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Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.
You can probably do the same with baron xxash in Anthem

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Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene
anthem looks like division-destiny so maybe good if its RoI Destiny 1 and Division 1.6+

but its current bioware so Destiny 2 and Division 1.1 it is

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

I have a hard time imagining bioware making good gunplay.

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.
I thought me 2 was pretty decent on that aspect

Magus42
Jan 12, 2007

Oh no you di'n't

cougar cub posted:

I have never seen guided games with less than a 20 minute wait time to find partners. Be prepared to stare at your ship for awhile.

I didn't say it was fast matchmaking :)

teh_Broseph
Oct 21, 2010

THE LAST METROID IS IN
CATTIVITY. THE GALAXY
IS AT PEACE...
Lipstick Apathy

big nipples big life posted:

I bet in less than 21 minutes you could hop in one of the 10 trillion discords in this thread and say "Hey anyone want to do the nightfall?" and you could be done with the nightfall before the queue ends.

I tried in 2 of the discords and only got one person over 15+ minutes - when ya run on working dad time where you just have an hour here and there to play games it's real frustrating to have a bideo gaem ask me to spend 5-10+ minutes of the hour trying to find people to play with in TYOOL 2017.

khy
Aug 15, 2005

big nipples big life posted:

I have a hard time imagining bioware making good gunplay.

I can see them making good gunplay but my bigger concern is that Anthem is an EA game so it'll be full of a billion microtransactions and be horribly P2W.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch

A Buff Gay Dude posted:

Actually on console release you couldn't access mods via API, it was added right before pc release.

but why should you have to? Just like shaders where there's about 55 and you have 50 slots, they could increase the carry size by a small amount and avoid the issue completely.

Maybe there's a memory issue again like back in D1 that they had to address to have more size. Maybe the UI guys liked the idea of the consistent icon size and that's why there's only 50 as the one page, and two pages was overkill. Either way I don't care - it's an annoying system to work with and it's embarrassing considering half the endgame is applying mods and shaders to your poo poo.

Back when Destiny 1 was out they said the inventory and vault issues were due to the last gen systems not being able to handle storing that many things (what?) but now it’s obvious that they just loving suck rear end at UI and didn’t do a loving thing between 1 and 2.

Seriously what the hell was most of Bungie doing during Destiny 2’s development? Did character designers and menu devs just get a massive vacation?

Zedsdeadbaby posted:

We had radar-less playlist in D1, it sucked. Everyone just sat in corners and didn't move. It was eventually removed.

This is what happens when you make loadout based PvP and there’s zero reason to ever move around the map to pick anything up or control an area.

Legs Benedict
Jul 14, 2002

You can either follow me to our bedroom or bend over that control throne because I haven't been this turned on in FOREVER!

Yodzilla posted:

Seriously what the hell was most of Bungie doing during Destiny 2’s development? Did character designers and menu devs just get a massive vacation?

game probably started prepro in late 2014/early 2015, after taken king came out (late 2015) they immediately switched luke smith on to lead the D2 team because something had gone seriously wrong and there was no way they were meeting the original 2016 date, so we got Rise of Iron instead

wouldn’t surprise me if D2 has actually only been in active development for 16-18 months

Bungie’s development process sucks rear end

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

teh_Broseph posted:

I tried in 2 of the discords and only got one person over 15+ minutes - when ya run on working dad time where you just have an hour here and there to play games it's real frustrating to have a bideo gaem ask me to spend 5-10+ minutes of the hour trying to find people to play with in TYOOL 2017.

Lmao this is hilarious. I don't know which discord you are using but in the main destiny goons one (the Moana one) and the Hotdog PC specific one it's never an issue. Unless I guess you are trying to get a nightfall going at like 3am or something. I've never had it take longer than like, a couple minutes to get a nightfall group and then it's like what, ten minutes for the nightfall itself?

Plus, if you make new friends from the discord, you can eventually look and see if any of them are online, and just ask them directly if you want to nightfall.

Yes it sucks there's not just nightfall matchmaking, no it's not hard to get around though.

And frankly when I pubbie strike and see how many kills I'm getting vs them or orbs created I do not actually think the nightfall would be that easy if it were match made.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
Cosmic dad brain is posting in a Discord during your lunch break to ask if other dads wanna do a Nightfall at around 7PM later that day or whatever so you waste as little leisure time doing nothing

Tei
Feb 19, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 34 hours!

big nipples big life posted:

I have a hard time imagining bioware making good gunplay.

Maybe they can hire a different company to do that. All MP mass effect modes where fun, but the weapons where piss poor. Literaly piss.


It would be good for Bungie to have competition, so they one up themselves.

Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001

Being a gaming dad is hard.

teh_Broseph
Oct 21, 2010

THE LAST METROID IS IN
CATTIVITY. THE GALAXY
IS AT PEACE...
Lipstick Apathy

DrNutt posted:

Lmao this is hilarious. I don't know which discord you are using but in the main destiny goons one (the Moana one) and the Hotdog PC specific one it's never an issue. Unless I guess you are trying to get a nightfall going at like 3am or something. I've never had it take longer than like, a couple minutes to get a nightfall group and then it's like what, ten minutes for the nightfall itself?

