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Here they talked of revolution, Here it was they lit the flame, Here they sang about tomorrow and tomorrow never came.
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An Andalus long united, divides. Long divided,
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Nov 6, 2017 00:48
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:"Andalusi Asturias"-??? That means we (assuming "we" are still al-Andalus) own it but it isn't connected to our capital.
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Nov 6, 2017 00:49
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Pakled posted:That means we (assuming "we" are still al-Andalus) own it but it isn't connected to our capital. Who the hell's in charge of the remnants of Al-Andalus, though? Some kind of regency?
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Nov 6, 2017 00:50
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Yeah, it just happens because rebels weren't able (or didn't need) to claim every last inch of Iberia before enforcing their demands. I'll just cede those last few bits to them myself though.
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Nov 6, 2017 00:51
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So we're Warlord Era China then.
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Nov 6, 2017 00:56
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Vicky 2 Iberia event chain will just be the reconquista only 500 years late.
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Nov 6, 2017 01:14
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Hashim posted:Yeah, it just happens because rebels weren't able (or didn't need) to claim every last inch of Iberia before enforcing their demands. I'll just cede those last few bits to them myself though. Perfect. We did all of this, and it was Bavaria that got the Revolution. And when the revolutionary armies reach the Pyrenees, they're going to take one look at this mess and go "gently caress no."
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Nov 6, 2017 01:17
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:Perfect. When I saw that Bavaria got the revolution I knew we were done. This is the best way to go down, Balkanization style 
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Nov 6, 2017 01:21
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Soup du Jour posted:I take solace in the fact that we aren't yet as big of failures as Japan.
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Nov 6, 2017 01:56
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Man, gently caress Bavaria for stealing our Revolution. Although, does that popup mean that the disaster just started for them, or that the rebels won and they get all the special modifiers? If it's the former, we might be able to beat them to collapse.
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Nov 6, 2017 02:01
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finally, a glorious patchwork of regulations
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Nov 6, 2017 02:02
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time to gently caress off to the colonies. iberia was lame anyways.
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Nov 6, 2017 02:03
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You know, I honestly feel like we didn't even do that much wrong. Like we really tried to make Al-Andalus work, and its half a miracle that we survived as long as we did with few allies and two stronger enemies to our north and our south.
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Nov 6, 2017 02:11
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Hashim posted:The future of Al Andalus is as bright as ever! (spoilers from next update) Talk about getting out of our way to lose the game.
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Nov 6, 2017 02:15
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A decent chunk of our failure can be chalked up to the factions system only letting us do one thing at a time, which especially tanked colonization- while the AI was running all its colonists at max speed the entire game we were artificially constrained to 1 or 0 for entire centuries. Or how at times we'd be able to have a decent army but get hosed by Morocco/the Celts because no navy, or we could have a good navy but get hosed by France because of a poo poo army. I'm sure we still hosed up quite a bit through our own errors, though, we're goons after all.
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Nov 6, 2017 02:16
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Crazycryodude posted:A decent chunk of our failure can be chalked up to the factions system only letting us do one thing at a time, which especially tanked colonization- while the AI was running all its colonists at max speed the entire game we were artificially constrained to 1 or 0 for entire centuries. Or how at times we'd be able to have a decent army but get hosed by Morocco/the Celts because no navy, or we could have a good navy but get hosed by France because of a poo poo army.
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Nov 6, 2017 02:23
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Oh, yeah, I rather liked them actually and they were a good way to stop us blobbing out of control. But to still stay competitive while artificially restricting yourself like that takes a halfway decent player which the hivemind.... is not. Although we still did manage to do pretty good the first couple centuries.
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Nov 6, 2017 02:25
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:art
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Crazycryodude posted:Man, gently caress Bavaria for stealing our Revolution. Although, does that popup mean that the disaster just started for them, or that the rebels won and they get all the special modifiers? If it's the former, we might be able to beat them to collapse. If they were the Revolution Target, they would be called Revolutionary Bavaria, have a new flag, and have an icon at the bottom of the screen next to the HRE menu. That message just meant they triggered the disaster, not that they lost to it.
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Nov 6, 2017 02:41
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Yeah we kind of got hosed over by the faction system rules, but that's okay because when has the goon country ever gotten this bad this is awesome
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Nov 6, 2017 02:42
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Accurate.
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Nov 6, 2017 02:47
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Holy poo poo
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Nov 6, 2017 02:49
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Rodyle posted:Yeah we kind of got hosed over by the faction system rules, but that's okay because when has the goon country ever gotten this bad this is awesome Agreed. It's actually kinda refreshing to lose for once, nearly every other LP always has the player nation in the top 3 at least, and don't even get me started on PopeLP....
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Nov 6, 2017 02:50
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Pope LP is a lot of fun, but I totally get where you're coming from. Plus, it'll be fun to claw our way back.
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Nov 6, 2017 03:10
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So, i'm wondering how this division is going to work with EU4's mechanics. I kinda want to see a sort of spanish civil war scenario with the powers around us backing different factions to set up a puppet andalus state, but i fear the EU4 AI is just going to try to annex everything it can because it's a big single minded dummy. But in the case it works like i want to, i for one welcome our new Moroccan overlords.
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Frionnel posted:So, i'm wondering how this division is going to work with EU4's mechanics. I kinda want to see a sort of spanish civil war scenario with the powers around us backing different factions to set up a puppet andalus state, but i fear the EU4 AI is just going to try to annex everything it can because it's a big single minded dummy. this system would work really well for vicky 2 in terms of proxy wars leading to reunification under a puppet government
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Nov 6, 2017 03:38
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Crazycryodude posted:Agreed. It's actually kinda refreshing to lose for once, nearly every other LP always has the player nation in the top 3 at least, and don't even get me started on PopeLP.... PopeLP owns actually
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Don't get me wrong, it owns so hard, but I don't think we were supposed to win quite as much as we did....
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Nov 6, 2017 04:33
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I'm really glad we're going into Victoria 2 ripe to be a birthplace of liberal unificationist nationalism.
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Honestly? I don't think the factions system was really our downfall. We were just surrounded by strong enemies with few and distant friends. At sea, We were contending with both the Celtic Empire and Morroco without enjoying the geographic isolation of either. We have a land border with France which is, well, France. Our forces fought hard and long but at the end of the day we were not set up for great success. edit: I would really like to see ourselves find a way to claw our way back
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The faction system only constrainted us at colonization and province conversion. We could always deal with the later with tolerance, but there was nothing to do for the former. The extra cash from all the colonies we could have had wouldn't save us but it also wouldn't hurt.Agean90 posted:this system would work really well for vicky 2 in terms of proxy wars leading to reunification under a puppet government Yeah i was thinking that too. EU4 needs some heavy scripting to make something like this work. But on the other side Hashim did a great job with the Fitna so i trust him on this.
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Nov 6, 2017 05:00
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 This more or less sums up the Senate through the last few updates. Just about all of the credit should go to Thanquol, whose image I based this off of.
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Rodyle posted:when has the goon country ever gotten this bad this is awesome Flamboyant Schemers
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