on a regular basis. He had concealed the injuries by wearing a hat. Two days prior to admission he had inserted a much larger 12.7 cm (5 inch) masonry nail and had developed left sided weakness and unsteadiness of gait.

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


chernobyl kinsman posted:

you deserved to go to jail for having a mohawk, hth

Sorry about your bad taste, man, mohawks can be awesome.

E: to add some content have we discussed Joseph Roy Methany? He killed people and served them as BBQ.

http://crimefeed.com/2016/12/joe-the-cannibal-metheny-the-serial-killer-with-a-penchant-for-human-flesh-burgers/

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Whatev
Jan 19, 2007

unfading
What are some good examples of heinous motherfuckers whose horrible crimes weren't revealed until after their death? Got on this train of thought from Jimmy Savile.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Geraldine Kelly killed her husband and stuffed him in a freezer and only admitted it on her deathbed. He'd been in that freezer like ten years.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

Whatev posted:

What are some good examples of heinous motherfuckers whose horrible crimes weren't revealed until after their death? Got on this train of thought from Jimmy Savile.

Belle Gunness.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Whatev posted:

What are some good examples of heinous motherfuckers whose horrible crimes weren't revealed until after their death? Got on this train of thought from Jimmy Savile.

Legendary Drag Queen Dorian Corey had a mummified 10+ year old corpse in their closet but it's not clear who had murdered the man.

This lady was super duper obvious about having killed her husband and storing him in a shed.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/oct/08/why-didnt-she-confess-killing-of-john-sabine

Does Dean Corll count?

Grumbletron 4000
Nov 30, 2002

Where you want it, bitch.
College Slice
Corll counts because he was killed by his potential victim/accomplice before he could be arrested and charged. It would have been fascinating to hear what that pile of poo poo had to say. It's best that he's dead though.

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


Herb Baumeister might count? He committed suicide before being arraigned, and discoveries continued after his death. If his name doesn't ring a bell, Fox Hollow Farm or the I-70 murders (of which he was suspected) might.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Baumeister

Having a hard time finding good articles about it... although it's interesting looking at uploads of ones written just previous to his suicide. Here's one I found that's from 2017.

https://www.thoughtco.com/herbert-richard-baumeister-973121

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014
Two serial killers who were killed by their victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Nance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Falls

But I feel like I'm missing some case that really stuck out to me.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

ranbo das posted:

It's the one that some people (such as I) love and some people hate. Mostly the comedy puts people off but it's really well researched and I personally think the jokes break up the otherwise horrific crimes being talked about.

What I was thinking of was Sword and Shield I think.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Sarcopenia posted:

Two serial killers who were killed by their victims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Nance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Falls

But I feel like I'm missing some case that really stuck out to me.

There's that one from New Mexico where the escort's bodyguard shot the guy when he killed the escort. Think maybe they thought the guy could have been the serial killer that Droog did that awesome write up about. I'm at work and have a meeting coming up so can't look it up right now.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Solice Kirsk posted:

There's that one from New Mexico where the escort's bodyguard shot the guy when he killed the escort. Think maybe they thought the guy could have been the serial killer that Droog did that awesome write up about. I'm at work and have a meeting coming up so can't look it up right now.

Oooh do tell when you have the time for it.

Depressio111117
Oct 18, 2014

A whole world of imagination beyond the oompah band.
That's a-spicy teacake - Leonarda Cianciulli, who killed three women and, uh...recycled their bodies.

quote:

The first of Cianciulli's victims, Faustina Setti, was a lifelong spinster who had come to her for help in finding a husband. Cianciulli offered her a glass of drugged wine, then killed her with an axe and dragged the body into a closet. There she cut it into nine parts, gathering the blood into a basin. Cianciulli described what happened next in her official statement:

"I threw the pieces into a pot, added seven kilos of caustic soda, which I had bought to make soap, and stirred the mixture until the pieces dissolved in a thick, dark mush that I poured into several buckets and emptied in a nearby septic tank. As for the blood in the basin, I waited until it had coagulated, dried it in the oven, ground it and mixed it with flour, sugar, chocolate, milk and eggs, as well as a bit of margarine, kneading all the ingredients together. I made lots of crunchy tea cakes and served them to the ladies who came to visit, though Giuseppe and I also ate them."

Cianciulli's final victim was Virginia Cacioppo, a former soprano said to have sung at La Scala.

"She ended up in the pot, like the other two...her flesh was fat and white, when it had melted I added a bottle of cologne, and after a long time on the boil I was able to make some most acceptable creamy soap. I gave bars to neighbours and acquaintances. The cakes, too, were better: that woman was really sweet."

Che roba!

