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trump loves this part of the job he's basically in what he probably thinks is an asian themed amusement park and he gets to feel appreciated and important without having to do any real work
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Nov 10, 2017 04:07
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ok so i lied and only watched the first 20 minutes of that video but in the last two they start making "i identify as an attack helicopter" jokes and claim americans never tell people to leave their country if they don't like it. so now i'm glad they don't feel welcome here
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Nov 10, 2017 04:09
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Folks, America and Britain? They're not sending us their best.
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Nov 10, 2017 04:12
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Yandat posted:trump loves this part of the job he's basically in what he probably thinks is an asian themed amusement park and he gets to feel appreciated and important without having to do any real work Hell same International Trump is best Trump
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Nov 10, 2017 05:15
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the other thing they don't seem to get, based on how much they harp on wanting to assimilate and wanting to "become chinese" is: that doesn't happen anywhere and believing you, the exceptional individual, can change this is itself a form of chauvinism.
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Nov 10, 2017 07:26
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it does actually happen in america though
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Nov 10, 2017 07:56
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Chinese people are extremely xenophobic, also see: Korea, Japan, most Asian countries to my knowledge? From my exp though it's mostly the old people though, unless you're a brown Asian, then everyone will be racist to you
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Nov 10, 2017 07:58
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also maybe australia basically in any new-world colonies, I'd argue it's very possible, with some obviously more than others
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Nov 10, 2017 07:59
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rudatron posted:it does actually happen in america though lol
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Nov 10, 2017 08:00
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western countries are actually good on some things, better than places like china even, and one of those things is actually xenophobia, believe it or not and I know that's heresy for you, because for you, west == evil, but it's still true you can legitimately 'become american', in the eyes of the majority of americans, if you adopt american behavioral norms. the same absolutely is not true of china, or japan, or whatever
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Nov 10, 2017 09:32
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America is racist in a different, more domestic way, like a conservative would probably have a lot more "respect" for an immigrant from Ghana then a black guy from East phoenix or south Detroit.
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Nov 10, 2017 09:36
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really can't wait to become a full legal citizen of china so i can live there forever and die of lung cancer at the tender age of 55
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Nov 10, 2017 12:26
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What did the outside world ever do to China anyway?
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Nov 10, 2017 13:28
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it’s me i’m all of the non-ethnically chinese on china’s olympic team, just like how all those western countries do it
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Nov 10, 2017 15:16
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:What did the outside world ever do to China anyway? Had a real good go at destroying face culture but failed anyway
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Nov 10, 2017 15:25
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even if the US had been subject to a large scale invasion by mexico, that still wouldn't justify prejudice against mexicans the real issue here is that many leftists often refuse to either acknowledge the existence of, or treat with any seriousness, xenophobia and racism when expressed by any non-developed countries, because it runs counter to the easy narrative used to justify white guilt or whatever, and for fears that such admissions would be used to itself justify prejudice take home ex's reply: R. Guyovich posted:the other thing they don't seem to get, based on how much they harp on wanting to assimilate and wanting to "become chinese" is: that doesn't happen anywhere and believing you, the exceptional individual, can change this is itself a form of chauvinism.
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Nov 10, 2017 15:30
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Maybe home ex is a massive fan of China's education system teaching rote learning instead of critical thinking since you just put more thought into it than he ever has
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Nov 10, 2017 16:00
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rudatron posted:even if the US had been subject to a large scale invasion by mexico, that still wouldn't justify prejudice against mexicans Rudatron is in extremely bad take mode today, I see.
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Nov 10, 2017 16:08
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it's not just home ex, or anything particular to him, and I don't want it to seem like i'm picking on him, as an individual. Pener's reply is sort of in the same vain, but it's a much broader issue whenever it comes to issues in the west, that's the west's fault, but any issues outside the west...that's also the west's fault, or it's somehow not a problem and a result of different cultural standards (bullshit), or it's eurocentric or chauvanistic to point out the problem, because you're tying to impose your standards on them, so that's basically colonialism, and blah blah blah. basically, moral responsibility is shifted and distributed not according to any consistent system, but according to ideological/political utility. To admit that issues like racism and xenophobia are not merely present, but worse, and domestically caused, in places like china, would be to undermine the entire set of 'woke' ideology, that these problems are somehow specific to the west, and a result of particular western values, or imperialism, or whatever. HomeEx and pener (and of course, many others, not just on this site, but broadly), as adherents of that ideology, can't ever admit anything that contradiction, so the 'nexus of blame' is shifted, from china, to 'arrogant/chauvinistic expats', in a way that they wouldn't ever accept were it done for the US but why? and not just on this issue, but more generally: why does it always seem, that people find it easier to tack-on ad-hoc bullshit, before they ever identify and accept the contradictions? The answer I've come to is: vulnerability. No one wants to just put their loving cards on the table, because that's granting someone else power. So you create these elaborate + stupid rhetorical rube goldberg machines, to try and hide everything, to retroactively justify whatever you said, just to save face. but the brain doesn't have great short term memory, so eventually you forget the reason why you built these mental contraptions in the first place, and you start believing your own bullshit. rudatron has issued a correction as of 16:40 on Nov 10, 2017 |
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Nov 10, 2017 16:36
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I'm not reading that, lol.
