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No Wave posted:Depends on your priorities. It's probably not worth it if you still don't own characters, especially non-legendary characters, though it's hard to resist re-rolling epic chests. I didn't buy them. I've been saving chests for a few weeks. The only real money I spent on this game was the Lunar Festival Li Li skin way back when.
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Rerolling really should only be done if you get utterly hosed by an epic chest and enjoy the cosmetics.
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Nov 10, 2017 19:24
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SCtrumpHaters posted:Rerolling really should only be done if you get utterly hosed by an epic chest and enjoy the cosmetics. Is rerolling mathematically always the incorrect thing to do?
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Nov 10, 2017 19:39
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I typically reroll if I get a super bad grey or blue chest, and so far I have gotten a bunch of legendary and purple drops as a result. Granted, I only typically reroll once and not every chest is a winner, but I don't play much and in about 20 chests, I think I have nailed like 4 or 5 legendaries and a bunch of epics.
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Nov 10, 2017 19:41
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It's a good idea to re-roll if your chest is the worst possible outcome, like 4 grays from a normal chest. Worst case is you get another 4 grays, most of the time you'll get at least one blue.
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Nov 10, 2017 19:42
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Erdricks posted:Speaking of gold, what's the best use of gold in terms of rerolling loot boxes? Someone has probably created a guide but the general rule is roll the common chests until you get at least one rare. And same with the rare or epic chests until you get at least one epic.
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Nov 10, 2017 19:45
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But if I want shards to buy skins/announcers/etc, then it's just having to fall back on loot chest duplicates?
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Erdricks posted:But if I want shards to buy skins/announcers/etc, then it's just having to fall back on loot chest duplicates? Basically. At some point, it probably is good to just take some of those all grey chests on the chin and start snatching up those emotes and sprays so you can get shards down the line. Bayonnefrog posted:Someone has probably created a guide but the general rule is roll the common chests until you get at least one rare. And same with the rare or epic chests until you get at least one epic. Yeah this approach really does good. I never reroll a chest that: A: Has a higher item than will typically roll at its level (for obvious reasons, like a common with a legendary or an epic.) B: Has items of a shard value higher than I would be comfortable spending. So I take a common chest with 2 blues no matter how much I hate those blues, but I might reroll a common with 1 blue if I really don't like it and am feeling lucky.
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You can't get many of the exact things you want. I've opened ~450 boxes with probably 50 re-rolls and have gotten somewhere around 13k shards the whole time. When you're re-rolling you're mostly trading hero purchases for improved cosmetics, so be aware of what you're doing. No Wave fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Nov 10, 2017 |
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I was listening to The Core podcast and they addressed the Heroes 2.0 currency and the problems with it. I thought the raised some good points. Basically saying they don't spend as much on the game as before because everything could be purchased with real money. Now you have to get the gems and not everything is purchasable with gems. They're thinking maybe it's better to go down to two currencies or just one. I think probably they will. They kept gold around which is really a Heroes 1.0 currency and could easily be replaced with gems. Earn a small number of gems for every game instead of gold. Something like that. Keep shards the same. I think there is also something to be said for being able to buy everything in the game with real money. Now you have to go through a loot box system and hope you get enough shards eventually. Also because there are so many tints of one skin I think they should allow people to exchange skin tints for a certain period of time. So lets say you get a skin. You can exchange in the shop for a different color for a couple of hours. Like in Wow loot after a raid.
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Bayonnefrog posted:I think there is also something to be said for being able to buy everything in the game with real money. Now you have to go through a loot box system and hope you get enough shards eventually. I fully admit that I spend way less on the game than I used to specifically because I can't buy exactly what I want. I'd gladly slap down $5 for gems if I could get the Alarak announcer with them, or whatever. Bayonnefrog posted:Also because there are so many tints of one skin I think they should allow people to exchange skin tints for a certain period of time. So lets say you get a skin. You can exchange in the shop for a different color for a couple of hours. Like in Wow loot after a raid. This would be a great feature. I got my least favorite of the Gryemane halloween tints, and while I love the skin, I'd like one of the other tints more, and I'd really like being able to trade it 1:1.
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Kyrosiris posted:I fully admit that I spend way less on the game than I used to specifically because I can't buy exactly what I want. I'd gladly slap down $5 for gems if I could get the Alarak announcer with them, or whatever. Outside of buying the discount hero bundle and getting the celestial horse (10 bucks total), I've not spent another penny on this game and only have 9 heroes left to buy. That being said, if I could actually pay money for things I'd pay a few bucks for any of those Halloween Greymane skins.
