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Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Sae's a Japanese Prosecutor, so she probably has done a bit of "enhanced" interrogation and retraining of parrots.

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Double Plus Undead
Dec 24, 2010
Considering that he was their adoptive son I'm wondering if they were using him as well, and now that he's dead they've switched to Kawakami to keep the money coming in.

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

Double Plus Undead posted:

Considering that he was their adoptive son I'm wondering if they were using him as well, and now that he's dead they've switched to Kawakami to keep the money coming in.

Probably the reason why the kid had a part time job.

Ugh, the more I think about it the angrier I get.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Double Plus Undead posted:

Considering that he was their adoptive son I'm wondering if they were using him as well, and now that he's dead they've switched to Kawakami to keep the money coming in.

This never occurred to me but now that you've pointed it out it's the only thing I can believe.

megane
Jun 20, 2008



A kid like you could never have pulled off the crimes you did on an empty stomach...you must've had someone skilled at making artisanal cakes and pastries. Who was your baker, Hamiru? I need a name!

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

megane posted:

A kid like you could never have pulled off the crimes you did on an empty stomach...you must've had someone skilled at making artisanal cakes and pastries. Who was your baker, Hamiru? I need a name!

Do you know...the muffin man?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Really Pants posted:

Do you know...the muffin man?

The one who lives in Drury lane?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Double Plus Undead posted:

Considering that he was their adoptive son I'm wondering if they were using him as well, and now that he's dead they've switched to Kawakami to keep the money coming in.

This is what happened, yes. The kid was always exhausted and missing classes because his parents were using him as cheap labor to finance their own lifestyle, which is also why they tried to claw him back after Kawakami started tutoring him, because they needed him to keep working. Eventually they tired him out to the point where he walked into traffic, and without missing a beat they switched to blackmailing his teacher because she cost them their indentured servant.

The Takeses are unbelievably vile people.

Kay Kessler
May 9, 2013

I think the developers expected the players to finish Kawakami's link much later than we currently are. The Mementos targets' crime go up in awfulness as the game progresses, with the last one rivaling a lot of the main story's targets in vileness. They're definitely a step above a burglary ring and a stalker, that's for sure.

Strange Forest
Mar 4, 2015

megane posted:

A kid like you could never have pulled off the crimes you did on an empty stomach...you must've had someone skilled at making artisanal cakes and pastries. Who was your baker, Hamiru? I need a name!

I'm hoping that is our next confidant

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


We're not actually going to be finishing Kawakami for a bit for a few reasons I won't go into just yet. Hopefully we can take the opportunity to rush through some other Confidants like Chihaya or poor Yoshida, who we've been neglecting.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!


Oh hey, a question I knew the answer to.



Yusuke is the biggest goon. It's incredible.



So did they actually care about the kid? Because it seems like they're just exclusive in this for the money.

Edit:

Double Plus Undead posted:

Considering that he was their adoptive son I'm wondering if they were using him as well, and now that he's dead they've switched to Kawakami to keep the money coming in.

That would certainly fit with their established personalities.

Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Nov 6, 2017

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Oxxidation posted:

This is what happened, yes. The kid was always exhausted and missing classes because his parents were using him as cheap labor to finance their own lifestyle, which is also why they tried to claw him back after Kawakami started tutoring him, because they needed him to keep working. Eventually they tired him out to the point where he walked into traffic, and without missing a beat they switched to blackmailing his teacher because she cost them their indentured servant.

The Takeses are unbelievably vile people.

well yeah they're the TAKESes, not the GIVESes

AweStriker
Oct 6, 2014

C. Everett Koop posted:

well yeah they're the TAKESes, not the GIVESes

Actually they're the Takases, but your point stands.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Part 69: 7/17-7/18: Yusuke’s A Nice Boy

All right, time to get sexy!

Also thanks to those of you who pointed out that the Takases were almost certainly pushing their adoptive son into needing several part-time jobs to fund their lifestyle, just like what they're doing with Kawakami. Despicable!



