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Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Grand Prize Winner posted:

My high school's IT was run by student volunteers. Result: teachers' computers had porn/blacklisted websites blocked, while every computer lab was 100% open.

That lasted all four years I was there.

Did we go to the same high school? We also had access to teachers GradeQuick and would sell better grades to kids.

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GI_Clutch
Aug 22, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
Dinosaur Gum
I remember first porn I saw on the internet (if you don't count downloading pictures off of a BBS from the back of a PC magazine). I launched Netscape 1.x on Windows 3.1, went to Yahoo!, and searched for "naked ladies". I found a web site for a long distance provider that tried to entice you into switching to them by interspersing pictures of naked women between details of the services they provided.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Arivia posted:

I'm gonna take a guess that your modern smart TV doesn't have a pure analog path from a composite input, and definitely not fault it for asking for video input on the VGA input (why does it have one anyway in TYOOL 2017?)

Doesn't matter, it should just play it, and skip the useless signal detection BS.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Looks like EA has caught on about LGR's discontent regarding the Sims badness by cutting him off from free materials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziFsj4k5Wc0

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


oohhboy posted:

Looks like EA has caught on about LGR's discontent regarding the Sims badness by cutting him off from free materials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziFsj4k5Wc0
It only took them a few years. I'll only watch his Sims videos if I'm really bored because I just don't care, but I've seen enough to know that he doesn't think too much of their efforts a lot of the time.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I watch to see him get increasingly negative when he is normally at worse neutral about something. He isn’t holding back anymore and the subject is worth dumping on.

Plus it’s great that he is maintaining something he started as most would just let it fade away unfinished.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Game quality quick guide:

Is it published by EA? -> It's bad.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Hey now, HL2 was ok. They produced the boxes and cds and poo poo for the first release.

PC games in boxes are a tech relic now, ain't they?

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Collateral Damage posted:

Game quality quick guide:

Is it published by EA? -> It's bad.

Yes.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Hey now, HL2 was ok. They produced the boxes and cds and poo poo for the first release.

PC games in boxes are a tech relic now, ain't they?

Yup. Pretty much always just a code printed on a piece of paper inside a DVD box.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Skoll posted:

Yup. Pretty much always just a code printed on a piece of paper inside a DVD box.

Destiny 2 upped that by including a fake paper disc too.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Hey now, HL2 was ok. They produced the boxes and cds and poo poo for the first release.

PC games in boxes are a tech relic now, ain't they?
HL2 was originally published by Sierra/Vivendi but it was under very contentious circumstances since Vivendi loving HATED Steam and were suing over it and such.

Every boxed Valve game afterwards was published and distributed by EA, and EA UK did the PS3 port of The Orange Box.

future ghost
Dec 5, 2005

:byetankie:
Gun Saliva
I bought a retail boxed version of the terran and zerg campaigns in StarCraft since it was cheaper than the 'digital' version. In the box: a single card with a digital version code and download link.

Gone are the days of Homeworld, StarSiege, or SU-27 Flanker where the retail boxes come with ridiculously in depth printed backstory volumes or massive user guides. Or that retail boxes even exist.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
I loved flight simulators in the 90s, and used to pick which game to buy based on the weight of the box. I probably spent just as many hours with the manual for EF2000 as I did with the game.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

KozmoNaut posted:

Non-crippled phones have analog headphone outputs.


AV in aka composite video. Also VGA, which usually has an analog audio input.

Most TVs including non smart TVs haven't had analog inputs for years

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

evobatman posted:

I loved flight simulators in the 90s, and used to pick which game to buy based on the weight of the box. I probably spent just as many hours with the manual for EF2000 as I did with the game.

Falcon 4.0 was the champ for that.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Tornado, Apache, and Hind were just as heavy. Some European shop did those.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Last Chance posted:

Most TVs including non smart TVs haven't had analog inputs for years

Yes they do. It's usually just one composite or composite/component combo input, but it's still there. The very latest Samsung tv's don't, but that's a recent thing.

S-video is the only connector that every manufacturer seemed to simultaneously drop 7 or 8 years ago.

The_Franz has a new favorite as of 20:14 on Nov 10, 2017

Carrion Luggage
Nov 24, 2006

The_Franz posted:

Yes they do. It's usually just one composite or composite/component combo input, but it's still there. The very latest Samsung tv's don't, but that's a recent thing.