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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Sarcopenia posted:

Oooh do tell when you have the time for it.

Ask and you shall receive!

Droogie posted:

The West Mesa Murders




Albuquerque, New Mexico sits in the middle of the state, a city built around a river valley a mile above sea level in the high desert. Founded in 1706, the city continues to grow as much as possible constrained to the north and south boundaries by indian reservations and the east side of the city is ended by the jutting Sandia Mountain. To the west is a long stretch of open desert and mesa, long-dormant volcanoes serving to punctuate the horizon. To the locals, you’ll hear directions associated with their landmarks, specifically the east mountains and the west mesa.


East Mountains from the West Mesa, April 15 2016

The west mesa is an eerie place to begin with. Equally inviting and ominous, the west mesa rises up from the valley below, and on the mesa you can see the entirety of Albuquerque spread below you, framed by the picturesque mountains. The mesa is still, dusty, and arid in the desert sun. I worked for a time (2011 - 2014) at a building just on the outskirts of town, and a two minute walk to the west was all it took to find yourself surrounded by dirt, tumbleweeds, and an unearthly quiet. You may as well be on the moon, if the moon had tumbleweeds, I guess.


West Mesa, September 29 2014

I took to wandering around the desert on my lunch breaks for exercise and as a way of centering myself from a highly stressful job. Once you’ve wandered away for awhile, you start to become sensitive to objects and sounds. Every noise or object in the distance becomes fascinating and foreboding, and you realize that you’ve left everything and you are very much so in the wild west.

Walking in a different direction each day, I frequently thought about the quote from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas,

“This same lonely desert was the last known home of the Manson family. Will he make that grim connection?”

The truth was actually much more frightening. This same lonely desert just 100 miles to the south was the home to a name familiar to this very thread, David Parker Ray; AKA The Toy Box Killer. Ray died in custody in 2002, but during Ray’s last years, this same stretch of desert would be the home of an entirely different killer, and that home was less than a mile and a half from where I was walking. I had known about this case for years, but the concept rather than the location of the crime scene always seemed further away. When I learned that I was wandering the same area of desert, I couldn’t put it out of my mind.

On February 2nd 2009, a woman was taking her dog for a walk near a plot of land on the west mesa that was slated for construction of a new subdivision. The area had been cleared of desert flora and heavy machinery had started leveling the ground for the project. On a stretch of desert off of 118th street, almost literally the most southwestern corner of the city, Construction crews had been busy since 2005 creating large cookie-cutter communities in the area. Immediately to the north and south of this woman’s walk, houses had started sprouting up. This area had been leveled off and staked out by the development company for 4 years now, but it was this day that her dog discovered something unusual on their walk. Jutting out of the ground was a human femur.


(Next, unless this is boring: The Missing)

Just follow along with all of Droogie's posts. He's done some amazing high effort posting in here.

edit:
Oh, and incase that first post wasn't enough to hook people, this comes up too:

Droogie posted:

And here is a view of Albuquerque on April 15, 2016 overlooking the city.

Sometime between 2002 and 2006, a man stood just 50 feet from where I took this photo and hastily dug grave after grave, disposing of the bodies of multiple women. He would stand up and look out over the same city, and he would have the same view.

(NEXT: The hosed up Mysteries of the desert)

Seriously, just read it all.

Solice Kirsk has a new favorite as of 22:57 on Nov 6, 2017

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Solice Kirsk posted:

Ask and you shall receive!


Just follow along with all of Droogie's posts. He's done some amazing high effort posting in here.

edit:
Oh, and incase that first post wasn't enough to hook people, this comes up too:


Seriously, just read it all.

Oh those! I read them but reread the whole thing because its so freaking good! Thanks.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

The New Yorker just published a Ronan Farrow piece about Harvey Weinstein hiring people to investigate women and reporters to sabotage people trying to kill stories about him

https://twitter.com/RonanFarrow/status/927698523306516482

Article

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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EmmyOk posted:

The New Yorker just published a Ronan Farrow piece about Harvey Weinstein hiring people to investigate women and reporters to sabotage people trying to kill stories about him

https://twitter.com/RonanFarrow/status/927698523306516482

Article

I hope this poo poo finally brings Hollywood down. It's been an open festering sore for a century.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



EmmyOk posted:

The New Yorker just published a Ronan Farrow piece about Harvey Weinstein hiring people to investigate women and reporters to sabotage people trying to kill stories about him

https://twitter.com/RonanFarrow/status/927698523306516482

Article

He is *such* a vile, reprehensible excuse for a human being. I tend to think that America is over-litigious, but I really hope his victims sue him into a cardboard box in addition to any criminal charges they may make stick (that may be more of an uphill battle than ruining him in civil court).

