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Blindeye posted:I am now hard for the super baguette. That thing will be faster in reverse than the NC is going forward.
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Only needed like 650 more xp for my second daily container so I said gently caress it and took the Nikolai for a spin. Got a supercontainer with 25 wyvern flags not bad edit: also nice to see you ZombieLenin
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 05:43 |
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NTRabbit posted:Looks like it might be a tree ship and not a premium, because here's another baguette A tier 8 battleship that can go 34kts? Yes please
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 08:45 |
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It is massively undergunned and it's only defense seem to be the speed boost...
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 11:31 |
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Krogort posted:It is massively undergunned and it's only defense seem to be the speed boost... It's got the same number and calibre of main guns as Bismarck and only one less than Monarch, but has way better firing arcs, and the secondaries on that hull look like 5x3 155mm, even though it only had 3x3 historically. Don't see where undergunned is coming from. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Nov 7, 2017 |
# ? Nov 7, 2017 11:37 |
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It doesn't appear to be the late war refit where the aft of the ship was 100% AA guns.
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 12:54 |
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Well Bismark has peashooter for guns and make up for it with citadel proof armor, best secondaires, hydro and decent AA. Richelieu will have none of that.
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 12:56 |
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The calibre of the main guns on Bismarck isn't the limiting factor, it's the accuracy. Richelieu won't have a turtleback no, but it will be able to fire all 8 guns while nose in or tightly angled, never needing to expose the broadside, and it should have 40mm deck armour. e: Line is fleshing out Expecting Courbet at 4 and a fictional ship at 3; also there's a rumour that looks like troll bait which has the tier 10 called Voltaire and armed with 4x4 380mm ee: There's also a new tier 10 premium being worked on, presumably a clam war or ranked reward, a Des Moines clone called Salem NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Nov 7, 2017 |
# ? Nov 7, 2017 13:02 |
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NTRabbit posted:
Wasn't that in an event a while back as a "boss ship" (along with a Super Midway with godlike secondaries) played by supertesters and CCs? They should just keep the crazy stats for it because lol why not?
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 13:25 |
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No idea, but I don't keep up with those things. This is what it is right now though Hit points - 49700, plating - 25 mm, belt - 152 mm. Main battery - 3x3 203 mm. Firing range - 15.8 km. HE damage - 2800, AP damage - 5000. Reload time 5.5 s., 180 degree turn time - 30 s., maximum dispersion - 142 m. HE initial velocity - 823 m/s. AP initial velocity - 762 m/s. Sigma count - 2.05. Maximum speed - 33 kt. Turning circle radius - 770 m., rudder shift time - 8.6 s. Surface detectability - 13.4 km, air detectability - 9.9 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke - 8.2 km. Anti-torpedo defense damage reduction - 7%. Available consumables: Slot 1 - Damage Control Party Slot 2 - Defensive AA Fire Slot 3 - Surveillance Radar Slot 4 - Repair Party
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 13:30 |
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Ahahahhaahahha that speed, concealment, and turret layout are so bad and they put it at t7 amazing. I mean, sure... but it is essentially just a French Dreadnought ordered in 1913. Given that, it’s placement at tier 7 seems... excessive.
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# ? Nov 7, 2017 20:12 |
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With flags and speed boost the Richelieu can do 38.6 knots, it is said, because it's got the Charles Martel speed boost. Also, leaks from Chinese supertesters have the final two ships in the liine: IX - Alsace, no 3 design, super Richelieu with 3x4 380mm (15") guns X - France, paper super super Richelieu, armed with 3x4 431mm/50 (16.9") guns That's 2 quads forward, 1 quad aft ZombieLenin posted:I mean, sure... but it is essentially just a French Dreadnought ordered in 1913. Given that, it’s placement at tier 7 seems... excessive. They kind of had an issue, in that the first French Dreadnought Courbet was too good for tier 3 because it was 8 years later than most, and they thought they had a hole at tier 7, so they dragged everything up a tier and created a modified Danton which swapped out the pre-Dread large secondary and tertiary battery for more primary. Problem is they dragged a tier 6 up to tier 7 creating a weakness, and the French had nothing in the vicinity or time span of the "Big 7" even on the board. In typical WG fashion though, they could have avoided that weakness easily by either using the other historical Lyon layout - superfiring pairs - or using the 1929 fast battleship proposal instead, but no, they had to do it this way. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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NTRabbit posted:They kind of had an issue, in that the first French Dreadnought Courbet was too good for tier 3 because it was 8 years later than most, and they thought they had a hole at tier 7, so they dragged everything up a tier and created a modified Danton which swapped out the pre-Dread large secondary and tertiary battery for more primary. Problem is they dragged a tier 6 up to tier 7 creating a weakness, and the French had nothing in the vicinity or time span of the "Big 7" even on the board. In typical WG fashion though, they could have avoided that weakness easily by either using the other historical Lyon layout - superfiring pairs - or using the 1929 fast battleship proposal instead, but no, they had to do it this way. Other than Strasbourg which they bizarrely left out of the tree, there's the 'B' design here which is more or less an Ersatz Yorck (probably tier 7 if wargaming ever puts in more ships from the actual good German navy). But I don't know wargaming are doing with the French lines, they already omitted real heavy cruiser classes in order to put the best (non American) treaty cruiser a tier below the Hipper and now they leave Strasbourg out of the battleship tree for some reason. I suppose when they add French destroyers they will ignore the two full lines that can be researched using only wikipedia and add a bunch of random boats instead, and make Le Fantasque a premium tier 8 that goes 36 knots (I think the second half is a given).
