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UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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Should be noted that the X visuals in person are more impressive than 4k youtubes.

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comper
Jun 22, 2006
My mom says I'm cool.

UnfortunateSexFart posted:

Should be noted that the X visuals in person are more impressive than 4k youtubes.

I’d only want hard numbers anyway. It’s annoying trying to find real comparisons when there are people on reddit who change their TV picture setting to the faux-“HDR” mode and people are praising it. I always knew UHD/HDR was going to be a shitshow to explain to people when something finally started introducing it to the mainstream public haha here we go.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

Yeah I always feel YouTube videos are difficult to really use for comparison because it is like two steps removed from the real thing. Sounds like there is a significant difference though. I hear GameStop nearly sold out so it may be hard to find one.

comper
Jun 22, 2006
My mom says I'm cool.

Blind Rasputin posted:

Yeah I always feel YouTube videos are difficult to really use for comparison because it is like two steps removed from the real thing. Sounds like there is a significant difference though. I hear GameStop nearly sold out so it may be hard to find one.

I saw that too but my local GameStops and all three Best Buys within 10 miles show stock so I may end up just ordering for pickup tomorrow since I’m a terrible consumer that just wants another new toy but I am hoping to find some more comparisons before I pull the trigger.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Theres no reason to spend 500 when you arent sure wait until the inevitable e3 sale next year

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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Destiny 2 patch confirmed to be true 4k on X, "adaptive" 4k on Pro. Still worse than Destiny 1 and 30fps unfortunately.


https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46467

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy
I'd rather have 60FPS over 4k tbh. Love my Bone but come on.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Cant do it on a lowgrade laptop cpu made in 2011 no matter how much they overclock

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
There is a marked difference moving from AC Origins on the original Xbox One to the X. Incredibly sharp, way more vibrant and no frame rate drops that I was getting on the Xbone.

Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"

Real hurthling! posted:

Theres no reason to spend 500 when you arent sure wait until the inevitable e3 sale next year

Is that like the inevitable PS4 Pro sales that were supposed to happen when the X came out?

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
Put in Crimson Skies last night to play it with more pees and was amazed at how well it held up. loving Star Wars with propellers, basically. Good poo poo. Shame it's stuck in 4x3.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Zaa Boogie posted:

Is that like the inevitable PS4 Pro sales that were supposed to happen when the X came out?

No? Sony has never given a crap about the xb1's pricing afaik
There is just always a console discount at e3 every year

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Blind Rasputin posted:

So people that had a One S on a 4K tv and switched to the one X, how much of a difference are you noticing in games and Netflix, etc. I am currently playing BF1, Wolfenstein, and will probably get COD WW2 and battlefront 2 to play on it. How do the graphics change on these with the console upgrade?

Netflix you won't see a difference, as its streaming 4k content from the S already. Games there was a huge difference going from an S to an X in CoD: WWII...*cough* from what my friend says.

glad destiny 2 patch is coming so people can be bored in full UHD

Auron fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Nov 10, 2017

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
I wish some games like Destiny could go from 30fps to 60fps with an update, but competitive edge and all 🤷🏻‍♂️

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
Whys everyone so down on Destiny 2 in here? I didn't play it all the way to the max level but from what I did play it seemed much better put together than the first game.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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89 posted:

I wish some games like Destiny could go from 30fps to 60fps with an update, but competitive edge and all 🤷🏻‍♂️

I think it has less to do with that and more to do with the lovely mobile CPU not being able to handle a large openish world game at a locked 60.

Le Saboteur posted:

Whys everyone so down on Destiny 2 in here? I didn't play it all the way to the max level but from what I did play it seemed much better put together than the first game.

There's a lot of good thing about it; but there's nothing to do in it once you beat the story, run a couple strikes, and do the lovely raid. Its just a soulless game.

Auron fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Nov 10, 2017

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Le Saboteur posted:

Whys everyone so down on Destiny 2 in here? I didn't play it all the way to the max level but from what I did play it seemed much better put together than the first game.

Pretty much my assessment as well. Remarkable quality of life improvements, almost any action earns you loot in some form, still solid gunplay.

But I'm not the kind of person to grind the poo poo out of it. I like that the game is much more suited to my play style of "I have 70 minutes before the lady friend gets home, lemme run some public events and knock out a challenge."

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps

Le Saboteur posted:

Whys everyone so down on Destiny 2 in here? I didn't play it all the way to the max level but from what I did play it seemed much better put together than the first game.

Because all anybody in this thread can do is poo poo on anything. I end up going to the Xbox One reddit for anything useful.

I put in a good 40-50 hours into Destiny 2 and felt I got more than my money’s worth. Everything PVE wise seemed drastically improved. Enjoyed the story. Had me hooked for a little while. The content will get better with the DLCs just as Destiny 1 did. PVP isnt as great. But I thought it was Destiny 1 but without the bullshit. One of my favorite games in a while. Excellent game to have around for a few hours before work or before the lady gets home.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
I'm just tired of playing Destiny 1 to even care about buying Destiny 2 which is pretty much more of the same with more polish

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Bungie said it was their simulation getting bottlenecked by cpu.