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Cuatal posted:Is rerolling mathematically always the incorrect thing to do? It really depends on how you value heros and cosmetics. Need more heroes? Dont reroll ever. Otherwise theres no other use for gold. My balance is i only reroll epic boxes, sometimes rares
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Nov 10, 2017 20:42
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I did win 100 lootboxes during their summer event so i have a ton of shards
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Nov 10, 2017 20:45
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This has been a good year for skins, and I think Immortan Garrosh is my favorite of them all. It's just perfect. Other standouts: Jaina (ofc, tho I think I still like arcanist better) Death knight Sonya (w/ helmet - and it's epic!) L800 etc (epic!) Fallen Junkrat
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Nov 10, 2017 21:01
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Yeah, I don't even play much and I still make enough gold to buy one out of every couple new heroes while re-rolling things with abandon. I wouldn't stress it too much.
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Nov 10, 2017 21:08
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I remember the days of value when there were 3 sales every 4 days. One hero a corresponding skin and then another skin for a different hero
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Welp, I guess I am just going to be waiting for the package sales to hope that some of the cosmetic things I want go on sale. Save that gold for heroes. Thanks thread.
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Blizz seems to have timed it that every time I buy a 10K gold character another one gets released, very frustrating for a completionist
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Insight Kharazim seems really good what with the CDR and mana sustain leading to being able to eventually have Deadly Reach active non-stop and pumping out regular Breath of Heaven, am I grossly overlooking something when it comes to the other two starting talents that makes them much more attractive?
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Kai Tave posted:Insight Kharazim seems really good what with the CDR and mana sustain leading to being able to eventually have Deadly Reach active non-stop and pumping out regular Breath of Heaven, am I grossly overlooking something when it comes to the other two starting talents that makes them much more attractive? Some guy from team liquid argues that it’s not as good as people think https://t.co/WJ7y7aoR9w?amp=1
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Fried Watermelon posted:Blizz seems to have timed it that every time I buy a 10K gold character another one gets released, very frustrating for a completionist Like what else is the point of gold then? Wish I had stuff to spend it on. 
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lost an AI game for the first time in like 2 months because my team couldn't deal with a sylvanas + azmodan just pushing down every single fort is abathur even that good at pushing lanes? i usually pick the healing talents because A) lol its AI and B) it usually doesn't give us a support i know he's good at getting xp from multiple lanes but i don't know how to deal with hyper pushers like that (i'm also not very good at the multiple lanes thing either) i also usually go monstrosity cause it's a fun talent (see A above) but this game i went evolution and couldn't really do much with it. man i really hate azmodan.
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AI Azmodan seems to have finally figured out that it can just use it's laser to straight up delete heroes, then hearth so it can do it again.
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Someone respect banned Junkrat because of how much I owned with him the game before.
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tcjimbo posted:Someone respect banned Junkrat because of how much I owned with him the game before. And then everyone stood up and clapped. And that Junkrat was Albert Einstein.
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Kurieg posted:AI Azmodan seems to have finally figured out that it can just use it's laser to straight up delete heroes, then hearth so it can do it again. Also AI Sylvanas will pull off maximum range Haunted Waves all the time. You need to chain-CC her at half health or she'll go "cya nerds" and zip away. It actually inspired me to go into training and work on my E timing.
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Kerrrrrrr posted:lost an AI game for the first time in like 2 months because my team couldn't deal with a sylvanas + azmodan just pushing down every single fort If two AI were off doing their own thing, what was stopping your 5 man from just pushing down straight to core?
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I had forgot how messed up quick match was. Got Ana so I decided to try her out in quick match and it decided Zarya, Lucio, Valla, Zuljin and Varian VS Ana, Raynor, Tracer, Chromie and Abathur was a good matchup. Ana seems super bad tho, or maybe I'm just bad? Like the whole skillshot to heal thing is infuriating in this game when your teammates are juking around. Especially if you have like Tracer or Genji or someone who is jumping around like an idiot the whole time. Also am I correct in reading that the nano boost only boosts spell damage and cooldown so it's almost worthless to use on autoattack heroes? Seems like a weird design choice that it wouldn't also boost AA attack speed or something. Ailumao fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Nov 11, 2017 |
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Any tips on tank drafting, like against which comps do you want which tank?
