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Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

I think a good line of attack for superPAC ads in Alabama would be:

- Play clips from the Hannity interview. The worst ones. Just Hannity asking the question and the answer ("not generally, no" and "I don't dispute that"). No additional narration or commentary. Then at the end, "Roy Moore. Wrong for Alabama. Wrong for America." ("Wrong for America's underage daughters")

-Attack Moore's judicial actions that supported sex offenders and pederasts, with the newspaper clippings and blurry shots of a courtroom in the background. You don't even have to go at the current allegations, just stuff that's in the public record.

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Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I heat up water to roughly 200 F, and then I grind a ratio of roughly 18:1 beans to water with my burr grinder (I measure my beans and water with a scale accurate to 1 mg). Then I “brew” my coffee for 2.5-4.5 minutes depending on if I’m using a standard pour over or a chemex, using a Japanese made (I think) long neck kettle that lets me gently pour water with minimal agitation.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Zwabu posted:

I think a good line of attack for superPAC ads in Alabama would be:

- Play clips from the Hannity interview. The worst ones. Just Hannity asking the question and the answer ("not generally, no" and "I don't dispute that"). No additional narration or commentary. Then at the end, "Roy Moore. Wrong for Alabama. Wrong for America." ("Wrong for America's underage daughters")

-Attack Moore's judicial actions that supported sex offenders and pederasts, with the newspaper clippings and blurry shots of a courtroom in the background. You don't even have to go at the current allegations, just stuff that's in the public record.

Jones' ads are really good if you've seen any of them. His main slogan is "I won't embarrass you". Seems good for reaching the people are that reachable.

bollig
Apr 7, 2006

Never Forget.

https://twitter.com/samswey/status/929745474348814337

same thing but I think it bears repeating

Ballz
Dec 16, 2003

it's mario time

Taerkar posted:

Tell me that isn't the "He's just like me" percentage.

Honestly, it's probably people who think this is purely a political attack meant to bring an "innocent, Godly" man down. You'll always get some of that blowback.

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

Boris Galerkin posted:

I heat up water to roughly 200 F, and then I grind a ratio of roughly 18:1 beans to water with my burr grinder (I measure my beans and water with a scale accurate to 1 mg). Then I “brew” my coffee for 2.5-4.5 minutes depending on if I’m using a standard pour over or a chemex, using a Japanese made (I think) long neck kettle that lets me gently pour water with minimal agitation.

I'm far too woke to drink coffee. :smug:

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i like how the election broke people's brains about polling. the polls were right about hillary's margin. if someone told you before election day she'd win the popular vote by several million you'd assume she won the presidency right?

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
The reason that Moore is so cagey about his statements is the he knows there are a shitload more victims out there waiting to disprove any specific denials, right?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Quorum posted:

To expand on this, in 2018 there are only two possible pickups for Democrats that aren't a huge stretch requiring a Dem wave even larger than in Virginia or a Roy Moore-style fuckup, or both: Arizona and Nevada, one an open seat with Flake's retirement and one held by Heller, the most vulnerable Republican in the Senate. These are both well within the realm of possibility. All other defending Republicans are in safe seats, and the next most vulnerable senator is Ted Cruz, so three pickups are almost out of the realm of possibility. So if Moore had won, as we'd previously expected, that would leave the Senate at 52-48, meaning the absolute best the Dems could manage is a 50-50 tie broken by Pence. But if Moore loses, then there's an outside chance the Dems can make it to 51-49, shattering the administration's power to appoint or legislate beyond repair. Now, that's still a very tough fight, because it requires defending seats in states as red as West Virginia, Montana, and Missouri. But those are winnable with the power of incumbency and a Virginia-scale blue wave, maybe. So don't count on it at all, but it might theoretically be doable.

If you get to 50/50 you also open the possibility of a Republican Senator switching to vote with the Democrats. Unlikely, but it happened to Republicans partly because Bush insulted Jeffords. And if there was ever a President to insult a Senator...

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
All of these people deserve to have "I voted for a pedophile" carved into their houses.

Spiffster
Oct 7, 2009

I'm good... I Haven't slept for a solid 83 hours, but yeah... I'm good...


Lipstick Apathy
Dipped into the boycott tag on twitter and it’s filled with people ripping into the right for being so drat stupid.

And I’m pretty sure we touched base on this before but GOP are the absolute WORST at boycotts vs the left. I know people who adamantly refuse to go into Walmart’s on the left (myself included) for over a decade as these shitheels can’t even properly turn off their TVs for a few hours to stop watching football :cmon:

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Wark Say posted:

I watched that Hannity interview earlier today. How the gently caress can somebody be so bad at defending themselves? Like, how? Now I know thanks to this thread and reads elsewhere that Moore is crazier even by republican slimeball standards, but Jesus. :cripes:

"but Jesus" is exactly how he's so bad at it. You know that Family Guy bit where Lois just says 9-11 over and over again to every question and gets a standing ovation? Replace 9-11 with "Libs hate Jesus" and that's Moore's entire political career.

