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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
Life is hard. This isn’t necessarily MGTOW but it applies here and rock also business and society.

From a YOUNG age I knew that if I wanted to succeed in life, even in a relatively menial way like landing a good corporate job I knew it would be HARD. The world is competitive and in society today you need to limit your fuckups. Every financial decision is critical, life choices are critical, etc. this is reality.

One main reason I am MGTOW and hated my last LTR Bc my SO was forcing me to make bad choices.

This also applies to liberal snowflakes, they don’t believe life should be hard (I think Bc subconsciously it would wreck them if they acknowledged it) therefore they act in these retarded loving ways.

Anyway life is hard as gently caress. And to even have a CHANCE at being successful you need to bring your A loving game all the time. You must build up to it. And you will gently caress up and you will learn. But even when your at the top of your game, that’s when it actually starts. You might work 10yrs towards a goal or mastering a skill and you can finally be ready to ACTUALLY compete.

That’s the loving reality, there are no guarantees either. So good luck brethren. Being MGTOW your already ahead of the game because of your intelligence to even be aware of it, and secondly better off bc you don’t have idiots whores ducking your poo poo up.

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Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Benny Harvey posted:

I just want to reemphasize that I have never hit on waitresses, barmaids or bariste. This was a story you made up to make a point and is not cannon.

Maybe no one wants to date you because you're so incredibly dense you absorb matter and energy so completely that scientists can only observe you indirectly by observing the bending of gravity on nearby bodies i.e. how everyone is dissapointed in you.

It's hard to love someone who thinks the important part of a breakdown of why people aren't into you is clarifying that you never hit on waitresses, like anyone loving cares jfc.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
I'm trying to rent out a room in my house, and the women who have contacted me are something else.

Firstly, I'm not entirely against renting to a woman, although I do have my general reservations about it. From my general experience women don't seem to understand how to clean up after themselves, they try to run things in the house and most seem to need an over the top amount of heat during the winter instead of just bundling up like you're supposed to.

But I digress. I just wanted to put this out there, many of these women have sent me pictures of themselves, as if that is part of my determining factor. On top of this, many don't read the ad fully and tell me they have a cat/dog when it clearly states NO PETS. Also, when I text them back, they take forever to respond and sometimes don't respond at all. A simple, "not interested" would suffice. What also pisses me off, is that they have set up appointments to meet me but are no-shows. I'm used to women being careless, so I've taken the time to text them an hour before we are supposed to meet, only to get a, "oh sorry I was just about to text you," lame rear end excuse. These "people" do not have common courtesy, they don't seem to give a poo poo about anyone but themselves and they are clearly self-entitled dipshits.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

KillerJunglist posted:

I find this annoying because all it requires is that they GO OUTSIDE and maybe find some fun activities near where they live. poo poo, you can look on the internet for interesting places, forest preserves, places to hang out...

Of course this makes the assumption that these people actually find anything fun.

My theory is that most of them are massively depressed and instead of facing that reality (because they're maybe not aware of what depression really is) they choose instead to focus on lamenting not receiving what they perceive to be a panacea which will remain unobtainable to them forever.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


fruit on the bottom posted:

I could be wrong about this, but a lot of my philosophy comes from reading Proverbs written by Solomon. Since I'm agnostic don't expect any preaching from me, but the book really has nothing to do with general Christianity, instead is just the thoughts and observations of certainly someone who today would be considered MGTOW.

So I don't just requote what he wrote. Instead, I'm combining what I read as a teenager, and now having lived a life (around 40 now), I'm talking more from my personal philosophy and experience as a kind of commentary on what he originally wrote.

And he claims at some point it's all futile, so you might as well sit back, enjoy the food, have a glass of wine and be happy.

And really for the most of us (including myself), we are at best a mediocre layer of existence. We're not the worst to hit this planet, and most of us aren't evil or cruel, but neither are we incredibly talented or going to contribute very much to humanity.

The jobs we have, no matter how important we think they are, or how important we think we are, is nothing more than a joke. We could be replaced in a heartbeat, and nothing would change. As a software developer, mostly nothing I've ever worked on has been groundbreaking. A lot of stuff never even got completed or is now no longer even running. Many companies just liquidated or moved on to other things.

The friendships I have are kind of shallow. I have pockets of improvements here and there, but it seems most people only have limited time and the notion of old school friends I abandoned a long time ago.

Not having kids, I have no direct and immediate responsibilities.

So I go to work, I pay my taxes and every few months I get a haircut.

