lost in postation posted:

A literal fascist pig!

Kassad posted:

I'm just going to leave this here:



A member of the Front National pretended to have been kidnapped in order to run away with her lover.
_{Suspected of the kidnapping for a time, the husband ordered his pig to bite a policewoman of North African descent during a house search.}

Absurd Alhazred posted:

https://twitter.com/iskandrah/status/930291677037600768

Please tell me that there's a misunderstanding here.

HookShot posted:

I mean, it can be done not too stupidly, in Canada it's 14, but only if the person the 14-year-old is banging is 16 or younger. For everyone else the law is 16.

quote:

Two recent court cases have heightened the debate over who is old enough to consent to sex under French law.

A jury last week acquitted a 30-year-old man who was accused of raping an 11-year-old girl in 2009, French media reported. The jury in the Paris suburb region of Seine-et-Marne found that while there had been a sexual relationship between the girl and the man, it did not constitute rape according to the legal definition of the crime in France.

The girl's parents reportedly found out about what had happened when their daughter became pregnant.

French media also have reported that the prosecutor's office in the city of Pontoise near Paris decided in September that a 28-year-old man suspected of having sex with an 11-year-old girl should be tried for sexual abuse instead of rape because of how French law defines rape.

French law defines rape as any act of sexual penetration committed on others "by violence, coercion, threat or surprise." The definition does not distinguish between adults and minors for either the victims or perpetrators, although the potential criminal penalty is higher when victims are under 15.

A minimum age of sexual consent does not currently exist in French law. The law only says that an adult who performs a sexual act with a person under the age of 15 "without violence, coercion, threat or surprise" can be prosecuted for "sexual abuse," not rape.

In both of the recent cases, investigators reportedly found that the sexual relationships did not involve surprise, threat, coercion or violence.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

HookShot posted:

Yeah, I don't see your point? Under Canadian law all of those examples would be considered rape, but teenagers are still able to bang each other freely the way kids do without it being illegal.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Yeah, you clearly don't. I quoted that tweet because it seemed insane to me that France has no age of consent law. What the gently caress did you think I was trying to say?

HookShot posted:

Oh, I thought your point was that 13 is a ridiculously low age of consent. I mean, no 30-year-old should be banging 13-year-olds, quite frankly.

Le monde posted:

La loi française ne définit pas le consentement en tant que tel mais son expression, qui est définie comme l’absence de :

* violences ;
* contraintes : recours à des pressions physiques ou morales, abus de sa position ;
* menaces : annonces de représailles en cas de refus de la victime ;
* surprise : recours à un stratagème pour surprendre la victime ou abuser de son état d’inconscience, d’alcoolémie, etc.

Même sans élément matériel, la « contrainte » peut être établie par la relation de pouvoir que l’agresseur entretien avec le mineur, s’il s’agit d’un ascendant (père, mère, grand-père…) ou d’un adulte en position d’autorité (professeur, médecin…).

L’absence de recours à la violence, à la contrainte, à la menace ou à la surprise ne signifie pas pour autant qu’il y a consentement, mais qu’il n’existe pas d’expression de consentement. Cette nuance est importante.

Actuellement, l’atteinte sexuelle sur une personne de moins de quinze ans est pénalement réprimée car on estime qu’un mineur suffisament jeune ne peut consentir librement à un acte sexuel avec un majeur.

Ce que la législation actuelle ne permet pas, c’est de qualifier tout acte sexuel commis avec une personne de moins de quinze ans comme nécessairement perpetré avec violence, contrainte, menace ou surprise, ce qui le ferait rentrer forcément dans le champ des agressions sexuelles (et des viols, si pénétration).

L’article 222-22-1 dispose tout de même que « la différence d’âge entre l’agresseur et sa victime mineure peut constituer une contrainte morale », sans préciser quel est cet écart. Dans un arrêt de 2005, la Cour de cassation inclut dans la définition de contrainte ou surprise un âge « suffisamment peu élevé » pour que la victime ne puisse avoir « aucune idée de ce qu’est la sexualité ».

