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GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
I like to go ranged heavy against goblins, still. entangle dont mean poo poo when your arrows are doing most of the work. Focus fire down the Overlore and Shaman and then either deal with the remaining gobbos the same way or, if your dudes are badly hurt fall back and return with your brawlers

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Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound
Did the dlc mess up the map seeds?

jerman999
Apr 26, 2006

This is a lex imperfecta
Apparently map layouts are the same, but companion stats are now different.

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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Makes sense, assumably it added a random element that pulls from the RNG (probably "should I place any lindwurms?") before it draws stats for companions, shifting everything after that draw so their index in the seed is different from before it was implemented

Wizard Styles
Aug 6, 2014

level 15 disillusionist

GlyphGryph posted:

I like to go ranged heavy against goblins, still. entangle dont mean poo poo when your arrows are doing most of the work. Focus fire down the Overlore and Shaman and then either deal with the remaining gobbos the same way or, if your dudes are badly hurt fall back and return with your brawlers
Yeah, having good archers against Goblins has always seemed important to me. At least once Shamans start appearing, and especially once the game makes you go up against multiple Shamans at once. At that point your melee bros are building up a lot of Fatigue just breaking free from vines/nets, so rushing them doesn't work so well anymore. And you definitely want to thin out the Skirmishers with daggers before the lines finally meet, even moreso when there's a Shaman that can put the "gently caress you, -50% to everything." debuff on a bro that then gets punctured to poo poo.
Shamans are kinda bullshit, and might have helped me kick my addiction to this game because having two of them appear in every moderately sized Goblin lair in the late game got old pretty fast.

Goblins without Shamans can mostly be dealt with by wearing heavy armor. Still need to get rid of the ones that can puncture (which also means not engaging Ambushers in melee unless it's very unlikely that they'll survive the turn), but the regular Goblins can easily be outmuscled.

Of course, before you actually get heavy armor, Goblin fights are simply gonna be dangerous and often not worth the risk. They're highly accurate and their weapons deal good damage, it's only their armor penetration that mostly sucks.

e: I think fighting Orc Warriors and Goblins is a trap in the midgame/before day ~50 in general. They're a huge threat and they don't drop the heavy armor you want to start collecting, which you can get from Brigand Leaders, Legionaries, Honor Guards and Fallen Heroes. And the good loot you do get from them is dropped by Orc Young and Berserkers as well, outside of poison.

Wizard Styles fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Oct 24, 2017

Donkringel
Apr 22, 2008

vyelkin posted:

The only real "trick" I know of against goblins is that you can abuse their absurdly high initiative to your advantage in the first round. They're so fast that every goblin will go first and they will all wait, hoping you will come into range so they can shoot you. If you then tell every one of your bros to wait, the goblins will wait again (rather than advance) and end all of their turns. You can then charge your entire squad forward four tiles. That puts you in missile range of the goblins and gives them a free round of attacks, but then once you get round to your guys' initiative on round 2 you'll be within range to charge into melee. If you don't do the waiting trick, they get two free missile rounds instead.

Against a shaman this is less effective because half your team will be entangled and won't be able to close to melee range on turn 2, but that's what you get for fighting a shaman.

Other than that, the only real tricks are to take bros with high missile defence and high melee offence, use weapons with bonuses to hit if you have to (swords are good I think, it's been a while, because goblins have thin armour so the sword's weakness against armour isn't a big deal), if you have greatsword bros with high missile defence bring them along because they can cleave right through to hit back-row missile attackers, etc., but those are all tactical things you're hopefully doing anyway along with attacking at night, they aren't really tricks per se.

Thank you for this. It worked out.

I saw this tip earlier but didnt quite understand it. My first attempt i just sat there while the overseer whipped the poo poo out of his men.

