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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Lepage is more overtly racist than Trump. That's how bad he is. Also more openly dictatorial, what with his calls to end the free and open press.
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Maine has a huge problem where nothing really lines up with national political parties so you have a bunch of weird stuff like the most liberal republican and an ultra republican governor and a bunch of independents winning stuff. Like maine has a 40% gun ownership rate but like the third lowest per capita murder rate of any state and everyone is generically racist but race is rarely a real issue for voters because everyone is already white and people don't really move here much at all.
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Office Pig posted:Also more openly dictatorial, what with his calls to end the free and open press. and more stupid. He tried a pocket veto but it backfired. I think that was him. Why is his state terrible/why did they elect him in the first place?(besides too many white people)
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Amused to Death posted:So Le Page is saying he won't implement medicaid expansion Le Page is a walking argument to bring back drawing and quartering.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Maine has a huge problem where nothing really lines up with national political parties so you have a bunch of weird stuff like the most liberal republican and an ultra republican governor and a bunch of independents winning stuff. Maine is woods and a seaside. The state has like 97% tree cover. Also Portland.
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PhazonLink posted:and more stupid. He tried a pocket veto but it backfired. I think that was him. Vote splitting. 
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PhazonLink posted:and more stupid. He tried a pocket veto but it backfired. I think that was him. Three-way race between LePage, the Democratic candidate, and independent candidate Eliot Cutler, where Cutler ate into the Democrat's numbers and allowed LePage to win with a plurality. This happened twice.
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No wonder the people voted in ranked-choice voting!
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Lightning Knight posted:Isn't Le Page the psycho governor? Yes, but Eliot Cutler is the Third Way rear end in a top hat who split the Democratic vote both times and allowed LePage to win with like 38%.
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Lightning Knight posted:Isn't Le Page the psycho governor? "The mayor's a ni*BONG*"
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Amused to Death posted:So how is the count on the Virginia assembly looking? I was wondering this myself. Are we at +15 or +16? The latter is a guaranteed tie in the legislature, the former is a 1-vote minority...
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Amused to Death posted:So how is the count on the Virginia assembly looking? Recounts. 49-47 are the current confirmed/conceded counts. Looks like a 50-50 split at the moment, but it could easily tip in favor of the dems if that 12-vote R district flips.
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B B posted:I don't like this, but only because it presumes Democrats lose 2020. President Duckworth's health takes an abrupt turn for the worse (  ), Acting President Kamala Harris decides not to run in 2024
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Handsome Ralph posted:Yeah I'm really jazzed to see where Fairfax ends up. Well, I can more or less guarantee that he'll be frontrunner for the Democratic nomination for governor four years from now, that being the real purpose of the position of Lieutenant Governor.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:President Duckworth's health takes an abrupt turn for the worse ( obviously Bernie will be too old to run for a second term. Besides, having brought about the dictatorship of the proletariat, his work will be done by then anyways.
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Quorum posted:Well, I can more or less guarantee that he'll be frontrunner for the Democratic nomination for governor four years from now, that being the real purpose of the position of Lieutenant Governor. Not Mark Herring? He's in his second term as VA AG and he might be looking for the big chair next time...
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Ragnar34 posted:Do we have any interesting dem candidates yet? Is Roem eligible? How about that Sikh guy, he seems cool. Let's have a low drama infrastructure-focused president. The 2024 ad campaign writes itself.
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Amused to Death posted:So how is the count on the Virginia assembly looking? https://twitter.com/vpapupdates/status/928239402505179141 50/50 right now with 3 GOP wins and 1 Dem win up for recount/provisional ballot counting. One of those 3 GOP wins was by 12 votes. I've got hope.
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The House of Delegates wins could mean huge changes for Northern Virginia. https://www.arlnow.com/2017/11/08/democratic-gains-in-va-house-give-arlington-officials-hope/ ARLNow posted:
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Ragnar34 posted:Do we have any interesting dem candidates yet? Is Roem eligible? How about that Sikh guy, he seems cool. Let's have a low drama infrastructure-focused president. The 2024 ad campaign writes itself. People just getting elected to mayor and to state houses aren't going jump to presidential material in 3 years, they need time to work up the chain
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Ague Proof posted:Vote splitting. Who the gently caress is Eliot Cutler and why didn't he get a clue
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Ague Proof posted:Vote splitting. If you, as an electorate, fall for this twice, you kinda get the government you deserve.
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Non-ranked voting systems suck Instant runoff and STV everywhere please
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I'd put more blame on the Democrats in 2010 for getting Lepage elected in the first place.
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https://twitter.com/vpapupdates/status/928340923817349121 poo poo
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Hey man, don't sweat it. Even if you don't take the majority, you overperformed and have another shot in two years. You done good kid. 
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mcmagic posted:If you, as an electorate, fall for this twice, you kinda get the government you deserve. just look at all the people who were old enough to remember ralph nader fervently posting in support of jill stein voting
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Actually taking control of the HoD this year was on nobody's radar two days ago. Still gettable votes for poo poo like Medicaid expansion, and they can't ram through a nonsense district map with a majority this slim.