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 06:46 |
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James Garfield posted:Other than Strasbourg which they bizarrely left out of the tree, there's the 'B' design here which is more or less an Ersatz Yorck (probably tier 7 if wargaming ever puts in more ships from the actual good German navy). In the process that led to the Dunkerque (26,500t type below), the French developed a 37,000t fast battleship in the late 1920s Which would have looked something like this As for Strasbourg, I can see why they left her out - all the tier 6 tree ships are essentially slow Super Dreadnoughts, QEs "fast battleship" label notwithstanding. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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Man I am super bummed out the Halloween game is ending. I really, really enjoyed it, especially the second part.
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NTRabbit posted:In the process that led to the Dunkerque (26,500t type below), the French developed a 37,000t fast battleship in the late 1920s Strausbourg is an up-armored version of Dunkerque, and frankly makes more sense at Tier 7 than does the 1913 Lyon design.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 15:48 |
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If I could just alternate playing the Belfast and Missouri forever, I totally would....but I like to collect ships And grind lines. Got done with the KGV. I ended up really liking it. I fired two salvos of AP the entire 38 battles I played. Monarch stock seems pretty okay. I like the AP alright and the concealment is stellar.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 15:57 |
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Victor Surge posted:If I could just alternate playing the Belfast and Missouri forever, I totally would....but I like to collect ships Monarch is okay.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 16:12 |
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ZombieLenin posted:Strausbourg is an up-armored version of Dunkerque, and frankly makes more sense at Tier 7 than does the 1913 Lyon design. It's not that uparmoured, it would still have the thinnest belt at tier by some margin, and they'd probably have to bastardise it into two triple 380mm turrets like Scharnhorst -> Gneisenau. A 16x 340mm gun Lyon with a +300mm belt makes more sense at tier 7 than 8x 330mm gun Strasbourg with a 280mm belt, even more if they hadn't given it the hosed layout. It's in the same hull ballpark as Colorado, and covers the loss in calibre with volume of fire. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Nov 8, 2017 |
# ? Nov 8, 2017 16:56 |
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Strasbourg was a sistership to Dunkerque and apart from being of slightly heavier standard displacement she was otherwise identical. There's no reason to add her to the game. And I know I always talk about Hood, is she the most maneuverable BB in the game or am I imagining things? EDIT: Yes she is, by a lot. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Strasbourg was a sistership to Dunkerque and apart from being of slightly heavier standard displacement she was otherwise identical. There's no reason to add her to the game. I think the Warspite still beats it out in maneuverability, though it is slower.
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NTRabbit posted:It's not that uparmoured, it would still have the thinnest belt at tier by some margin, and they'd probably have to bastardise it into two triple 380mm turrets like Scharnhorst -> Gneisenau. A 16x 340mm gun Lyon with a +300mm belt makes more sense at tier 7 than 8x 330mm gun Strasbourg with a 280mm belt, even more if they hadn't given it the hosed layout. It's in the same hull ballpark as Colorado, and covers the loss in calibre with volume of fire. Yeah... it’s a 1915 era Dreadnought. I just can’t get over that... as far as I can tell the only thing close to this in game above Tier V is the modernized Queen Elizabeth/Warspite at Tier VI. And it would really do a number on my brain if a circa 1915 ship were at the same tier as KGV. Edit I also feel you on Gneisenau; however, it was at least designed to carry that caliber main gun eventually. ZombieLenin fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Nov 8, 2017 |
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Blindeye posted:I think the Warspite still beats it out in maneuverability, though it is slower. Warspite has a smaller turning circle, but Hood is far zippier overall.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 20:07 |
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McSpanky posted:If you need room in DUNKN for someone who can bring it to CW then I'll fall on my sword, I'm burning out pretty hard after playing daily for hours the last month and I'd be around sparsely anyway due to moving soon. Selfless and appreciated. What’s your game name. We had a lot of people join wanting to be in clan wars but have yet to see any of them in discord during clan wars. I hope those folks will follow suit. Doesn’t mean you can’t get back in later.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 20:11 |
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My first game in the Koenigsberg. Will it always do this well?