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Nov 10, 2017 16:36
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I'm not reading that, lol. then shut the gently caress up already
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Nov 10, 2017 16:37
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I'm not reading that, lol. For someone who frequently posts long tedious bullshit this is a bit much
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Nov 10, 2017 16:40
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Barbe Rouge posted:then shut the gently caress up already Sorry for not entertaining a Chinese Are The Real Racists discussion, because my white guilt refuses to accept that non-Europeans are problematic.
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Nov 10, 2017 16:41
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I'm not reading that, lol. And you knew I had to post it. that is the tao of this thread
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Nov 10, 2017 16:47
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Sorry for not entertaining a Chinese Are The Real Racists discussion lol, he didn't say that at all
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Nov 10, 2017 16:52
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rudatron posted:I know you won't read it. I maintain nonetheless that yin-yang dualism can be overcome. With sufficient enlightenment we can give substance to any distinction: mind without body, north without south, pleasure without pain. Remember, enlightenment is a function of willpower, not of physical strength.
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Nov 10, 2017 16:53
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Ace of Baes posted:Chinese people are extremely xenophobic, also see: Korea, Japan, most Asian countries to my knowledge? china is racist as gently caress when I was back in my china and talking to my cousins they were flat out like I hate muslims it's kinda masked because ethnic minorities are so small and concentrated in fringe areas of the country that you can go through half your life in China and only talk to other ethnic han so the racist and xenophobia is also a lot more abstract than america
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Nov 10, 2017 17:59
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The uyghur's aren't having a good time of it
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Nov 10, 2017 18:01
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Jose posted:The uyghur's aren't having a good time of it china is literally running the equivalent of palestine in xinjiang where they flooded the province with ethnic chinese settlers until the uyghur are a minority in their own homeland
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Nov 10, 2017 18:02
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They talked about the current state of Uighur-Han relations on the new Radio War Nerd with Carl Zha. Apparently Uighurs like to tell jokes and play pranks, and those have been the basis of social media rumors that end up turning into pogroms.
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Nov 10, 2017 18:32
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I'm not reading that, lol. oh no, reasonable and argumentative posts that run counter my ideological presets, quick, refuse to engage
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Nov 10, 2017 18:47
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What, exactly, does the nerve stapling procedure entail? I never read the lore
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Nov 10, 2017 19:16
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Tias posted:What, exactly, does the nerve stapling procedure entail? I never read the lore I don't remember the game ever going into specifics, actually. Leaving it to the imagination is probably a better approach anyway.
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Nov 10, 2017 19:17
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Finished a game as Miriam. Planet turned into a race between my armies and implacably rising seas to claim the remaining few isolated Spartan bases. The last remnants of humanity live in a demented mashup of Waterworld and A Handmaid's Tale. Paradox needs to remake this game.
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Nov 10, 2017 19:18
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Nov 10, 2017 19:20
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Tias posted:What, exactly, does the nerve stapling procedure entail? I never read the lore like the brainwashing scene from 'a clockwork orange' but with dem thread posts
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Nov 10, 2017 19:26
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I don't remember the game ever going into specifics, actually. Leaving it to the imagination is probably a better approach anyway. similarly they never go into what exactly goes on inside of the punishment sphere, just that the outside is translucent so your loved ones can watch
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Nov 10, 2017 19:27
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Fallen Hamprince posted:like the brainwashing scene from 'a clockwork orange' but with dem thread posts No wonder it's considered an automatic atrocity.
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Nov 10, 2017 19:31
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it’s weird that the punishment sphere isn’t an atrocity if you think about it
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Nov 10, 2017 19:41
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maybe it has a gentle setting, kinda like a washing machine
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Nov 10, 2017 19:42
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