Touhou Thread 6 - Fear and Loathing in Lunar Voyages by Hunter S. Clownpiece

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ElMaligno: Dec 31, 2004; Be Gay!
Do Crime!

to be fair, im hoping we could patch the steam version of the game.

# ? Nov 4, 2017 20:37

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# ? May 13, 2024 07:02

Captain Invictus: Apr 5, 2005; Try reading some manga!; Clever Betty

Clarste posted:

Translating it would involve quite a few more steps for ZUN. Based on what he's said about this, the only reason it's on Steam now is because putting it on Steam is completely trivial now. He's literally just dumping it on Steam so he doesn't have to think about it anymore.

He's such a bum!!!! he could get carpe fulgur or someone to do it with little fuss, I'm sure.

# ? Nov 4, 2017 21:21

Gamerofthegame: Oct 28, 2010; Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

ElMaligno posted:

to be fair, im hoping we could patch the steam version of the game.

I highly doubt the game will be any different from the usual release version. It won't call on anything or recall you to be on Steam to play it, you could just hit it up in the directory.

# ? Nov 4, 2017 21:42

a cartoon duck: Sep 5, 2011

Hiring translators is a fair amount of fuss, really.

Even if the steam version is completely unmoddable all the dialogue is still on the wiki anyway. Not the endings maybe but most of the meat and potatoes anyway.

# ? Nov 4, 2017 21:44

Schwarzwald: Jul 27, 2004; Don't Blink

Captain Invictus posted:

He's such a bum!!!! he could get carpe fulgur or someone to do it with little fuss, I'm sure.

Are they even still around?

# ? Nov 4, 2017 21:58

Captain Invictus: Apr 5, 2005; Try reading some manga!; Clever Betty

I don't know!!!!

I have seen Spacedrake post fairly recently but aside from that I dunno if CF is still a thing

# ? Nov 4, 2017 22:58

mdct: Sep 2, 2011; Tingle tingle kooloo limpah.
These are my magic words.
Don't steal them.

In the case of official products and releases, ZUN's a bit of a control freak. He knows this himself, and that's why he's never wanted to do any official translations. Because he'd want to take a lot of charge on it, doesn't actually know English, and it would be a pain in the rear end, an official translation would both be something he doesn't want to do and also probably turn out bad.

He really loves that fan translations exist, though.

# ? Nov 4, 2017 23:05

El Burbo: Oct 10, 2012

He also said in an interview that he thinks fan translations would be better than a professional translation

quote:

Q: If a Western publisher of Japanese PC games approached you to officially translate and publish outside Japan, what would you say?

ZUN: I think if I was approached by something like that, obviously I�d think about it. I�d feel like it would probably be a bit of a bother, and I honestly think I�d probably get sick of the whole process rather quickly. I think it would probably just be a hassle. I would say though, that in terms of would I rather have fan-translations, or a company translate it, I think because Touhou has such a dedicated fan-base, I feel like the fan translations are going to be better than a professional one. I think some of the content of Touhou�s stories and so on, it might be quite difficult even for Japanese speakers to understand, so I feel like, even if it�s translated directly, it won�t make any sense to a lot of people. So I feel like it�s not . . . I�ve been thinking, I might just sell it in the West, in Japanese. I don�t think it�s necessary to speak Japanese to be able to enjoy the game, the artwork, the playing, and so on. Translating stuff takes a long time and can be very difficult..

El Burbo fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Nov 4, 2017

# ? Nov 4, 2017 23:08

Meowywitch: Jan 14, 2010; Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

good man ZUN knows the score

# ? Nov 4, 2017 23:13

Gamerofthegame: Oct 28, 2010; Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

bitch get out of the way

# ? Nov 4, 2017 23:43

Meowywitch: Jan 14, 2010; Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

Gamerofthegame posted:

bitch get out of the way

I mean, shoot and I'll move. In a flash

# ? Nov 5, 2017 00:00

FractalSandwich: Apr 25, 2010

I, too, would like my games to be translated by people who don't know the word "barrier".

# ? Nov 5, 2017 01:08

leather fedora: Jun 27, 2004; The closest acceptable translation is
"die properly"

I would trust post-UFO fan translations over anything produced by a publisher, except for maybe Xseed, so I think it'll turn out fine. It's come a long way from misinterpreting Cirno's theme title, gratuitous profanity, and stuff about barriers (though how "inchling" got picked over "gnome" is beyond me).

Also, it would not surprise me at all if the Mediascape guys (who are tight with ZUN) help coordinate things by translating parts of the store page and maybe pointing out threads on the community page for where to get patches.

# ? Nov 5, 2017 02:43

CuddlyZombie: Nov 6, 2005; I wuv your brains.