Plus, if you make new friends from the discord, you can eventually look and see if any of them are online, and just ask them directly if you want to nightfall.

Yes it sucks there's not just nightfall matchmaking, no it's not hard to get around though.

And frankly when I pubbie strike and see how many kills I'm getting vs them or orbs created I do not actually think the nightfall would be that easy if it were match made.

I kick it in hot dogs - is the main one the one that I think just got a new icon and named Trials of the Naan->#d2_pc_chat_lfg? That's the other spot I've had open but there are like 8 different discord links in the OP. Do I just ask in there or do I need to see what's up with the !lft business? (Pretend I took a screencap of me asking in there with no responses and some lololroflmao)

I took a few days off last week for some wife and baby free gaming time and it was tha bessssttttt.

Kaedric
Sep 5, 2000

I dunno why folks like war rig so much. It's not often I'm just massively unloading with a gun for that long to where it would matter.

For me it's PVE: Skullfort for infinite turning your own body into a grenade and then throwing a free grenade and PVP: synthoceps for SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER teleports into people's faces and punching them.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

I like playing a character with very minimal reloading sometimes

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene

Kaedric posted:

I dunno why folks like war rig so much. It's not often I'm just massively unloading with a gun for that long to where it would matter.

For me it's PVE: Skullfort for infinite turning your own body into a grenade and then throwing a free grenade and PVP: synthoceps for SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER teleports into people's faces and punching them.

You missed the great calus dps comp era but war rig absolutely slays in terms of damage per second.

War rig and sweet Business is one of the few legitimately special loadouts in the game.

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Kaedric posted:

I dunno why folks like war rig so much. It's not often I'm just massively unloading with a gun for that long to where it would matter.

At least 25% of the attraction is War Rig's inherent Schwarzenegger factor

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

teh_Broseph posted:

I kick it in hot dogs - is the main one the one that I think just got a new icon and named Trials of the Naan->#d2_pc_chat_lfg? That's the other spot I've had open but there are like 8 different discord links in the OP. Do I just ask in there or do I need to see what's up with the !lft business? (Pretend I took a screencap of me asking in there with no responses and some lololroflmao)

I took a few days off last week for some wife and baby free gaming time and it was tha bessssttttt.

The main one is trials of the naan. Typically I check in hot dogs first and if I don't get a group I move to the main one. For night falls and poo poo don't worry about the !lfg tags and whatnot, just pop into general or one of the lfg channels and introduce yourself and ask if anyone wants to nightfall. A lot of dudes are like me and we just play solo until we see people looking for groups, and then we hop in.

I've seriously not once had a group fizzle out or fail, there are seemingly always at least two other people who are down.

Now, it can get a little more tricky on Sundays or Mondays because at that point a lot of people have run that content and don't need to do it again until the weekly reset, but even then some people are still willing to help out.

Zhulik
Nov 14, 2012

The Montreal Star

Norns posted:

I like playing a character with very minimal reloading sometimes

I've never felt a tension like this before. That's so different from simply changing a clip! This reload time is exhilarating!!!

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde

fadam posted:

If all gear is class restricted, how does having multiple characters help boost light levels? Just by incrementing higher and higher weapon drops?

It won't work if you play more of the same class however, they nerfed payouts for multiple characters of the same class.

Edit: sorry I misread.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
i dont have a skullfort so war rig is basically on my titan 100% of the time. autorifles are the best and its really convenient being able to reload without having to interrupt your sprinting, as well as passively reloading while you do literally anything else as well. i don't really care about the minmaxing of DPS personally but once you get used to almost never having to reload it makes it comparatively annoying when you have to reload every dozen shots with other guns

also the ammo belts look is indeed cool

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Zhulik posted:

I've never felt a tension like this before. That's so different from simply changing a clip! This reload time is exhilarating!!!

K

Mae
Aug 1, 2010

Supesudandi wa, kukan-nai no dandidesu

Zhulik posted:

I've never felt a tension like this before. That's so different from simply changing a clip! This reload time is exhilarating!!!

I love the feeling of sliding a long silver bullet into a well oiled chamber

Tei
Feb 19, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 34 hours!
http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Anarchy_(Gaige)

Anarchy stacks with a Machinomant changed videogames to me. Getting basically infinite power by never reloading is another era of gaming and a religious transformative experience.


Ultimate power guys, just by teaching yourself the skill of never ever reloading.


This is what happends if you reload:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNQBheoCiVo

Tei fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Nov 9, 2017

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.
Speaking of Destiny 2 competitors, I'm surprised Borderlands 3 hasn't been kicking up much of a stink lately. If it exists it would be an even bigger deal than Anthem, honestly.

edit: and the inevitable Division 2, surprised a developer like Ubisoft hasn't gotten round to it yet. Or maybe they're deep into development already.

Zedsdeadbaby fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Nov 9, 2017

Tei
Feb 19, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 34 hours!