But there's a certain beauty to all of this. Once you realize how obscure and irrelevant you are, and how no one actually gives a poo poo about you, you realize how alone you are. How your purpose and meaning and "keeping your poo poo together" all falls on you, you can't google your way out of this.

And so you should be proud, because no one else is going to congratulate you on your achievements, or how far you've come or the poo poo you've got through. People like us don't get acknowledged or given medals, only you know what you've gone through.

But you should also realize there's some kind of timer running in this life. And I don't really think in the very end it matters but just don't walk around thinking you have forever to get on with stuff. Live with a sense of urgency.

The fact that it comes from a MGTOW sub is pretty lol, but there's nothing really objectionable about this in isolation. Pretty standard existentialism

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
I'm new to MGTOW. I'm in my mid twenties and have never dated. I went straight from college to medical school and during college was very focused on getting into medical school so I avoided women/the party scene. A few months back I stumbled onto Return of Kings which through a series of events led me here. I have found that much of what is here is great but also that I had come to similar conclusions just by living my life up to this point (though this site helped solidify my beliefs). One story that sealed the deal for AWALT happened last week:

I'm on my pediatrics rotation with 3 classmates (all women - this was randomly assigned or I wouldn't have chosen it). We were in a conference room waiting for a lecturer to show up when one of my classmates who I didn't know well (blonde and a generous 6/10) goes into a story about her college boyfriend. "I planned on breaking up with him before starting med school, but then he told me that he paid for us to go down to Mexico for a week. When we flew down there, I checked us in since I speak Spanish. The people at the desk referred to us as 'la pareja' thinking that we had just gotten engaged" (for context, 'la pareja' means 'the couple' in Spanish). She then went on to describe their week and when she was done she casually mentioned that "I stayed with him for another couple months and then med school got hard so I broke up with him." I then asked her (as she went to medical school right out of college as well) if her boyfriend was older and had a stable job so he could pay for the trip. She said (with no guilt at all) "no. He just was good at saving his money and spending it on me." Here's a guy willing to spend money he likely doesn't have in order to try and give his girlfriend a nice time and she already had plans to break up with him. A year ago, I would have been dumbfounded, but this makes sense now because AWALT. To make things even worse, this girl in question has been through like two other guys since then (maybe more on the side) and is currently dating some guy not in med school. But then a visiting student on an Air Force scholarship shows up (this guy is the very definition of Chad) and she immediately starts flirting with him (as does one of the other girls I'm with). I've read more extreme stories on this subreddit than this so I know it's not the greatest out there but it shows even in med school (where you would expect the women to be smart and classy) AWALT. I lot of the guys I'm around are betas who just don't get this stuff so I guess this is my way of introducing myself and saying thank you for being here and showing me I'm not alone.

burial
Sep 13, 2002

actually, that won't be necessary.

I can’t help but wonder how the male applicants differ. In reality, not incel-land. Because I’m guessing it’s either “not at all” or “slightly, but only because they don’t have to worry about the ways in which this guy is creepy.”

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

fruit on the bottom posted:

Life is hard. This isn’t necessarily MGTOW but it applies here and rock also business and society.

From a YOUNG age I knew that if I wanted to succeed in life, even in a relatively menial way like landing a good corporate job I knew it would be HARD. The world is competitive and in society today you need to limit your fuckups. Every financial decision is critical, life choices are critical, etc. this is reality.

One main reason I am MGTOW and hated my last LTR Bc my SO was forcing me to make bad choices.

This also applies to liberal snowflakes, they don’t believe life should be hard (I think Bc subconsciously it would wreck them if they acknowledged it) therefore they act in these retarded loving ways.

Anyway life is hard as gently caress. And to even have a CHANCE at being successful you need to bring your A loving game all the time. You must build up to it. And you will gently caress up and you will learn. But even when your at the top of your game, that’s when it actually starts. You might work 10yrs towards a goal or mastering a skill and you can finally be ready to ACTUALLY compete.

That’s the loving reality, there are no guarantees either. So good luck brethren. Being MGTOW your already ahead of the game because of your intelligence to even be aware of it, and secondly better off bc you don’t have idiots whores ducking your poo poo up.

you're holding it wrong op, life is pretty easy

navier-stoked
Aug 30, 2004

Koyaanisgoatse posted:

The fact that it comes from a MGTOW sub is pretty lol, but there's nothing really objectionable about this in isolation. Pretty standard existentialism

Too bad he wasn't of that other class of humans/existences whose lives have meaning.

edit:

lemon-lyme disease posted:

I can’t help but wonder how the male applicants differ. In reality, not incel-land. Because I’m guessing it’s either “not at all” or “slightly, but only because they don’t have to worry about the ways in which this guy is creepy.”