My brothers did not sign up for gobbo bdsm.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

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Hey BB goons,

I am (poorly) attempting to stream Battle Brothers ATM if anyone would like to come watch.

https://go.twitch.tv/griddead

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Am I the only person sperging out in a bad way over the hilly/mountain maps? The way bros move and what is costs are not intuitive, and I end up wasting the abilities I plan to use :qq:

Also, have anyone fought Lindwurms and are they awesome? :iamafag:

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

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jerman999 posted:

Apparently map layouts are the same, but companion stats are now different.

How so? I have not noticed changes

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

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Dub post but: Am doing my BB stream again right now for a little while. Will also run it again tomorrow for longer at the same time. So that's RIGHT NOW and in 24 hours.

Edit: Helps if I post a link https://go.twitch.tv/griddead

Edit: 2 we're back again!

Gridlocked fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Nov 4, 2017

Tias
May 25, 2008

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What do you do against groups of only goblin ambushers?? The only solution that works well is letting a large group of dogges go, but they'll sometimes kill enough of them to escape or at least make the play not worthwhile.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

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Once again its a short stream time.

https://go.twitch.tv/griddead

Wizard Styles
Aug 6, 2014

level 15 disillusionist

Gridlocked posted:

Once again its a short stream time.

https://go.twitch.tv/griddead
I'd like to say that I envy your luck with melon fuckers.
Your other luck you can keep, but I'd like some of that melon fucker RNG you got going.

Donkringel
Apr 22, 2008
Well I just had the most fun battle.

Undead crisis, I'm tasked to defend a town against siege. First battle with the undead goes swimmingly, not a single militia member lost, so they increase their numbers. Second undead attack and there is a nearby company from another town. I waited until they were in range and engaged the undead.

My mercs, the militia and the company. Versus Ancient Legionaries.

41 versus 11.

Update: 4 sieges later and the last siege the town company initiates combat first. I join the battle to assist and the Militia isn't with me, it's about 12 hexes ahead of me towards the enemy. Militia doesn't wait, charges headlong into combat. The town company waits. I yell at my men to get moving as quick as possible to save the militia.

My men arrive just as we see the last militia member cut down and the lord's men join battle.

Oh wait! There are still some militia lef-... Nope, they're coming back as weidergangers.

Still, killed em off, made a cool 6k.

Donkringel fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Nov 5, 2017

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Donkringel posted:

Well I just had the most fun battle.

Undead crisis, I'm tasked to defend a town against siege. First battle with the undead goes swimming, not a single militia member lost, so they increase their numbers. Second undead attack and there is a nearby company from <i>another</i> town. I waited until they were in range and engaged the undead.

My mercs, the militia and the company. Versus Ancient Legionaries.

41 versus 11.

So what did you do once it was your 12 guys against 11 ancient legionaries and 29 zombies?

Donkringel
Apr 22, 2008

vyelkin posted:

So what did you do once it was your 12 guys against 11 ancient legionaries and 29 zombies?

Haha just updated my comment and then I saw your post. Yea, that part of the militia getting their butts kicked was... worrisome


Question, there was one town siege event where the town put the militia directly under my control (and I could direct their armanents to a limited degree). How is that siege event triggered?

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound
Woohoo, the developers posted a positive comment on my guide =)

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Woohoo, the developers posted a positive comment on my guide =)

Where yo guide at? Steam?

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

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Hey I'm back on the steam train. Choo choo... TO DEATH

https://go.twitch.tv/griddead

And we're back

Gridlocked fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Nov 11, 2017

Gammymajams
Jan 30, 2016

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Woohoo, the developers posted a positive comment on my guide =)

You deserve it, you've posted some really useful stuff in this thread.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Tias posted:

Where yo guide at? Steam?

Yup


Gammymajams posted:

You deserve it, you've posted some really useful stuff in this thread.

thanks!

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Cool, checking.

Oh, score! I just had a three skull village defend mission, and the attackers bring hedge knights with named weapons for the taking :o

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

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Hey more BB stream time!

https://go.twitch.tv/griddead

Flopstick
Jul 10, 2011

Top Cop
Just played this for the first time. It's really good! Exactly my kind of thing. How are you supposed to get contracts in the early game though? Everywhere I go, they're locked out, and I'm just burning through all my money trying to find one I can do. (Or will be, when I start again, because my whole company just got wiped by some seriously over-equipped brigands.)

