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Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.
I had to look because I was pretty sure they just beat the Magic.

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Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
I haven't gotten to watch much of the Raptors this year. What's up with Lowry? His statlines haven't seemed so hot.

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Hand Knit posted:

I haven't gotten to watch much of the Raptors this year. What's up with Lowry? His statlines haven't seemed so hot.

Oh wow you aren't kidding. I went to his BBref and he's averaging 11 points on <50% TS. Is he injured? That ain't right

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
Jrue seemingly forgot how to shoot from 3 to start this season and, since it's 30% of his shots, is seriously hurting his offense. He's been good-to-great around the basket and the long 2s have been kept to a minimum so it's really just his 3pt shot that is loving him up when compared to previous years. And I have no idea why since most of them are wide open.

FrankeeFrankFrank
Apr 21, 2005

Say word son.
How long into an NBA season does it take to determine what teams really are?

When do you stop saying, "I know it's early but..."?

Stevie Lee
Oct 8, 2007

FrankeeFrankFrank posted:

How long into an NBA season does it take to determine what teams really are?

When do you stop saying, "I know it's early but..."?

A month after the all star break

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
After the all-star break

Like, new nba fans, there are 5 months of regular season AFTER football is over

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Tae posted:

After the all-star break

Like, new nba fans, there are 5 months of regular season AFTER football is over

The regular season does not end in July

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Yeah there are two months of regular season after the Super Bowl

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Football ends in December for me because Bears

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

Tae posted:

Football ends in December for me because Bears

Hahah fair enough Tae

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

:stat:man

FrankeeFrankFrank posted:

How long into an NBA season does it take to determine what teams really are?

When do you stop saying, "I know it's early but..."?

When teams have played 9 games, half of their win-loss record is entirely random. Each addition game provides more information as to their actual ability. Right now each team has averaged about 10 games played, at this point last year, here's what the standings looked like:

code:
team                   w-l start   end
Cleveland Cavaliers    8-1   89%   62%
Atlanta Hawks          7-2   78%   52%
Toronto Raptors        7-2   78%   62%
Charlotte Hornets      6-3   67%   44%
Chicago Bulls          6-4   60%   50%
Milwaukee Bucks        5-4   56%   51%
Detroit Pistons        6-5   55%   45%
Boston Celtics         5-5   50%   65%
Indiana Pacers         5-6   45%   51%
Brooklyn Nets          4-6   40%   24%
New York Knicks        4-6   40%   38%
Orlando Magic          4-7   36%   35%
Washington Wizards     2-7   22%   60%
Miami Heat             2-7   22%   50%
Philadelphia 76ers     1-9   10%   34%

Los Angeles Clippers  10-1   91%   62%
Golden State Warriors  8-2   80%   82%
San Antonio Spurs      8-3   73%   74%
Portland Trail Blazers 7-4   64%   50%
Houston Rockets        6-4   60%   67%
Utah Jazz              7-5   58%   62%
Oklahoma City Thunder  6-5   55%   57%
Los Angeles Lakers     6-5   55%   32%
Memphis Grizzlies      5-5   50%   52%
Sacramento Kings       4-7   36%   39%
Minnesota Timberwolves 3-6   33%   38%
Denver Nuggets         3-7   30%   49%
Phoenix Suns           3-8   27%   29%
Dallas Mavericks       2-7   22%   40%
New Orleans Pelicans   2-9   18%   41%
The correlation between a team's final record and their record after 10 games is about 0.6, after 20 games it's about 0.8, so just wait a couple of weeks.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
Evan Turner looks a lot better than he did last season but still sucks real bad, stank real bad last night, and seems to get worse as the season goes on. Pat Connaughton is better.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/status/927330944142385152


Lmao, nobody likes Niko

Like joking aside there is no way Bobby should be playing until Niko is either back or traded.

Edit

https://twitter.com/Kl11A/status/927350887135285249

Kyrie :allears:

Dexo fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Nov 6, 2017

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova
Seriously, the whole Bulls organization must loving hate Niko

https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/927583928264871939

Glad we resigned him though

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/927583082584080384

I would like to send my thoughts and prayers to Niko's face and brain

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

:stat:man
Charge your phone KC you're making me anxious.

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

:stat:man
Nm

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

I like to think that when Niko came out of surgery and woke up he had Bobby hovering over his bed making that face

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



Is it too early to start making offerings for the Lakers? We're gonna beat the Celtics and have a winning record.