Gamerofthegame posted:

bitch get out of the way

I was really distressed to find this removed from THCRAP, and then very relieved to find there's a patch to add it back in.

# ? Nov 5, 2017 03:39

FractalSandwich: Apr 25, 2010

leather fedora posted:

I would trust post-UFO fan translations over anything produced by a publisher, except for maybe Xseed, so I think it'll turn out fine. It's come a long way from misinterpreting Cirno's theme title, gratuitous profanity, and stuff about barriers (though how "inchling" got picked over "gnome" is beyond me).

It's probably actually fine, but I was killed in a tragic barrier-related translation accident, and my vengeful spirit will hold a grudge for 1,000 years.

# ? Nov 5, 2017 03:57

Clarste: Apr 15, 2013; Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

leather fedora posted:

(though how "inchling" got picked over "gnome" is beyond me).

Uh... that was me. I pushed for that. I just thought gnome would bring to mind something closer to D&D or Warcraft, and I felt like a lot of people weren't understanding quite how small she was at the time (despite the needle and bowl in her portrait).

# ? Nov 5, 2017 04:25

Schwarzwald: Jul 27, 2004; Don't Blink

If it's not wearing a red pointed hat then it's not a gnome.

# ? Nov 5, 2017 05:26

SuccinctAndPunchy: Mar 29, 2013; People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

Sea Sponge Run posted:

good man ZUN knows the score

To be honest yeah, I think he's right.

# ? Nov 5, 2017 05:32

mdct: Sep 2, 2011; Tingle tingle kooloo limpah.
These are my magic words.
Don't steal them.

"Inchling" or "lilliputian" are much better and get across her very tiny height than "gnome" or "dwarf" for Shinmyoumaru imo

# ? Nov 5, 2017 07:06

SuccinctAndPunchy: Mar 29, 2013; People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

Mighty Dicktron posted:

"Inchling" or "lilliputian" are much better and get across her very tiny height than "gnome" or "dwarf" for Shinmyoumaru imo

Agreed. "Gnome" doesn't conjure the right image at all. I'm in agreement with Clarste's take, "Gnome" would evoke the red-hatted sort, "Dwarf" would evoke the D&D style, small bearded gruff dude, neither is quite right.

SuccinctAndPunchy fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Nov 5, 2017

# ? Nov 5, 2017 07:53

SirSlarty: Dec 23, 2003; that's wicked

Inchling sounds cuter and fits her character.

# ? Nov 5, 2017 08:06

Meat Beat Agent: Aug 5, 2007; felonious assault with a sproinging boner

I believe "smol bean" is the commonly accepted translation

# ? Nov 5, 2017 09:40

WarpedNaba: Feb 8, 2012; Being social makes me swell!

Meat Beat Agent posted:

I believe "smol bean" is the commonly accepted translation

I think SiIvagunner trademarked that one.

# ? Nov 5, 2017 09:48

Justus: Apr 18, 2006; ...

Captain Invictus posted:

I don't know!!!!

I have seen Spacedrake post fairly recently but aside from that I dunno if CF is still a thing

Didn't he basically work himself sick to the point of near suicide translating Trails in the Sky?

e: yup, I remembered right: https://kotaku.com/the-curse-of-kiseki-how-one-of-japans-biggest-rpgs-bar-1740055631

Justus fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Nov 5, 2017

# ? Nov 5, 2017 14:53

Captain Invictus: Apr 5, 2005; Try reading some manga!; Clever Betty

Justus posted:

Didn't he basically work himself sick to the point of near suicide translating Trails in the Sky?

e: yup, I remembered right: https://kotaku.com/the-curse-of-kiseki-how-one-of-japans-biggest-rpgs-bar-1740055631

jesus christ, I hope he got some therapy

# ? Nov 5, 2017 22:55

sb hermit: Dec 13, 2016

Captain Invictus posted:

I don't know!!!!

I have seen Spacedrake post fairly recently but aside from that I dunno if CF is still a thing

I glanced at a few tweets from the past few months and saw

https://twitter.com/spacedrakecf/status/880214942640623616

and then

https://twitter.com/spacedrakecf/status/904530034119000064

https://twitter.com/spacedrakecf/status/909893479471267840

so it sounds like he�s doing contract work and can�t discuss what he�s working on right now

but otherwise cf is doing ok but just quiet

# ? Nov 6, 2017 00:06

Manyorcas: Jun 16, 2007; The person who arrives last is fined, regardless of whether that person's late or not.

There was a kickstarter between CF and Cavyhouse (This Starry Midnight developers) to get VA in their next game. It didn't go too well because a VR VN is a pretty drat narrow audience, even if the game doesn't need VR to be played at all.

# ? Nov 6, 2017 00:12