Music: Break it Down



Hey, hurry! The movie’s about to start!

Love Possibly



Sad music is playing.

Stock male protagonist voice: Help her! Please, help her! I don’t care about the money or my social status, please! I just need to tell her how I feel!

Lady Ann’s holding back her tears… She’s totally empathizing… But the movie’s right… A person’s true value isn’t about social standing or wealth.
I feel like I was able to learn about love...

Maaku gains Charm +3.



I guess girls like me want that perfect, romantic kind of love you see in the movies.




Now that I think about it, that movie wasn’t geared toward guys at all, huh? But I’m glad you came with me! You’re such a good friend! Well then, let’s head home.



They’re not bad guys, right? It has nothing to do with us.
Apparently if you post a request on the forum, they’ll do what you say!
If they’re taking out bad guys, it’s fine by me! Keep it up!
Why do we even need the police anymore?

We don’t, friend! gently caress COPS

Anon: A new hero is born!
Anon: YES! gently caress the mafia
Anon: keep your heads on straight
Anon: NO poo poo??? hahaha


Music: Beneath the Mask



Hey, Makoto. Are you going to wear a yukata?
I’m planning on it.
Yukatas are a great part of the summer tradition… They truly heighten a woman’s beauty.



Hey, I know! Why don’t you come without your glasses?

Uh, what? I need these to see.

What’s the point in that?
I dunno, you don’t get to see fireworks every day, so it’d be sad just wearing normal clothes!

...What?

I was just thinking he might want to go for a change of pace.
That sounds great! You should totally come without glasses! Welp, you guys better not be late tomorrow!

This is all code for “gently caress it, we already animated the cutscene.”

Fireworks and yukatas really add to the feeling of summer… Even Lady Ann will be wearing one… ...We definitely have to go to the fireworks festival! Make sure you rest up!



Goodness Food’s stock suddenly plunged, and general unease has spread throughout the market. Since the arson at its affiliate Haneruya, Goodness Food has been desperate to restore its image. With the vice president, who was called in as a trump card, now dead, the company is panicking. Goodness Food’s rivals in the restaurant industry, however, are taking advantage of its slump.
It’s one bad thing after another with this company. Hmm, I wonder if they’re cursed or something.



More aojiru! Maaku gains Knowledge +1.



We can pull Clotho and get a new Lockdown skill! What do we get…?



loving Resist Dizzy. Not even Null Dizzy, Resist Dizzy. I’m hard-pressed to think of a worse result than this. Ugh, let’s never use this again.



I will surely figure out your trick! Oh, I was just about to do a reading for a client, so please stay and watch…

Music: What’s Going On?



Hello there, Mifune-sensei. I can’t wait for today’s session. Your last prediction was practically perfect. By the way, um… who is this boy?
Oh, you needn’t mind him. That’s just my apprentice. If anything, you can think of him as a human-sized stuffed animal. I mean, look how fluffy his hair is.



*nods*
Wait… So he’s OK with working for a woman, even though he’s a guy…? *sigh* Something like that is just unthinkable in my line of work...
I take that to mean something else happened with your job…?
Yes. A male coworker of mine was given all the credit for a successful project I poured my soul into… And do you know what my boss told me? He said it was just the natural order of things, because I’m a woman.
How terrible!
That’s why I’m thinking of leaving and starting up my own business! I’ve actually been planning for some time. I’m not sure if I’ll be able to find a foothold in the market though…
In that case, let’s ask the tarot! Show us the truth, O divine power...



Hm, the cards have appeared in reverse. In other words… it seems as though your business is doomed to failure.
No! Wh-What should I do!?
I’m sorry… but in this case, it appears your fate is inescapable.
Inescapable…?
(to Maaku) What are your thoughts?



Were you even listening? What can we do to help this woman who is so oppressed by the savagery of a male-dominated work environment?



She came here to have her fortune read and to receive advice. Is that honestly your best suggestion? I would advise you to think of something else before I use my divine power to curse you.