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evilweasel posted:just look at all the people who were old enough to remember ralph nader fervently posting in support of jill stein voting To be fair to the people of Maine, after it happened they went "God drat it!" and passed a referendum to have ranked voting as was said. It's not like they are unaware or uninterested in how they got hosed here. They'd be the first in the nation to have a system like that, which isn't a small feat. Of course the legislature put it off til 2022, hoping it will fail to be worded legally acceptable because of their Constitution, but if people are simply as motivated as they were to pass it it'll still make it. At which point Maine will have a system that allows you to vote for the guy you really want and still avoid the guy you really don't.
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Lightning Knight posted:Hey man, don't sweat it. Even if you don't take the majority, you overperformed and have another shot in two years. You done good kid. A tie would be really good. Still a chance of a whole lot more back and forth on this. They also noted that they mistyped and the GOP lead in that race is now 115 votes, not 15. https://twitter.com/vpapupdates/status/928344002172276737 https://twitter.com/vpapupdates/status/928344261543817216 https://twitter.com/vpapupdates/status/928344638611709952
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axeil posted:A tie would be really good. Still a chance of a whole lot more back and forth on this. They also noted that they mistyped and the GOP lead in that race is now 115 votes, not 15. I asked in the Trump thread, but what are provisional ballots in VA like? Do people who voted provisionally need to show up with ID, do anything, or what's the story there?
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i wouldn't freak out about the periodic updates, they're going to be tweaking the counts all day. right now it's 48 D - 47 R outside the <%1 margin for recounts, with the 5 seats too close to certify all being Rep-held seats (in one of them a Democrat is leading by >300 votes, and in another the incumbent Republican is only leading by 12 votes, and that's without counting provisional votes which pretty universally skew Democratic) the worst-case scenario if all the too-close-to-call races stay red after re-canvassing and recounting is still better than the best-case scenario anyone could have dreamed up 24 hours ago
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I did my own research:quote:Provisional Ballots are not counted on Election Day. Your local Electoral Board will meet the day after the election to begin its determination of provisional votes. Voters who did not present photo ID have until noon on Monday after the election to present photo ID. The votes of qualified voters will then be counted and included in the results for your locality. If you're in Virginia you should make very sure everyone who you know knows that if they voted by provisional ballot they have to do this asap. Especially if they're in one of those 5 tossups: even if nobody you know didn't have ID, they may know someone who didn't.
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This time yesterday a 4 point Northam win with the Dems taking 7 delegate seats would have been seen as a great result. So it's kind of funny how I'm kind of depressed now that the Dems might end up with "just" 15 or 16 delegate seats amid a 9 point Northam runaway. Politics are a bitch. Really good things can still be accomplished in Virginia even if the Dems don't quite have a majority right?
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evilweasel posted:what's provisional ballot checking like in VA? what needs to happen for them to be counted? Glad you asked! There are 3 categories that make you cast a provisional ballot: Non-registered No ID Other The total number of provisional ballots cast was 4,842. However the key thing is how many are in each of these House of Delegates races which unfortunately the VA Elections website doesn't list. For historical reference this is what happened in 2013's AG race: Wikipedia posted:On the night of the election (November 5th, 2013), Obenshain held a 1,200 vote lead over Herring. Vote totals fluctuated as ballots were canvassed in the following days, and the race remained too close to call. On November 12, 2013, with all ballots counted, Herring held a 165-vote lead, or less than 0.01%, and Obenshain requested a recount. Herring's total increased during the recount, so Obenshain conceded the election on December 18, 2013, and later that day, the recount ended with Herring winning by 907 votes, or 0.04%. So it might be a while before we know what the hell happened.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:This time yesterday a 4 point Northam win with the Dems taking 7 delegate seats would have been seen as a great result. So it's kind of funny how I'm kind of depressed now that the Dems might end up with "just" 15 or 16 delegate seats amid a 9 point Northam runaway. no doubt. the whole House of Delegates is up again in 2019 which will be another Trump midterm if he manages to stay in office that long, and there are a lot of Republican incumbents who won by small enough margins against unheralded challengers who are going to be pretty desperate to demonstrate some bipartisan bona fides. Northam just has to coax a couple of them to pass something
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The Glumslinger posted:People just getting elected to mayor and to state houses aren't going jump to presidential material in 3 years, they need time to work up the chain Nah, they could probably manage it if they try really hard. I mean like REALLY hard though, so don't tell me I'm being unrealistic. 
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Charlottesville VA had a turbaned Sikh mayor a few years ago! It’s roughly the same size as Hoboken
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Ragnar34 posted:Nah, they could probably manage it if they try really hard. I mean like REALLY hard though, so don't tell me I'm being unrealistic. Well, the really young guy who won on gun control I'm pretty sure literally won't be old enough to be eligible lol
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