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 20:50 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:My first game in the Koenigsberg. Will it always do this well? Yes, if you dont eat a bunch of citadels from a BB 20km away.
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# ? Nov 8, 2017 21:17 |
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I'm about to get the tier 6 german cruiser and I had a lot of fun with the koenigsberg. I hear a lot of people complain about the nurnberg so I'm kinda nervous about upgrading but I gotta get up the line somehow
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# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:22 |
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Hot Karl Marx posted:I'm about to get the tier 6 german cruiser and I had a lot of fun with the koenigsberg. I hear a lot of people complain about the nurnberg so I'm kinda nervous about upgrading but I gotta get up the line somehow I liked it. Yes its every bit as fragile and the higher tier enemies are deadlier, but you get a pretty huge ROF increase over the Konigsberg
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# ? Nov 9, 2017 00:41 |
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I really enjoyed the nurnberg, but t6 cruisers in general are in a pretty tough spot survivability wise
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# ? Nov 9, 2017 02:03 |
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jownzy posted:Selfless and appreciated. What’s your game name. JagdSpanky, vaya con dios McSpanky fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Nov 9, 2017 |
# ? Nov 9, 2017 02:06 |
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NTRabbit posted:It's not that uparmoured, it would still have the thinnest belt at tier by some margin, and they'd probably have to bastardise it into two triple 380mm turrets like Scharnhorst -> Gneisenau. A 16x 340mm gun Lyon with a +300mm belt makes more sense at tier 7 than 8x 330mm gun Strasbourg with a 280mm belt, even more if they hadn't given it the hosed layout. It's in the same hull ballpark as Colorado, and covers the loss in calibre with volume of fire. They could give it a high rate of fire. The 330 mm guns were apparently intended to fire 3 rounds per minute and they're considerably more powerful than Scharnhorst guns. It's not like Scharnhorst is too weak for tier 7.
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# ? Nov 9, 2017 03:47 |
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Just unlocked and purchased the Lion. Use my save me free XP to unlock all the modules except the second hull. Unfortunately, after the the purchase that was left was roughly a million credits. Not even enough to afford the slot 3 upgrade, let alone the guns, fire control, and engine. So what did I do? Played one match in it anyway. 175k damage loss. ZombieLenin fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Nov 9, 2017 |
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# ? Nov 9, 2017 18:53 |
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177 HE hits, 1 fire:
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# ? Nov 9, 2017 19:29 |
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Lol I was playing the other day and I got 4 loving fires in 3 salvos on a tier 4 British cruiser and killed him in like 2 minutes. He wasn't happy and I even said I got super lucky. Koeignberg is what I was using I think
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# ? Nov 9, 2017 19:36 |
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Flamu trip report on the Ashitaka (tier VII Amagi): it's "A poo poo Take." Terrible AP pen and dispersion combined with poor armor and stock Amagi hull maneuverability. He'd rather take a Colorado or Pensacola into a match.
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# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:25 |
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El Disco posted:Flamu trip report on the Ashitaka (tier VII Amagi): it's "A poo poo Take." Terrible AP pen and dispersion combined with poor armor and stock Amagi hull maneuverability. He'd rather take a Colorado or Pensacola into a match. If it's legitimately basically the old A hull, I'm not surprised. The shells attached to the A hulls of both Nagato and Amagi (and currently on Mutsu), were complete and utter poo poo. Mutsu can kind of get away with it since it's a tier lower, but putting something with those garbage shells at a tier where 16" guns with decent shells are actually common, and they sensibly changed them on Nagato a long time ago, would make it incredibly painful to play.
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# ? Nov 9, 2017 21:43 |
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New facebook post about the graf zep. This came up in my suggested stuff oddly. https://m.facebook.com/wowsgraf/posts/144951949472446 The gz test 2 seems quite promising.
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# ? Nov 10, 2017 00:18 |
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This is why I hate the average T9 and T10 players. Why yes that is my Nagato above almost all of them. Why yes I spent the whole match kiting Izumos, the Hipper, the Fletcher and both Atlantas. Why yes it was tears of the desert. Why yes our T9 BBs all had 75% health without burning a repair. It was fun that every shell that connected from them pretty much hit for full damage. HFX fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Nov 10, 2017 |
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It's a game where people can fail to the top, HFX. You've surely encountered this in tanks as well.
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