Tylana
May 5, 2011

Pillbug
Might be an oddity of your seed. Basically villages and similar will give you contracts early, keeps, mottes, castles, cities etc won't until you complete an ambition about building a rep I think?

So depending on what settlements are around at all, you could be stuck in a hard place.

Flopstick
Jul 10, 2011

Top Cop
Ah, kk. Oh well, back to the fray. Thanks!

Flopstick
Jul 10, 2011

Top Cop
Hey, is there any reason not to try for a 'we need to be paid more than this' on every single contract? Does it have any kind of deleterious effect in the background, on your reputation or whatever?

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
You can lose reputation with the faction/town and even lose the contract if you press to much. Rule of thumb for me is to ask for more once and accept it afterwards.

Related: You can "accept" the terms of the contract and then say that you have to think about it. It's mostly useful to check distances to other cities for courier/escort missions.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Flopstick posted:

Hey, is there any reason not to try for a 'we need to be paid more than this' on every single contract? Does it have any kind of deleterious effect in the background, on your reputation or whatever?

I've never had a bad thing happen to me for always asking for more. But do NOT ask for more after the first ask, because people get really mad.

Clark Nova
Jul 18, 2004

iirc someone sperged on the math and it is much, much better to get the full reputation increase from not bartering if you plan on visiting that town a lot.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Then again, there's running costs to think about in the short term.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
you can sometimes get substantially more based on the modality of your ask - doing a patrol for heads, for example, can get you a lot more sometimes. beyond that, the reputation is more worth it even if you don't plan on visiting very often. negotiation will rarely get you more than a few extra crowns before things get iffy. if your operating costs in the short term are being cut so close that those few crowns will matter, you have hosed up pretty bad.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Which are better in your opinion, Battleforged or Nimble duellants?

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
Better reputation means better prices for buying and selling items, so it's worth at least taking contracts as-is from whatever village or city you prefer using as a "base" in an area. Think about how often you buy tools and food or how much random junk you sell and it becomes clear pretty quickly that it doesn't take long for a few extra gold per item to add up and become more valuable than an extra payment on a contract.

Donkringel
Apr 22, 2008
I am now nearly a year into my company. The fights are huge. I did however get 5 legendaries in a row. 3 armors a sword and dirk.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

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Hey guys,

Doing some https://www.twitch.tv/griddead STREAAAMMM for a half hour.

Love Gridlocked.

Talky
Mar 26, 2010
I want to be good at this game, but I think I’m bad at it.

I watch my poor outlast little dudes die and I get sad, and then I restart the campaign.

How do I feel less bad about my pixel-people dying? I have this same problem with x-com, xenonaughts, fire emblem, etc

Donkringel
Apr 22, 2008

Talky posted:

I want to be good at this game, but I think I’m bad at it.

I watch my poor outlast little dudes die and I get sad, and then I restart the campaign.

How do I feel less bad about my pixel-people dying? I have this same problem with x-com, xenonaughts, fire emblem, etc

Dont give them names. Something generic. Deadguy 1, 2 etc.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Talky posted:

I want to be good at this game, but I think I’m bad at it.

I watch my poor outlast little dudes die and I get sad, and then I restart the campaign.

How do I feel less bad about my pixel-people dying? I have this same problem with x-com, xenonaughts, fire emblem, etc

Same here. Either I savescum, or I try not to get attached, I guess.

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Eeepies
May 29, 2013

Bocchi-chan's... dead.
We'll have to find a new guitarist.
Goddamnit my first try into Veteran Ironman didn't go too well. Orc Invasion, the star of my team was the Level 11 Bow, level 10 Bow, and Level 9 Crossbows. Rest were 5-8s. Goblin Wolfrider ambush and all my ranged people just died at the start of the Orc Invasion. They're so much more terrifying than the Noble House War.

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