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014
What rehab do you go to for help with that?

spinderella
Jul 15, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Sarcopenia posted:

What rehab do you go to for help with that?

The afterlife.

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


Ugh. Vile. I think the whole country has known something was up with Hollywood for a long time - look at movies like Starry Eyes, for example - but now that it's all coming out, it feels like it's so much worse than we thought. Those pedophile party stories are probably true, Christ.

I'm glad all this poo poo is being aired, and I hope all the abusers get exposed, squeezed out, and brought to justice.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Proteus Jones posted:

He is *such* a vile, reprehensible excuse for a human being. I tend to think that America is over-litigious, but I really hope his victims sue him into a cardboard box in addition to any criminal charges they may make stick (that may be more of an uphill battle than ruining him in civil court).
America being "over-litigious" is propaganda spread by corporations to try to shame people out of suing them for legitimate reasons. Most examples you hear about frivolous lawsuits in America are actually about a company doing something that could straight up kill someone and being rightfully sued for it. Like the McDonalds coffee thing was coffee so hot that if the woman had drank it instead of spilling it, the coffee would have caused severe internal damage.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Sarcopenia posted:

What rehab do you go to for help with that?

France. It's worked out fine for Roman Polanski.

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

Terrible Opinions posted:

America being "over-litigious" is propaganda spread by corporations to try to shame people out of suing them for legitimate reasons. Most examples you hear about frivolous lawsuits in America are actually about a company doing something that could straight up kill someone and being rightfully sued for it. Like the McDonalds coffee thing was coffee so hot that if the woman had drank it instead of spilling it, the coffee would have caused severe internal damage.

the McDonald's coffee thing pisses me off so much. IT WAS SO HOT IT MELTED HER LABIA. It's not frivolous to expect the coffee to NOT MELT YOUR PRIVATES THROUGH YOUR PANTS

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Yeah if she had drunk it she'd probably have died.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
And that exact McDonalds had been warned about their coffee temperature multiple times.

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

Terrible Opinions posted:

America being "over-litigious" is propaganda spread by corporations to try to shame people out of suing them for legitimate reasons. Most examples you hear about frivolous lawsuits in America are actually about a company doing something that could straight up kill someone and being rightfully sued for it. Like the McDonalds coffee thing was coffee so hot that if the woman had drank it instead of spilling it, the coffee would have caused severe internal damage.
Isn't the issue just that other countries handle this sort of thing with government action against the company, rather than forcing victims to turn to lawsuits as their only avenue of redress?

Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.

pookel posted:

Isn't the issue just that other countries handle this sort of thing with government action against the company, rather than forcing victims to turn to lawsuits as their only avenue of redress?

That and decent healthcare and insurance. Anecdote =/= data, but my mum works with a lot of Americans, and earlier this year my brother tripped and fell through a glass tram stop, resulting in some giant nasty cuts and bruising to his face, chest and hand. When my mum told the Americans she was working with, without fail the first question they asked (after if he was okay) was if we were going to sue. They were shocked when we said no, but less so after we explained that we also didn't have to pay a cent for the ambulance ride and hospital treatment.

That said, a few of my law lecturers were American or practiced there, and all of them have commented that America is more litigious than Australia, so take that as you will.

Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(
Looking it up, the US is more litigious than most countries (at least skimming one article suggested we have the highest number of lawyers per capita, but not the highest number of lawsuits), but that fact is also trumped up by corporations looking to discourage lawsuits.

It's also possible that the way the US handles certain situations, such as class-action lawsuits, and the way legal services are advertised, may contribute to distorted perceptions about American litigiousness. An...amusingly aggressive write-up elsewhere also suggested that the US has the highest yearly tort payouts relative to GDP, at a whopping 2% or so, but even if that's accurate it's hard to say if that describes a country that is over-litigious, since the US has such an extreme wealth gap and a lot of comforts and protections present in other countries are relatively lacking in the US (such as universal healthcare and stringent safety regulations). It makes sense that at the very least payouts for health and safety violations are going to be higher on average in a country with weirdly distorted healthcare costs like the US has.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

pookel posted:

Isn't the issue just that other countries handle this sort of thing with government action against the company, rather than forcing victims to turn to lawsuits as their only avenue of redress?

Large chunk of the judgements cover stuff like hospital bill + time off work, both of which are covered by social safety net in functioning democracies, reducing need for litigation

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maskenfreiheit posted:

Large chunk of the judgements cover stuff like hospital bill + time off work, both of which are covered by social safety net in functioning democracies, reducing need for litigation

I think you’ll find that the private sector results in more efficient outcomes.

(“gently caress you” is cheaper and quicker)

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