Zedsdeadbaby posted:

Speaking of Destiny 2 competitors, I'm surprised Borderlands 3 hasn't been kicking up much of a stink lately. If it exists it would be an even bigger deal than Anthem, honestly.

edit: and the inevitable Division 2, surprised a developer like Ubisoft hasn't gotten round to it yet. Or maybe they're deep into development already.

The problem of Borderlands has always been the lack of endgame and lack of quality. The last borderlands (the prequel) had at some points the quality a bad mod done by a retarded 13 years old with MsPaint. And not "bad" in a funny way.

Games like The Division had the same problem. Lack of solid endgame.

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
The Division at launch was also a buggy, hack-riddled trainwreck, but from what I hear they cleaned that up?

quite stretched out
Feb 17, 2011

the chillest
yeah but otoh the gameplay itself is unsatisfying because you have to shoot a regular rear end human dude in the head 20 times with a sniper rifle before he dies just because mmo gameplay expectations dictate that he has to have x health in order to be more difficult

BleepBlip
Jul 22, 2003

"These kind of skills?"

Dietrich posted:

Being a gaming dad is hard.

I platinumed D1 and raided every week while they were relevant/exciting. Then my 1st daughter was born two days before D2 release and now I'm 267 and haven't touched the raid on PS4 or PC. No-Pause games are rough af and mostly I just play the Switch while hiding in the bathroom.

bewilderment
Nov 22, 2007
man what



Tei posted:

The problem of Borderlands has always been the lack of endgame and lack of quality. The last borderlands (the prequel) had at some points the quality a bad mod done by a retarded 13 years old with MsPaint. And not "bad" in a funny way.

Games like The Division had the same problem. Lack of solid endgame.

Borderlands, much like Destiny/2 and The Division, are games that have a story and an end.

You buy the game, you play the story, you get the level you want, you do the fun activities you want, and you can stop.

There's no subscription fee. Nobody is saying "you must play this game or you will have wasted resources!"

I don't understand this talk of 'endgame'. You did it guys! You played the game! Not the endgame, the whole game! If you like it you can keep playing it and if you don't like repeating bits of it you can move to another game, just like literally every other game that doesn't have recurring fees.
Nobody's like "ugh, Uncharted 2 was a good game, but the lack of endgame really hurt it" and that game is only like 8 hours long.]

e: Crucible still bad and Nightfall non-matchmaking still dumb, i am not uncritical

bewilderment fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Nov 10, 2017

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

Some people in here considered it a grind but bouncing back and forth between public events on Titan, capturing supply caches, and murdering minibosses is incredibly fun

Magus42
Jan 12, 2007

Oh no you di'n't
And then pick it up for a few more weeks every time an expansion drops, then put it down again, etc.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 34 hours!

bewilderment posted:

Borderlands, much like Destiny/2 and The Division, are games that have a story and an end.

You buy the game, you play the story, you get the level you want, you do the fun activities you want, and you can stop.

There's no subscription fee. Nobody is saying "you must play this game or you will have wasted resources!"

I don't understand this talk of 'endgame'. You did it guys! You played the game! Not the endgame, the whole game! If you like it you can keep playing it and if you don't like repeating bits of it you can move to another game, just like literally every other game that doesn't have recurring fees.
Nobody's like "ugh, Uncharted 2 was a good game, but the lack of endgame really hurt it" and that game is only like 8 hours long.]

e: Crucible still bad and Nightfall non-matchmaking still dumb, i am not uncritical

I never realized a endgame is neccesary until I finished Hellgate London. HL was a game that had absolutelly nothing to do 3 minutes after finishing it.

D1 had it, and D2 barely had it.

el B
Jan 30, 2004
holler.

bewilderment posted:


I don't understand this talk of 'endgame'.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
It's cuz we like the game and want content that actually forces us to interact with eachother and the games systems in a meaningful way and find almost all of the content the game comes with unsatisfactory in that regard ya dorks

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
People are satisfied with uncharted 2 because it is a satisfactory experience, not one that leaves you wandering if that's all it has to offer

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Comparing a game with interesting systems that's made up of 95% faceroll content, a bad story, boring characters and bad PvP to a game with just enough meat to keep you pulling through its good story with lovable characters and p good multiplayer is funny tho

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch
Yeah if the campaign was actually good I wouldn't be disappointed with "endgame" content but it's not. It's extremely not a satisfying experience.

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Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




quite stretched out posted:

yeah but otoh the gameplay itself is unsatisfying because you have to shoot a regular rear end human dude in the head 20 times with a sniper rifle before he dies just because mmo gameplay expectations dictate that he has to have x health in order to be more difficult

"Okay, we have multiple human factions. There's just, like, regular bandits. And a bunch of criminals that broke out of jail. And then there's the last battalion, who are elite mercs who're holding on to the best stuff for themselves. And then there's the cleaners, who decided to take things into their own hands and are using homemade flamethrowers to burn out the disease."

"Oooh? Is the disease some kind of bioweapon that creates zombies or mutants and poo poo, that's why they're using flamethrowers?"

"Oh no, it's just a superbug."

Seriously wasted potential there Ubi.

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