I’m not sure I understand what you mean by that. As such, I would suggest you think of something else. I have the power to curse you permanently, you know...



What? It’s a little idealistic to expect that will actually work… Incidentally, what would you say if you wanted to encourage her?



You know we’re talking about her business success, right? This has nothing to do with “the power.”

I couldn’t decide what kind of joke to make here, so pretend I posted a picture of a giant robot playing the keyboard.

Reconsider your answer!



Ah, the Legend of Zelda school of encouragement.



Th-That’s not encouraging; that’s just aggressive! Please reconsider your answer!



Don’t be so irresponsible! That’s simply not an option! How can you expect her to overturn that which is inescapable!?
Overturning fate…? That’s right… I don’t have to follow the rules of this oppressive society! I can do it… I’ll reshape every aspect of my antiquated industry! ...My mind is made up. I’m going to quit my job and set off on my own private business venture! And even if I fail, at least I won’t be wasting away doing busywork for that sexist bastard anymore… Thank you, young man! If you’ll excuse me, Mifune-sensei.
H-Huh…?



The cards will surely back me up on that...



Wh-What!? I-It seems the sequence of cards has changed… Her financial future is now appearing as extremely successful! What did you do…? Are you… Are you psychic? Did you use your powers to change the order of the cards!? My divine power is capable of sending people like you down to the depths of hell, you know!
*shakes head*
Yes… That has to be it. That’s the only way this could happen… Fate cannot be changed. Fate is absolute… That is how it must be.




But if that possibility were the truth, how would I keep my Holy Stone business intact…?




...A-Anyway! You’ve changed the flow of destiny twice now, both times coming before my very eyes… It seems this verification process is turning out to be much more meaningful than I expected!
I can sense Chihaya’s intense motivation...



You’ll come back again soon, right? Promise me!

Okay, jeez, don’t get so clingy. I’m a busy guy, we’ll see.

Well, that’s enough for today. Good night!



Anon: Obviously. Let’s watch!



Right when we were just about to leave too… Who is it?



Oh, sorry. Well, it seems like an insane group is getting ready to declare war on the Phantom Thieves. I was afraid to just hold on to that information myself, so I wanted to tell you at least. That’s actually all I have to say though. Sorry to bother you on your day off.

“Hey, you’re hosed. Laters~” Big help, Mishima. Thanks.

What could he mean by an insane group…? Hm… Let’s think about this after we get back. We don’t have much time, so let’s get going.



OH GOD I CAN’T SEE poo poo



The holiday means it’s as crowded on here as it is for morning rush hour…
Now for today’s Train News. Today’s main topics are… “Fireworks Festival Tonight” Expect roads and transportation to be congested for the whole day. “Sudden Weather Changes Imminent!” Be careful of sudden shifts in climate from afternoon to night.
Wait, so all these people are going to the fireworks festival!? Huh… This should be fun...

Music: Alright



I feel like I’m being baked...
Those girls are way too late...
It must be taking time for them to put on the yukata. Why aren’t you two wearing one?
I don’t got clothes like yukata. But man, you look way too normal in that.
People often say that to me.

For some reason this line consistently makes me crack up. I think it’s just Mercer’s delivery, which has just the subtlest hint of confusion.

Ah, by the way… The exams...
I bet you got a big fat F on them.
Shuddup! We-- We don’t know that yet!



That’s right.
Us too! Wanna go together?
Are we… getting hit on!?
C’mon, let’s go together.
Do you happen to be a model? You look great in that yukata.
Waitin’ around’s a pain, so can we just go with these chicks?



The ratio of guys to girls is off, but we can do something about that later...
That’s enough. You’re disgracing your yukata. You should be more aware of your womanhood.

What a weirdly lovely thing to say, dude. The two leave.





Uh, well… That’s...
You know, Yusuke’s such a pretty boy, but he is really missing out because of what he says.
I guess, but he’s more likable since he stays true to his ideals. Definitely more than somebody I know.
I heard that Ryuji’s pretty much failed his exams.