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

FrankeeFrankFrank posted:

How long into an NBA season does it take to determine what teams really are?

When do you stop saying, "I know it's early but..."?

dokmo posted:

The correlation between a team's final record and their record after 10 games is about 0.6, after 20 games it's about 0.8, so just wait a couple of weeks.

Yeah, I think around 20-25 games you usually start getting some big picture stuff. 20 games in the NBA is equivalent to 4 in the NFL. There will also be a difference in how the league is going in Feb and March than Nov/Dec. Lineups will look different, some teams will quit, and some will be on fire. I definitely would not jump to any conclusions quite yet though.


I mean, Niko must have said/done something real bad, right?

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Lockback posted:

I mean, Niko must have said/done something real bad, right?

Probably but I think it's just more generally that he's a massive jackass to everyone

Jack's Flow
Jun 6, 2003

Life, friends, is boring
That's what I am curious about at this point. Is Niko such a piece of poo poo that half the roster wanted to knock him out?

edit:

https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/927354415291469825

Starbury!

Jack's Flow fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Nov 6, 2017

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova
An ESPN reporter also mentioned that the Bulls have to juggle their practice time so Niko can get into the facility at times when Bobby isn't present

The effort to reward ratio there seems like it's probably a little off

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe

Jack's Flow posted:

That's what I am curious about at this point. Is Niko such a piece of poo poo that half the roster wanted to knock him out?

edit:

https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/927354415291469825

Starbury!

It's so weird to remember that those two dudes were on the same team for 3 seasons.

Gonna be interesting to see if Harden leads the league in FTs again this year.

Jota
May 6, 2003

uga-booga uga-booga
https://twitter.com/rich_hofmann/status/927590323261493248

Embiid isn't playing tomorrow, he has problems with his loads.

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

Yo why you denying this Wade?? Shout this from the roof tops
https://twitter.com/DwyaneWade/status/927378884101844992

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Wade should have probably retired in his last Miami Heat season. I can see why he would want to keep cashing checks though.

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

FrankeeFrankFrank posted:

How long into an NBA season does it take to determine what teams really are?

When do you stop saying, "I know it's early but..."?

My general rule is what does a teams win/loss record look like by the time a team gets to 20 wins. Injuries and trades can mess this up but if neither of those are a factor it usually holds up.

Edit: dokmo agrees, nice

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Lakers were 10-10 last year before they were a bottom 3 team

aBagorn
Aug 26, 2004

Jota posted:

https://twitter.com/rich_hofmann/status/927590323261493248

Embiid isn't playing tomorrow, he has problems with his loads.

I'm fine with this. After the Kings game he will have played 9 of 11. That's a decent enough clip

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

WhyteRyce posted:

Yo why you denying this Wade?? Shout this from the roof tops
https://twitter.com/DwyaneWade/status/927378884101844992

https://twitter.com/dowens32/status/927376573363302400

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

[https://twitter.com/KyleNeubeck/status/927588346653798401

:thunk:

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

What in the world. Hope it works out.

Looks like Richaun Holmes will get some extended run tonight?

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene
Fultz training to become ambidextrous Curry, most unstoppable player in basketball history.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Tae posted:

Lakers were 10-10 last year before they were a bottom 3 team

Yeah, they had a lot of injuries that ruined the crazy schemes that Luke had implemented last year. This year, they are way better on defense, so that should help them not drop off a cliff as hard (though I still don't expect more than 35 wins, especially if Lonzo cant get his poo poo together)

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Cool Buff Man posted:

What in the world. Hope it works out.

Looks like Richaun Holmes will get some extended run tonight?

Probably 50/50 with Amir

Neither of them can match up with Gobert or favors so rip this game

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

euphronius posted:

Probably 50/50 with Amir

Neither of them can match up with Gobert or favors so rip this game

Yeah, gonna be rough. Also I just took my first trip to a basketball reddit ever (Sixers to see if there's any vid of Markelle's lefty shot) and I saw this, which caused me to stumble backwards and fall



Thank you to everyone posting here, yes you, for making this thread a relative sanctuary of sanity

Paul Zuvella
Dec 7, 2011

Lebron james wishes he was half the player Ben Simmons is

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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Not playing embiid at altitude is smart imho

Let him wander around the milk bars and wives clubs of salt lake .

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