He's a one trick pony and has no clue what to do now.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Quorum posted:

But if Moore loses, then there's an outside chance the Dems can make it to 51-49, shattering the administration's power to appoint or legislate beyond repair.

What's Arizona's special election laws if/when McCain dies/steps down? I don't expect him to live past 2018/2019 with that brain tumor.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Wark Say posted:

All of these people deserve to have "I voted for a pedophile" carved into their houses.

You mean faces.

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/929755672131940352?s=17

Party Plane Jones posted:

What's Arizona's special election laws if/when McCain dies/steps down? I don't expect him to live past 2018/2019 with that brain tumor.

Basically he would be replaced by gov and special election in Nov.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Groovelord Neato posted:

i like how the election broke people's brains about polling. the polls were right about hillary's margin. if someone told you before election day she'd win the popular vote by several million you'd assume she won the presidency right?

To be fair, statistics is just not an intuitive subject.

What do you mean 95% confidence? What the hell is a p value?

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Spiffster posted:

Dipped into the boycott tag on twitter and it’s filled with people ripping into the right for being so drat stupid.

And I’m pretty sure we touched base on this before but GOP are the absolute WORST at boycotts vs the left. I know people who adamantly refuse to go into Walmart’s on the left (myself included) for over a decade as these shitheels can’t even properly turn off their TVs for a few hours to stop watching football :cmon:

I'd love to see a breakdown of conservative 'boycotts' and their actual effect, I wouldn't be surprised if most of them actually helped the companies they targeted.

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

I mean of course they have no effect it's just a handful of nuts trying to posture.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Boris Galerkin posted:

I heat up water to roughly 200 F, and then I grind a ratio of roughly 18:1 beans to water with my burr grinder (I measure my beans and water with a scale accurate to 1 mg). Then I “brew” my coffee for 2.5-4.5 minutes depending on if I’m using a standard pour over or a chemex, using a Japanese made (I think) long neck kettle that lets me gently pour water with minimal agitation.

Is this an homage to American Psycho because otherwise idgi

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


empty whippet box posted:

I'd love to see a breakdown of conservative 'boycotts' and their actual effect, I wouldn't be surprised if most of them actually helped the companies they targeted.

All I can think of is all the times they tried to protest Starbucks by buying Starbucks.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Spiffster posted:

Dipped into the boycott tag on twitter and it’s filled with people ripping into the right for being so drat stupid.

And I’m pretty sure we touched base on this before but GOP are the absolute WORST at boycotts vs the left. I know people who adamantly refuse to go into Walmart’s on the left (myself included) for over a decade as these shitheels can’t even properly turn off their TVs for a few hours to stop watching football :cmon:

You say this, but go to a Chick-Fil-A and witness the shameful commies hunkered in a distant booth.

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

Shifty Pony posted:

"but Jesus" is exactly how he's so bad at it. You know that Family Guy bit where Lois just says 9-11 over and over again to every question and gets a standing ovation? Replace 9-11 with "Libs hate Jesus" and that's Moore's entire political career.

He's a one trick pony and has no clue what to do now.

Charles Pierce is probably right about Moore's only path forward here. Cop to 'sexual immorality' (and for goodness' sake, don't mention age!), give testimony for his redemption, and lay into the godless liberal elites for trying to tear his family apart by bringing up the past that God has forgiven him for. Tie it to his battles to protect the vulnerable and families as a judge, and refuse to discuss it ever again.

It's not like David Vitter stopped running on family values after he got busted paying escorts to diaper and gently caress him.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

WeAreTheRomans posted:

Is this an homage to American Psycho because otherwise idgi

I thought we were telling each other how we brewed coffee every morning.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Arist posted:

All I can think of is all the times they tried to protest Starbucks by buying Starbucks.

Explain.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


I think it's worth mentioning I think that poll is landline only.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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farraday posted:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/929755672131940352?s=17


Basically he would be replaced by gov and special election in Nov.

We really want the 2018 Electorate voting for that seat.

Phoix
Jul 20, 2006




https://twitter.com/TeddyDavisCNN/status/929748980329742336

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Al Borland Corp. posted:

I think it's worth mentioning I think that poll is landline only.

That's a bad thing for Republicans.

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

empty whippet box posted:

I'd love to see a breakdown of conservative 'boycotts' and their actual effect, I wouldn't be surprised if most of them actually helped the companies they targeted.

The easy way to tell if a company is actually hurt by the rightwing boycott is to watch their reaction to it. Every big company will have people trying to track sentiment and they'll make decisions based on whether or not the people throwing a fit are their target customers. If they are, they'll weigh actions that'll mollify those people, if they're not then no action will be taken.

Aramis
Sep 22, 2009



Boris Galerkin posted:

I heat up water to roughly 200 F, and then I grind a ratio of roughly 18:1 beans to water with my burr grinder (I measure my beans and water with a scale accurate to 1 mg). Then I “brew” my coffee for 2.5-4.5 minutes depending on if I’m using a standard pour over or a chemex, using a Japanese made (I think) long neck kettle that lets me gently pour water with minimal agitation.