You heard that from yourself, cat!

Oh?
Mona, you little--
Hey, it’s gonna get crowded if we don’t get going.
Agreed.




Music: Memories of Summer

Fireworks







Ann tries to look above the sea of people, jumping in place.



A drop of rain hits Ann’s cheek.




Another drop hits Morgana, forcing him to hide inside Maaku’s bag.



The rain turns into a downpour.




Later, the group takes refuge under a convenience store sign.



Maaku tries to force water out of his ear.



Ann wrings out her soaked yukata.



Yeah?




I… think the joke here is that they’re ignoring that she needs a towel? I guess? Oh, wait, they were looking at her legs before she noticed them, that's the (lame) joke.



Looks like you need help...




Due to the sudden change in weather, a heavy rain and flood warning has been issued nearby. Since the festival cannot proceed in this weather, we truly apologize for cancelling today’s fireworks show.






On the other side of the street, a girl gets into a black car.

Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)



I guess everyone had the same idea… (to Makoto) What’s up?
Mm, I think I just saw someone I know...
You mean the girl in that black car?

Not really a spoiler but just to be safe: This plot point is never followed up on and does not matter at all to the overall story.

Well, she’s got a ride… Time to show your skills, Mona! We need you as a car!
It’s not possible in the real world!
My feet hurt… It’s cold… The festival’s been canceled… This sucks...
We made such a commotion with the public, and this is what we get? Laaame. Aren’t heroes that lurk in the shadows boring?



Suddenly Maaku's glasses are back on.

What are you, moss!? I wanna change the world with a loud bang, like a huge firework! ...Then again, we aren’t gonna find someone bigger than Kaneshiro that easily.
The rain is letting up. Though it’s regrettable, we should go our separate ways for today.
Yeah. Let’s go home.

Music: Disquiet



I have nothing more to say to you about that.
I see. In that case, I have ways of making you talk.
Huh? What’s that supposed to--
Thanks for the drink.




“I’m home” is pretty good, but “Lover’s quarrel?” is just delightfully stupid.



It’s past closing time. Clean up the place.



Onto other news… The international hacktivist group Medjed has released a statement to the Phantom Thieves.



Music: Disquiet



“To the Phantom Thieves causing an uproar in Japan: Do not speak of your false justice. We do not need the spread of such falsehood. We are the true executors of justice.”
The Phantom Thieves again…?
“However, we are magnanimous. We will give you an opportunity to repent your ways. If you agree to a change of heart, we will accept you as our own. If you reject our offer, the hammer of justice will find you.”
Justice, huh?
“We are Medjed. We are unseen. We will eliminate evil.” Akechi-san, why do you think this announcement was made at this time?



Whether it’s a sense of rivalry or a simple attention grab given the recent trends, I cannot say… Regardless, it’s quite a nuisance.
A nuisance?
Both Medjed and the Phantom Thieves are nothing more than groups that uphold an egoistic justice.
What a stupid thing they’re getting riled up on… Phantom Thieves, huh? What in the world are they? You know about them?

I like how Sojiro somehow has no opinion on the roving band of brainwashers. You’d think they’d be pretty polarizing!



I’m the one asking you. Don’t return a question with another question. Well, it’s about time I go home. Make sure you lock the place up. Also, about the stuff in the fridge-- ...Well, I guess it’s fine. Just don’t use too much of it.



In that respect, the Phantom Thieves face a very serious crime.



This is starting to get interesting!
But why? Did the Phantom Thieves do something to them?
Medjed is really scary...
I’m looking forward to seeing how the Phantom Thieves will deal with it!

Anon: fight justice w/justice
Anon: are they tied to kaneshiro?
Anon: Reduce our cost of living!


“Reduce our cost of living!” is up there for best comment yet.