Who needs facts or stats when you've got confirmation bias and an axe to grind.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Maybe no one wants to date you because you're so incredibly dense you absorb matter and energy so completely that scientists can only observe you indirectly by observing the bending of gravity on nearby bodies i.e. how everyone is dissapointed in you.

It's hard to love someone who thinks the important part of a breakdown of why people aren't into you is clarifying that you never hit on waitresses, like anyone loving cares jfc.

I felt the need to clarify because I despise being defined and categorised by other people, especially when they don't know me. I hate being called a liar when I'm telling the truth or people putting words into my mouth. It makes me feel violated.

I'm clearly not the smoothest guy but I have enough common courtesy not to annoy people doing their job.

In fact your post demonstrates this. You say no-one wants to date me but I have stated several times already that I have had girlfriends.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Koyaanisgoatse posted:

The fact that it comes from a MGTOW sub is pretty lol, but there's nothing really objectionable about this in isolation. Pretty standard existentialism

MGTOW is an almost somewhat positive shell wrapped around a crunchy center of misogyny.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Benny Harvey posted:

I felt the need to clarify because I despise being defined and categorised by other people, especially when they don't know me. I hate being called a liar when I'm telling the truth or people putting words into my mouth. It makes me feel violated.

I'm clearly not the smoothest guy but I have enough common courtesy not to annoy people doing their job.

In fact your post demonstrates this. You say no-one wants to date me but I have stated several times already that I have had girlfriends.
you haven't been honest from the second or third post you've made in this thread because that's when you started contradicting yourself

you are a liar and the first person you lied to was yourself

again, i challenge you: go back and read your poo poo, slowly, and honestly ask yourself how someone might see your posting as disingenuous. there are probably a dozen examples. hell your last post provides at least another two.

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

Coolguye posted:

you haven't been honest from the second or third post you've made in this thread because that's when you started contradicting yourself

you are a liar and the first person you lied to was yourself

again, i challenge you: go back and read your poo poo, slowly, and honestly ask yourself how someone might see your posting as disingenuous. there are probably a dozen examples. hell your last post provides at least another two.

Coolguye, could you stop feeding the Benny?

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

chumbler posted:

MGTOW is an almost somewhat positive shell wrapped around a crunchy center of misogyny.

And I hate every second of it. If r/Incel is Coca-Cola this is the caffeine-free Diet Coke.

MelvinBison
Nov 17, 2012

"Is this the ideal world that you envisioned?"
"I guess you could say that."

Pillbug
Which subreddit's Coke Zero?

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

navier-stoked
Aug 30, 2004

lol how would this loser even know? also what is NBPEL?

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

MelvinBison posted:

Which subreddit's Coke Zero?

I’d guess maybe MensRights or TheRedPill? There’s just a unique blend of fatalism, self-hate, and misogyny that doesn’t really manifest anywhere else in that realm.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



fruit on the bottom posted:

As a 26yr old ... Army vet
ty 4 ur service

Benny Harvey posted:

You say no-one wants to date me but I have stated several times already that I have had girlfriends.
You say I'm worthless, but in actual fact I've given blood before and they gave me a cookie for it so I'm worth at least several cookies - if not more.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Literally A Person posted:

Coolguye, could you stop feeding the Benny?

ok fine

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



ReadingZucchini posted:

lol how would this loser even know? also what is NBPEL?
It's the special non-cheating way of measuring your dick by not taking the ruler and jamming it into your crotch until it hits 'bone'. Non-bone pressed erect length.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


Ghostlight posted:

It's the special non-cheating way of measuring your dick by not taking the ruler and jamming it into your crotch until it hits 'bone'. Non-bone pressed erect length.

In other words, dick size without correcting for FUPA size

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

:tipshat:

navier-stoked
Aug 30, 2004

Ghostlight posted:

It's the special non-cheating way of measuring your dick by not taking the ruler and jamming it into your crotch until it hits 'bone'. Non-bone pressed erect length.

thank you, i was afraid it was going to be something to put me on a terror watchlist like ANFO or something. also these dudes probably stare at the dicks in porn the whole time and get so loving angry.

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014



"Banging his mom," an assumption that people regularly make

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth

fruit on the bottom posted:

This also applies to liberal snowflakes, they don’t believe life should be hard (I think Bc subconsciously it would wreck them if they acknowledged it) therefore they act in these retarded loving ways.

how many levels of rugged individualism do you have to be on to think that life being hard is a good thing and shouldn't be changed?