No Rao spin? Pfff, amateur.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Covok posted:

Explain.

They went in and said their name was MAGA to make Starbucks with MAGA on the cups

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

Party Plane Jones posted:

What's Arizona's special election laws if/when McCain dies/steps down? I don't expect him to live past 2018/2019 with that brain tumor.

The Governor picks a replacement from the state GOP to serve until the next statewide elections. At that point, there are primaries for the new Senate seat. If that statewide election is before 2022, then the winner only gets seated for the remainder of McCain's original term. In 2022, there is another Senate election with primaries and the winner of that gets seated for the normal 6 year term as usual.

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


mcmagic posted:

Jones' ads are really good if you've seen any of them. His main slogan is "I won't embarrass you". Seems good for reaching the people are that reachable.

Oh good they are pushing that tactic.

I was going to suggest that a much more effective ad than "Moore fucks kids" would be to play a few clips from cartoons, movies, and shows where the joke is a dumb southern hick says something about kid dating/marrying followed by one of Moore's statements ending with the narrator saying "everyone has been laughing at us for years, let's not prove them right."

dbukalski
Nov 9, 2017

YOSPOS

mcmagic posted:

I think it's pretty clear that there is NOTHING a republican candidate could do in Alabama for there to be a democratic blowout.

your probably right. but time will tell. give it a month of republicans hearing how moore is a pedophile and it could be a blowout

dbukalski
Nov 9, 2017

YOSPOS

Relentlessboredomm posted:

Question for you all.

Why don't we buy ads on Facebook to effect the Alabama election? Phone banking and donations are useful, but Facebook has a reach that can't be matched and the ability to influence important groups with hyper targeted messaging. If the election is close, which it appears it will be and Facebook ads have been proven effective in swinging votes, which they have then why not use it?


Obviously there are some interesting ethical questions here, but the mechanics of it are surprisingly simple.

what ethical questions? we arent russia. we are americans we have every right to sway election with words

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Paracaidas posted:

Charles Pierce is probably right about Moore's only path forward here. Cop to 'sexual immorality' (and for goodness' sake, don't mention age!), give testimony for his redemption, and lay into the godless liberal elites for trying to tear his family apart by bringing up the past that God has forgiven him for. Tie it to his battles to protect the vulnerable and families as a judge, and refuse to discuss it ever again.

It's not like David Vitter stopped running on family values after he got busted paying escorts to diaper and gently caress him.

He can't do this because he's on the record repeatedly being the lone dissent supporting rapists and pedophiles in cases.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

empty whippet box posted:

I'd love to see a breakdown of conservative 'boycotts' and their actual effect, I wouldn't be surprised if most of them actually helped the companies they targeted.

Conservative 'boycotts' are all about the appearance. It's an actual case of virtue signalling.

Morroque
Mar 6, 2013

Arist posted:

All I can think of is all the times they tried to protest Starbucks by buying Starbucks.

I can sort of understand what they might've been going for when they did that. It wasn't so much a "protest" as an enforcement of power dynamics. They believe they have the necessary money and social clout to control any and all situations in their favour. When they go to a Starbucks and order something "in protest", they are signifying their elevated social position in relation to the often minimum-wage workers who are forced to serve them. It is not so much meant to draw attention to themselves, but rather to cause unavoidable embarrassment for the others. Starbucks the company might've benefited, but the persons involved did not.

It wouldn't really be that much different from how, after all this time, they still remain with enough clout to keep majority-minority high schools named after Confederate figures and slaveholders. To them, that would be the entire point of it all.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Shifty Pony posted:

"but Jesus" is exactly how he's so bad at it. You know that Family Guy bit where Lois just says 9-11 over and over again to every question and gets a standing ovation? Replace 9-11 with "Libs hate Jesus" and that's Moore's entire political career.

He's a one trick pony and has no clue what to do now.
Aw, poor widdle pedophile, he probably never had to deal with this amount of scrutiny.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

You mean faces.
Like a less fancy mark of shame than what the Basterds did :black101:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-CdSuFZj1s

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RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Morroque posted:

I can sort of understand what they might've been going for when they did that. It wasn't so much a "protest" as an enforcement of power dynamics. They believe they have the necessary money and social clout to control any and all situations in their favour. When they go to a Starbucks and order something "in protest", they are signifying their elevated social position in relation to the often minimum-wage workers who are forced to serve them. It is not so much meant to draw attention to themselves, but rather to cause unavoidable embarrassment for the others. Starbucks the company might've benefited, but the persons involved did not.

It wouldn't really be that much different from how, after all this time, they still remain with enough clout to keep majority-minority high schools named after Confederate figures and slaveholders. To them, that would be the entire point of it all.

This is the difference between us and them. It reminds me of the concept of Face, but spite driven.

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