Music: Beneath the Mask




You mean those guys people online are going nuts over?
Medjed… That name seems to come from one of the obscure gods from the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
I saw the news too. For some reason they think we speak of false justice...
Now then, what exactly did you want to speak of regarding Medjed?
Wellllll, why don’t we go after them as our next target?
What a sudden suggestion.
I mean they’re like, bad hackers or something, right?
Technically, they’re crackers. Those who use the internet to illegally access and alter data. Medjed is an organized group of such people recognized by the larger international community.
So they operate on a global scale?
That makes them even bigger than Kaneshiro!
Right!? Then it’s settled. Our next target’s gonna be Medjed.



Yes. That name has to be a pseudonym. We don’t even know how many people Medjed is.
Oh...
Wouldn’t we get at least one member’s info if we try and look into it though?
Even if we did, how would we discover their location? The only confirmed presence of Medjed has been online.
This is a greater problem than simply finding their keywords. Unless you have any more ideas, Ryuji?

(There’s a brief pause in responses, which is a hilarious touch of verisimilitude)

Hellooo?
...It seems he had suggested this without putting much thought into it.
C’mon, we can’t back down now! People are all excited about it! Our reputation’s gonna plummet if we don’t face this poo poo.
That is true. If we remain silent, people would believe we simply chose to run away from the matter.
Medjed has taunted us publicly, after all...
If they are criminals, we cannot just let them be.
Yeah.



(If you pick the second response Ryuji just says “I doubt it,” it's not as funny as you'd think)

Also, Makoto. Try seeing if your sister has any info on ‘em.
It’s highly unlikely, but sure.
A world-class target, huh? If we can change Medjed’s heart, it’ll most definitely affect Mementos.



“To the Phantom Thieves causing an uproar in Japan: Do not speak of your false justice. We do not need the spread of such falsehood. We are the true executors of justice. However, we are magnanimous. We will give you an opportunity to repent your ways. If you agree to a change of heart, we will accept you as our own. If you reject our offer, the hammer of justice will find you.”
“False justice,” eh? Who do they think they are?

Arist fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Aug 24, 2019

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

The animated cutscenes are oddly insistent on Main Character-kun never having glasses.

Also, look at these mags



Cute Girl, the A Tribe Called Quest fanzine, a magazine for doms and by doms, Close-Quarters Combat monthly, MEN'S RULES

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Arist posted:

Anon: Reduce our cost of living!

Non-sequitur!

I think the joke with Ann was that she was accidentally showing off her legs to the guys while trying to squeeze the water out of her clothes?

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
Oh no, not-anonymous has declared war on a group that does absolutely nothing online or in public

I’m terrified

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Non-sequitur!

I think the joke with Ann was that she was accidentally showing off her legs to the guys while trying to squeeze the water out of her clothes?

That was also a possibility, yes. It's not very clear, though.

E: oh, wait, I get it, they were looking at her legs before the camera panned and she turned her head, that's the joke

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
were the glasses a late design idea then?

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


DeafNote posted:

were the glasses a late design idea then?

The glasses are in the first trailer,, and numerous animated scenes earlier in the game, but for a few scenes later on they're mysteriously absent.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I'm half wondering if this is going to wind up being a major plot point down the line.

Somehow.

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

This seems like a weird scene to animate, it doesn't seem plot important and doesn't have any spectacle worth showing. At least, I'm really hoping that this wasn't a sad excuse to animate a teenager baring her leg.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

kw0134 posted:

This seems like a weird scene to animate, it doesn't seem plot important and doesn't have any spectacle worth showing. At least, I'm really hoping that this wasn't a sad excuse to animate a teenager baring her leg.

Maybe it's a fake-out gag? Something like, "HAHA! You were expecting a nice little scene like the P4 Golden fireworks festival, but instead it is nothing! GET OWNED"

and then Ann gets ogled again, I guess because the writers just can't help themselves

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Well, either Maaku's wearing contacts occasionally, or just wears glasses to look intellectual and doesn't actually need them. Pick the option you like.