S-video is the only connector that every manufacturer seemed to simultaneously drop 7 or 8 years ago.

My Sony has 3 HDMI, 3 USB and a coax. Nothing else, which I thought was just the norm for the day.

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

TotalLossBrain posted:

Tornado, Apache, and Hind were just as heavy. Some European shop did those.
I bought Tornado. Digital Integration did it. I was overwhelmed but happy about the 300+ page manual. I also had F117 Stealth Fighter (I think that was Microprose) and while many thought it was boring, I loved the suspense and mood of flying night bombing missions.

I still load up Chuck Yeager's Air Combat in DOSBox once in a while. Although my CH Flightstick is long gone, I have just as much fun with a Logitech F310 gamepad.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I played the poo poo out of Strike Commander when I was a kid. Think Wing Commander with F-16’s, even made by the same people.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

JazzmasterCurious posted:

I bought Tornado. Digital Integration did it. I was overwhelmed but happy about the 300+ page manual. I also had F117 Stealth Fighter (I think that was Microprose) and while many thought it was boring, I loved the suspense and mood of flying night bombing missions.

I still load up Chuck Yeager's Air Combat in DOSBox once in a while. Although my CH Flightstick is long gone, I have just as much fun with a Logitech F310 gamepad.

I loved a lot of the Microprose sims that came out. My favorite was Gunship 2000, but none of them were ever that laborious or overly detailed.
And boy, there were a lot of them. B-17 Flying Fortress, Gunship, GS2000, F15 Strike Eagle (3 iterations), F14 Fleet Defender, and a bunch of other stuff I am forgetting.
I really REALLY looked forward to Strike Commander. It was so hyped for a couple of years, it was late for a couple years, and it was supposed to be SUPER OMG GRAPHICS. When it did come out, it was impressive but required an impressive machine to run, too. I guess that was true of all Origin games.

My favorite sims were Falcon and the Digital Integration sims I mentioned - namely Tornado and Apache. I didn't care about Hind all that much because I hated the Hind's lovely flight instruments.

I still have the boxes for Strike Commander, Pacific Commander, a couple Wing Commanders, and Tornado sitting here by my desk.


Remember the time LucasGames made a flightsim? Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe!

TotalLossBrain has a new favorite as of 01:11 on Nov 11, 2017

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003
I was big into Jane's Simulators back in the mid to late 90s. I was too poor to afford a proper HOTAS so it was all keyboard all the time. I remember the keyboard layout was so complicated and arcane that it came with a template you laid out over the whole thing.

Killswitch
Feb 25, 2009

TotalLossBrain posted:

Remember the time LucasGames made a flightsim? Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe!

loving A, that game was the best thing in the world. Days upon days flying campaigns, I don't think i ever managed to complete a full tour in the B17 before getting killed or captured.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Antioch posted:

I was big into Jane's Simulators back in the mid to late 90s. I was too poor to afford a proper HOTAS so it was all keyboard all the time. I remember the keyboard layout was so complicated and arcane that it came with a template you laid out over the whole thing.

In Janes USNF 97 if you gun down a parachuting pilot you'll actually hear them scream

Also if you use the Yak (iirc the only prop plane in the game) you can land it on a building

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

TotalLossBrain posted:

I really REALLY looked forward to Strike Commander. It was so hyped for a couple of years, it was late for a couple years, and it was supposed to be SUPER OMG GRAPHICS.

I recently read a contemporary review which wasn't great. And I guess what you said above could be said about Star Citizen too :v:

I wish I had time to replay some of those classic flight sims, or maybe the updated Falcon 4 versions.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Antioch posted:

I was big into Jane's Simulators back in the mid to late 90s. I was too poor to afford a proper HOTAS so it was all keyboard all the time. I remember the keyboard layout was so complicated and arcane that it came with a template you laid out over the whole thing.

Wow, gently caress that! Using the layoutsheet for interstate '76 was bad enough!

I really should try and get back into some of the flight games from back in the day. I picked up two old trustmasters the otehr day for $5.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


TotalLossBrain posted:

When it did come out, it was impressive but required an impressive machine to run, too.

