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oohhboy posted:Gogo racist Australia! Not only that, but https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/07/turnbull-says-manus-detainees-arent-scared-just-manipulated-by-activists-in-australia posted:He said one of the main reasons why New Zealand had the capacity to make that offer was because it had been a “prime beneficiary” of Australia’s strong border protection policies which had stopped asylum seekers entering New Zealand waters in recent years. Which has us scratching our heads over in OzPol, because that seems like an admission of a pretty blatant violation of international law (even for us) to blockade people heading to New Zealand in international waters without NZ's permission. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Nov 7, 2017 |
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Thanks australians for keeping away all those boat people to protect our housing market.
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exmarx posted:the nats are probably going to have majorities in a couple of select committees, they could be obstructive in those
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MikeJF posted:Not only that, but People heading across 3000 km of open ocean when there's already a developed country in the vicinity. Sure.
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Ghostlight posted:You can't be obstructionist with a majority though. It'll force Labour to ignore select committee recommendations fairly often yeah, but National set plenty of precedent for that. To be honest I think it's more in service of this narrative they're already pushing of an unstable "minority government" coaltion - Bill English came out to meet the Press today with a big poo poo eating grin on his face and his FB post was something to the effect of "answering some questions on the government's rocky start"
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I think I just realized that cooperation is seen as a weakness by national.
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tbh I'm glad labour won, but I don't see why national should feel obliged to help them. we'd be cheering on Labour in the same position
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There's a difference between your Opposition being there not to help you but to pursue and push their own agenda in contrast to your governance, and your Opposition explicitly stating their agenda is to remove and hinder your ability to govern as much as possible. The former is how we've always run things in this country. The latter is Republican strategy since the America dared elect a black man. The main problems with the strategy - effective as making sure nothing gets done is at being able to blame the government for doing nothing come election time - are that, obviously, not much gets done regardless of who's in power, and also that it's built for an adversarial governmental system like FPP. That's fine for National since they think we still have that, but the divide between parties will go beyond mere issues when National is using its 'mandate' to frustrate not just Labour's plans, but NZF's plans, and the Green's plans, and also its own loving policies simply because of who happens to have bums in the power seats when it comes time to vote for them. We will be left with, actually largely what National's own narrative is, that we either have a strong majority National government or a Labour coalition because the other parties are still nursing grudges at National loving up all their bills. Our parties already aren't in good health, and that would be even worse for MMP and our democracy in the long run.
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bike tory posted:RIP Paddles gently caress, I thought Richard Hadlee had died for a second there.
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Varkk posted:Aren’t the majority of bills actually passed with near unanimous votes? It is only the ones you hear about which go strictly down party lines. I wonder if National will start opposing the day to day stuff just because they are in opposition. Yeah if the whips are actually going to have to muster their votes it's usually pretty obvious by the third reading. Like I said, this was a lovely day one stunt so blinglish can kick off his narrative of an unstable minority coalition Efb on Gareth Morgan being a class act
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bike tory posted:RIP Paddles This is clearly an assassination committed by National in an attempt to destabilise the government by targeting Jacinda's family members.  
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Varkk posted:Just adding that Gareth Morgan can go get hosed. Yep
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Varkk posted:Aren’t the majority of bills actually passed with near unanimous votes? It is only the ones you hear about which go strictly down party lines. I wonder if National will start opposing the day to day stuff just because they are in opposition. basically the government can pass whatever they want. select committees can gum up the works a bit, and national can make labour answer heaps of embarrassing questions, but nz is an elected dictatorship (put extremely crudely) so if the government want to pass something they can, barring intra coalition shenanigans. sebmojo fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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How many MPs did Bishop tweet that at? She wasn't the only one E: haha he's been deleting them, that tweet and some others are gone now. Just his one @ julie-anne genter voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M-UyBP4sgo good speech
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i'm all the stuff commentors who are insanely mad at willow-jean prime breastfeeding in the house
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stuff commentator posted:Can I take my baby to work, oh know it’s to dangerous !!! +9
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So this article in the Washington Post is sure something huh? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/11/08/how-the-far-right-is-poisoning-new-zealand/?utm_term=.ba5fe34e9322 (By "something" I mean "trash")
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bike tory posted:So this article in the Washington Post is sure something huh? didn't both labour and the greens campaign on cutting immigration?
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sebmojo posted:didn't both labour and the greens campaign on cutting immigration? Greens walked it back during the campaign.
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Would you still get full marks in the first one if you didn't do a simultaneous equation? It seems like an unnecessary step since you aren't solving for two variables.
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