Arist posted:


I mean they’re like, bad hackers or something, right?
Technically, they’re crackers. Those who use the internet to illegally access and alter data. Medjed is an organized group of such people recognized by the larger international community.

Always liked the game, and Makoto, for actually mentioning the difference here, as opposed to most media which just lumps them together.

resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007

Battler, the literal stupidest man on earth. Why are you even here, Battler, why did you come back to this place so you could fuck literally everything up?

Lord Koth posted:

Well, either Maaku's wearing contacts occasionally, or just wears glasses to look intellectual and doesn't actually need them. Pick the option you like.

Ding ding ding! Remember the description for his glasses in the inventory is "for looking smart," and also he wasn't wearing glasses in his flashback to before the game... he doesn't really need glasses and either his teammates have cottoned on to that, or were just being random. He just wears them to dilute his "delinquent" image- delinquents don't wear glasses, after all. Science, or something.

I've always really liked the "I like the shade" line and Ryuji's follow up to it.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I was actually aware of the fact that the glasses were cosmetic, it's just funnier to pretend they're not.

Stroth
Mar 31, 2007

All Problems Solved

Lord Koth posted:

Well, either Maaku's wearing contacts occasionally, or just wears glasses to look intellectual and doesn't actually need them. Pick the option you like.

He wears glasses so he looks like a nerdy not-crimeboy.

Manic_Misanthrope
Jul 1, 2010


Lord Koth posted:

Well, either Maaku's wearing contacts occasionally, or just wears glasses to look intellectual and doesn't actually need them. Pick the option you like.


There needed to be a "But people will realise I'm Superman!" response

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

There needed to be a "But people will realise I'm Superman!" response

Cake Knight v. Supercrimeboy: Dawn of Pastries

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

Apparently glasses totally changes your image!

Like magic!

No, not really. For strangers maybe, but people who know you won't ever fall for something like that.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Arist posted:

I was actually aware of the fact that the glasses were cosmetic, it's just funnier to pretend they're not.

Well I sure wasn't.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
You know, I'd like to see how computer hacking interacts with the more computer-bound SMT stuff. Like, right now, Medjed could out the people "pretending" to be the Phantom Thieves, but do they have any idea what that app is actually doing?

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Glazius posted:

Like, right now, Medjed could out the people "pretending" to be the Phantom Thieves, but do they have any idea what that app is actually doing?

It's unlikely that they even have the right identities. They probably don't even know the app is involved, and if they did, then they wouldn't understand it (Philemon's that good of a coder.)

Kal-L
Jan 18, 2005

Heh... Spider-man... Web searches... That's funny. I should've trademarked that one. Could've made a mint.

Blademaster_Aio posted:

Apparently glasses totally changes your image!

Like magic!

No, not really. For strangers maybe, but people who know you won't ever fall for something like that.

Get a load of this guy. Next you'll say that that nerd Clark Kent is Superman!

Arist posted:

We don’t, friend! gently caress COPS

Man, you're already visiting the fancy district with Makoto, and who knows how long Sae has been calling you a NASTY CRIMEBOY! in that dark room. How many hearts of justice-workers will you end up stealing, you fiend?

tomanton
May 22, 2006

beam me up, tomato

Funky Valentine posted:

Also, look at these mags



Cute Girl, the A Tribe Called Quest fanzine, a magazine for doms and by doms, Close-Quarters Combat monthly, MEN'S RULES
The real-life word salad looks more or less the same:

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
GIRL

Rangpur
Dec 31, 2008

Should be shelved next to WOMAN

how do you even make that mistake, drat new hires always misfiling magazines and talking to cats

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME

DeafNote posted:

were the glasses a late design idea then?

The very first trailers already had him with glasses, as you can see with the cutscenes early on in the game, during the intro. My hypothesis is that the protag was due to drop the glasses/switch to contact lenses at some point in the story but they dropped that thread and reshuffled the animated cutscenes around a bit.

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New Wave Jose
Aug 20, 2008
I like the Very magasine

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