That's something that I really don't miss about early PC gaming. Things were advancing so fast that you couldn't expect to play a new game at more than slideshow framrates on a two year old computer. I built a pretty decent one in like '99 or so and by 2003 new releases were basically out of my reach unless they were on old engines. Just this last year I plonked down $700 on parts for a new one (I put it in the old 90s beige box for shits n' giggles) and I can run new-release games at pretty much top settings without dropping below like 50 FPS.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


OK so thought I would try and get XPlane11 after finally getting the old 'Thrustmaster Topgun Fox 2 Pro Shock' (what a name!) working with Win10. As I am downloading from the installer I notice that .wav files are still in use. Is compression obsolete? I've seen repackers of games that manage to losslessly compress the heck out of large games in the past. I thought in this day and age of digital delivery that compressing the files to send to the customer would be benificial for all concerned (lower bandwith on server, and quicker download times for users).

That reminded me of something earlier in the thread about a programmer that has some stupidly absurd compression ratio code. I can't find it for the life of me now except bullshit youtube videos. Started looking for legit compression and maybe 20% is the norm?

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Humphreys posted:

OK so thought I would try and get XPlane11 after finally getting the old 'Thrustmaster Topgun Fox 2 Pro Shock' (what a name!) working with Win10. As I am downloading from the installer I notice that .wav files are still in use. Is compression obsolete? I've seen repackers of games that manage to losslessly compress the heck out of large games in the past. I thought in this day and age of digital delivery that compressing the files to send to the customer would be benificial for all concerned (lower bandwith on server, and quicker download times for users).
Uncompressed files load faster and with less processor impact on account of not needing to be decompressed. In a world where console games routinely ship on 50gb dual-layer Blu-Rays, developers can pick their battles.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

The Kins posted:

Uncompressed files load faster and with less processor impact on account of not needing to be decompressed. In a world where console games routinely ship on 50gb dual-layer Blu-Rays, developers can pick their battles.

Processor speed has increased faster than memory and storage bandwidth so that’s not always a given.

It’s not unlikely that a CPU can receive and decompress an MP3 faster than it can receive a WAV.

You’re probably right about lossless compression because the compression ratio isn’t great yet it does require significant decompression time.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I might add that I am in Australia where internet (NBN) is bullshit. I'd be more than happy for download times to be faster and trade off installation/unpacking time

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Buttcoin purse posted:

I recently read a contemporary review which wasn't great. And I guess what you said above could be said about Star Citizen too :v:

I wish I had time to replay some of those classic flight sims, or maybe the updated Falcon 4 versions.

If you look carefully you can find Humbug Scoolbus's real name in the credits for both the PC and Mac versions of Falcon 4. The Mac version was one of the last flight sim projects I worked on.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I was a Mac guy, so my fave flight sims back in the day we’re Chuck Yeager, F/A 18 (or maybe Hornet?), and a Red Baron game by (I think) Sierra. The hornet game allowed you drop a tactical nuke and the Red Baron game let you shoot dirigibles. Great fun.

Rags to Liches
Mar 11, 2008

future skeleton soldier


Humbug Scoolbus posted:

If you look carefully you can find Humbug Scoolbus's real name in the credits for both the PC and Mac versions of Falcon 4. The Mac version was one of the last flight sim projects I worked on.

I'd give anything for a new Falcon game.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Aubergine Mage posted:

I'd give anything for a new Falcon game.

DCS?

Rags to Liches
Mar 11, 2008

future skeleton soldier



Haven't paid much attention to it but if it has a totally dynamic campaign system I'm all in

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Aubergine Mage posted:

I'd give anything for a new Falcon game.

So would I :(

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Aubergine Mage posted:

I'd give anything for a new Falcon game.

DCS doesn't have a dynamic campaign and probably never will.

BMS Falcon is worth investigating though. It's Falcon 4 updated to about 2010ish (in terms of looks). Additional planes, new theatres like Israel and the Balkans and recently updated so that setting up a controller profile isn't the monster headache it used to be. It's just not as pretty as DCS is. Still remarkable considering what the base product is.

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oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Thanks for this little bit of random kit mom.........



VGA 640 x 480, 3x digital zoom, Skype compatible and USB 2.0 as a kicker!

All for the low, low price of $50 Australian. Still sealed and only a month shy of 10 years old.

Not even sure what I am going to with this thing other than the recycling centre. Giving it to a goodwill equivalent would be an anti-donation.

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