KillerJunglist
May 22, 2007

Lion of Judah protect you, Jah be praised.

According to most women according to the sad-sack who wrote this.

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!

noether posted:

how many levels of rugged individualism do you have to be on to think that life being hard is a good thing and shouldn't be changed?

no see they think life should be changed, by banning claims of racism and by taking away women’s rights

Because really the bigger issue is that my hate is being challenged

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

noether posted:

how many levels of rugged individualism do you have to be on to think that life being hard is a good thing and shouldn't be changed?

Welcome to the effects of man-focused advertising and "back in the day" 'virtue' signaling. I know I'm probably misusing that dumb phrase.

There is a strong overlap with a certain political leaning.

chumbler fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Nov 6, 2017

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
this is the real translation of plenty of fish's "intentions" that girls add to their profile:

i am looking for casual dating: i want to get hosed by chad just once and then move onto another chad

i want to date but nothing serious: i want to get hosed by chad more than once but i dont mind if he gets replaced with another chad

i want a relationship: i want to get hosed by chad, but i am too much of a liar to pick any of the above 2 options, so i picked this one instead

i am putting serious effort to find someone: i want to lock down a chad, but if it doesn't happen, then i guess i will just have to continue getting pumped n dumped by chads

i am serious and i want to find someone to marry: looking for a rich non-chad who i will cheat on with a chad, and then divorce-rape him in a few years.

be careful out there bros.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

i honestly cannot think of anyone, even the jocks who 'ruled the school', who thinks of middle school as an idyllic time. everyone hated everything, including themse--

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

How does she have no idea of sex but calls herself cum slut?

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

What the gently caress does the temple thing even mean???

KillerJunglist
May 22, 2007

Lion of Judah protect you, Jah be praised.

Oh good, another one of these.

It's so easy to replace "femoid" with "slave" or "sex slave" and it... actually it makes more sense if you do that.

I like the last rule there, although I had to look up "sati". Something tells me if a man enforcing all those rules were to suffer an uncertain death, the woman would be freed and the cops would stop looking for the killer pretty fast.

jizzy sillage
Aug 13, 2006

Almost all of the criteria can be fulfilled by a Fleshlight.

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth
hey folks! have you ever wondered what your sexual market value is? well look no further, cuz I got the internet quiz for you~!

for the boys

for the ladies

I got a 13, which means I'm a classic beta:

heartiste posted:

Classic beta. Your hot friends always gets hit on first, but if you really tramp it up you can snag a slightly better than average guy to take you home for a single night of commitment.

chumbler posted:

Welcome to the effects of man-focused advertising and "back in the day" 'virtue' signaling. I know I'm probably misusing that dumb phrase.

There is a strong overlap with a certain political leaning.

I stg if I ever end up dating a guy long term again and I catch him using MAN SOAP or whatever, I'm gonna dump him on the spot. that whole corner of consumer identity is loving weird

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Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

KillerJunglist posted:

Oh good, another one of these.

It's so easy to replace "femoid" with "slave" or "sex slave" and it... actually it makes more sense if you do that.

I like the last rule there, although I had to look up "sati". Something tells me if a man enforcing all those rules were to suffer an uncertain death, the woman would be freed and the cops would stop looking for the killer pretty fast.

Reminds me of this guy in MO, Ken McElroy. He was the town bully, accused of dozens of felonies, including assault, child molestation, statutory rape, arson, hog and cattle rustling, and burglary.

Anyway, in 1981 he’s shot to death on a busy street in broad daylight, but the “mystery”, such as it is, is that there wasn’t a single witness to the shooting and no one was ever charged.

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goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


fruit on the bottom posted:

this is the real translation of plenty of fish's "intentions" that girls add to their profile:

i am looking for casual dating: i want to get hosed by chad just once and then move onto another chad

i want to date but nothing serious: i want to get hosed by chad more than once but i dont mind if he gets replaced with another chad

i want a relationship: i want to get hosed by chad, but i am too much of a liar to pick any of the above 2 options, so i picked this one instead

i am putting serious effort to find someone: i want to lock down a chad, but if it doesn't happen, then i guess i will just have to continue getting pumped n dumped by chads

i am serious and i want to find someone to marry: looking for a rich non-chad who i will cheat on with a chad, and then divorce-rape him in a few years.

be careful out there bros.

just lol @ using pof

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