People are down on destiny cause its a treadmill of tired gameplay concepts that seems designed to just trap psychologically susceptible players in the gameplay loop aka its an activision game

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

Le Saboteur posted:

Whys everyone so down on Destiny 2 in here? I didn't play it all the way to the max level but from what I did play it seemed much better put together than the first game.
Making a game that's better than Destiny 1 is literally impossible not to do

If you want to play a shootyman baby mode MMO for console bros, it's a pretty good game and very nice to look at.

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
Yeah its alright, I just fell off it because of all the other releases that have subsequently come out this Fall and I'm just prioritizing the ones that have been enhanced for Xbonx so far.

a messed up horse
Mar 11, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Le Saboteur posted:

Whys everyone so down on Destiny 2 in here? I didn't play it all the way to the max level but from what I did play it seemed much better put together than the first game.

it's because they threw out most of the improvements they made to destiny 1 and made it less fun to play, presumably for pvp balance reasons. then they made pvp worse

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


a messed up horse posted:

it's because they threw out most of the improvements they made to destiny 1 and made it less fun to play, presumably for pvp balance reasons. then they made pvp worse

Basically it doesn't have any of the stuff that made people play for 100+ hours in destiny 1.

And the people who play a game for like 20 or less hours and move on to another game surprise, they did that with destiny 2 anyway!

Its not a good game for the hardcore and has no reason for casuals to play it any longer after they blow through most of the content.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Destiny 2 balancing for PvP made PVE less fun, there isnt really any content after the story other than the Raid and the lust of watching numbers gently go up, PvP is E-Sports so its trash to actually play. I bought it, did my time, realized the raid didnt even have a lot of shooting and was mostly puzzles, and will never play it again.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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Syrinxx posted:

Making a game that's better than Destiny 1 is literally impossible not to do.

Destiny 2 is just Destiny 1 with less content or reason to play. It is impossible for it to be better. Maybe after all the DLCs it will be on par with 1.

And being 30fps must be due to their garbage engine because every other console fps can manage 60fps.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.
Serious question in this whole mess: Can you play D1 content solo at this point, and enjoy it?

Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOxN6uV_4k

Somebody made a comparison between the internal HD and an external SSD on an S and X.

The results are within a second of each other most of the time on the X.

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


Twerk from Home posted:

Serious question in this whole mess: Can you play D1 content solo at this point, and enjoy it?

god I hope so it's like my only game other than diablo

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

Zaa Boogie posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOxN6uV_4k

Somebody made a comparison between the internal HD and an external SSD on an S and X.

The results are within a second of each other most of the time on the X.
Dammit now I want an Xbone X even more but I still have no 4k displays

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

This is me:

http://windowsreport.com/xbox-one-x-black-screen/

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Syrinxx posted:

Dammit now I want an Xbone X even more but I still have no 4k displays

So? Your 1080 stuff still looks better.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




fishmech posted:

So? Your 1080 stuff still looks better.

At nearly 2p's on the dollar

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


Zaa Boogie posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrOxN6uV_4k

Somebody made a comparison between the internal HD and an external SSD on an S and X.

The results are within a second of each other most of the time on the X.

Oh so there's no point in getting like an external SSD for the Xbox one x or anything because it's already hitting the speed limit even with the 'slow' internal drive?

ultrachrist
Sep 27, 2008
Not about the Xbonx but can someone give me a general Xbox One answer?

I haven't tried the Play Anywhere feature until now. I have Cuphead and Shadow of War on my bone. On my PC, if I find Cuphead in the store, it has the "Install" button, but SoW only has "Buy". Only thing I can think of is Cuphead is a digital purchase, but SoW is a disc. I think the disc buy should still work right? If I load the Xbox app on my PC, it even shows I've played SoW but linking to the game page shows "Buy".

edit: looks like it's digital only. The top google answer is really misleading. That's DUMB!

ultrachrist fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Nov 11, 2017

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Yeah the Play Anywhere stuff is digital-only. If you own an Xbone game on disc, you can ONLY play it on an Xbone.

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


I'm sure if you asked some war grizzled Xbox one vet, he'd tell you if that Microsoft had their original vision, you would have been able to register that disc to play anywhere.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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I fuckin love the xbonx dudes, I didn't really expect to enjoy it this much. Xbox live is still better than PSN and Wolfenstein/Battlefront look incredible, with no fuckin technical issues.

And the controller is the best by a mile of course.

Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"

Ineffiable posted:

Oh so there's no point in getting like an external SSD for the Xbox one x or anything because it's already hitting the speed limit even with the 'slow' internal drive?

Pretty much. No idea if installing an SSD internally will change things but MS says they sourced these HDs so they could pair them with the system to get that speed boost (yeah, I have no idea how bulshit that is either :v: ) But there IS a boost so they did something right.

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Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


Someone pointed out the games tested were not Xbox one x enhanced. It could be that it's using the extra ram to speed up loading somehow, but it only works internally?

Still, that's impressive that its just as fast as a SSD. Usb3 and sata3 have pretty similar transfer speeds don't they? So there's no bottleneck there.

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