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Im_Special posted:Like what else is the point of gold then? Wish I had stuff to spend it on. reroll those chests man
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Kai Tave posted:Insight Kharazim seems really good what with the CDR and mana sustain leading to being able to eventually have Deadly Reach active non-stop and pumping out regular Breath of Heaven, am I grossly overlooking something when it comes to the other two starting talents that makes them much more attractive? Iron Fists gives you a DPS bump. Transcendence gives you a healing bump. Insight gives you an everything bump.
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Power Bottom posted:Iron Fists gives you a DPS bump. Insight is a lot less good before quest completion which is where you really need the power curve for Kharazim to be, unfortunately.
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Magna Kaser posted:Ana seems super bad tho, or maybe I'm just bad? Like the whole skillshot to heal thing is infuriating in this game when your teammates are juking around. Especially if you have like Tracer or Genji or someone who is jumping around like an idiot the whole time. Ana is ok/good in certain comps, I wouldn't say she's a general default solo healer, almost always want an off-support to help. Landing skillshots and positioning are everything obviously. The cooldowns are long enough on grenade and sleep dart that wasting them can be really bad. Depending on the enemy comp, sleep dart can be used liberally as an interrupt/mini-stun if you feel safe in general but the grenade timing and aim is how she can turn a team fight. I wouldn't draft her with any team that has waveclear issues because hers is total dogshit or any team with the spastic high-mobility heroes, also bad if the team can't make good use of Nano. It's great for mages like Li-Ming, it doesn't boost autoattack because that stomps on Morales' Stim. Star posted:Any tips on tank drafting, like against which comps do you want which tank? Mediocre opinions incoming. At least the ones I'm comfortable with, I would say Anub'arak, ETC, Muradin are ok first pick. Anub'arak is good vs spell damage and for locking down high threat targets with Cocoon. So enemy Stitches, Sonya, Rehgar etc. Arthas is good vs melee autoattackers with few/no escapes, Alarak, Illidan, Cassia, Ragnaros, can also be good for locking down low-mobility mages like Jaina, Gul'dan. But really when you want to be able to give your mid- and backline a zone where the enemy won't want to enter with your E. ETC is just good all around right now, if you won't get good Mosh or Stage Dive value though you're probably better with someone else, ie I would pick if they have a good number of melee warriors and assassins and your team has the ability to follow up on a good Mosh, or it's a big map conducive to making good Stage Dives. Johanna is good into almost any autoattacker, ranged or melee. Illidan, Greymane, Zul'jin, Cassia. Consider if the enemy team will be bunched enough to get good value from either of her heroics. Muradin is also good all around, I don't know, I guess I wouldn't draft him vs like Tracer/Valla + Tassadar, Lunara, Kerrigan, Genji maybe? He's good for standing around being a bastard interrupter but if you can't reach who you're trying to peel off he can't do a whole lot. He could still work in those situations but ETC might be better. Stitches you want to consider if you can be dislocated and separated from your team. Enemy Garrosh, Diablo, Brightwing, Stukov, Kerrigan, etc can move you out of position and make bad things happen. You want to consider who you can do bad things to with hook, even if not to initiate, but just as a way to keep them in the fight when they want to leave and after they blow their escape cooldown, Greymane, Valla, Li-Ming, etc. If they have a lot of melee consider if Bile would be good, or if your team has great lockdown + delete potential if Gorge would be good. I don't play the other Warriors enough to have even bad opinions. Garrosh gets banned so much I can't say a lot about drafting him but probably similar to Stitches and who you can lockdown with Warlord's Challenge. Tyrael is good but damned if I know the first thing about using him properly.
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Elysium posted:If two AI were off doing their own thing, what was stopping your 5 man from just pushing down straight to core? that's a pretty good fuckin question  i went back and watched the replay and it was just a really sad display of people not knowing how to rotate or kill minions (including me tbh) me (abathur) and junkrat were basically the only waveclear we had but neither of us were really doing well enough at it to counter two hyperpushers. i was doing carapace healing build and junkrat was mining the waves instead of just grenading them down. the last 6-7 minutes of the game was just my team desperately trying to hold on to our 16% hp core, but they kept wanting to try and go for the blackheart coins and as soon as they left the base it fell.
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sorry for double post but this is really important best regular chest ive ever gotten now do i get the junkrat or alarak announcer pack???
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Alarak. How is that even a question?
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Got Lunara from a box. Fell in love. Holy crap she seems like a late game beast. Is it just my relatively uneducated perspective? I never see other people playing her.
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You must not hang around the ow threads E: lunara's poison scales up harder than a lot of other things in the game I think
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Kerrrrrrr posted:sorry for double post but this is really important but it wasnt a regular chest. it was a Hallows End Chest! 
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