La situation semble claire pour de très jeunes enfants, de 3 ou 4 ans, mais la loi n’empêche pas aujourd’hui de considérer qu’un acte sexuel avec un mineur de 11 ans ait pu être commis sans recours à la violence, à la contrainte, à la menace ou à la surprise.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Yeah, you clearly don't. I quoted that tweet because it seemed insane to me that France has no age of consent law. What the gently caress did you think I was trying to say?

quote:

Une centaine de cadres et de militants s'apprêteraient à démissionner collectivement pour protester contre la désignation de la nouvelle direction et pour dénoncer les dérives de la majorité.
...
les 380.000 militants revendiqués par LREM ne pourront pas voter comme dans les autres partis: seul un collège d'élus, de cadres et 200 militants tirés au sort sont appelés à exprimer leur choix ce samedi, avec un seul candidat proposé.

unpacked robinhood posted:

Low intensity drama inbound at LREM

https://twitter.com/AlertesInfos/status/930360650827730944


source

Kassad posted:

Everybody say "hi" to the DGSI:

https://twitter.com/Elsa_Trujillo_/status/930375212092329984

In English: the 2015 intelligence bill allowed the use of "black boxes" to sift through online traffic (no one knows exactly how, it's all classified). They were thought not to be active but the head of the intelligence oversight committee just revealed that they've been operating for a month.

unpacked robinhood posted:

"Oh no everyone is using encryption now "

unpacked robinhood posted:

Who was the idiot who said if unbreakable encryption was a thing they would have math comply, by law !! ? I can't remember the exact quote.

unpacked robinhood posted:

Who was the idiot who said if unbreakable encryption was a thing they would have math comply, by law !! ? I can't remember the exact quote.

Malcolm Turnbull posted:

The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia

Cat Mattress posted:

You're probably thinking of the Australian premier.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/07/14/malcolm-turnbull-says-laws-australia-trump-laws-mathematics/

quote:

«Lorsque les technologies de chiffrement sont utilisées par des groupes criminels, voire terroristes, il doit exister une possibilité d’accès au contenu des communications et à leurs métadonnées ».

«Il n’est pas question ici de portes dérobées ou d’interdiction du chiffrement, mais de permettre que les gouvernements et les entreprises développent des solutions conjointes sur ces questions »

Kassad posted:

Macron's not the only one with a pensée complexe.

lost in postation posted:

What a mess. I've liked Charlie Hebdo for a long time but Riss earnestly accusing people of being "islamo-gauchistes" sucks major balls, especially now that Charlie is a weird sort of national institution. His interview in Le Figaro veers a bit too uncomfortably to a literal fash plank for my comfort.

lost in postation posted:

What a mess. I've liked Charlie Hebdo for a long time but Riss earnestly accusing people of being "islamo-gauchistes" sucks major balls, especially now that Charlie is a weird sort of national institution. His interview in Le Figaro veers a bit too uncomfortably to a literal fash plank for my comfort.

Kassad posted:

Valls update: still a raging rear end in a top hat

https://twitter.com/PaulAveline/status/930731935692967936

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Large portions of the left turning on you after half your editorial staff were killed by Islamist terrorists, and having 2 minutes of hate about you every once in a while, could make you believe in islamo-gauchisme.

ElNarez posted:

like, come the gently caress on, Charlie Hebdo, Valls and all their friends are loving racist as all hell, and they throw big tantrums any time someone points that out

Kassad posted:

Hey now, it's about protecting freedom of speech. Mediapart, though? Those terrorist-lovers can get hosed.

ElNarez posted:

what next, stopping us from saying bakers who don't serve ham sandwiches and women who wear veils are in on some grand conspiracy to make terrorism happen?

unpacked robinhood posted:

Nice whatever fallacy that is

Kassad posted:

Yeah because in France in 2017, it's not like far-right ideas are becoming increasingly normalized. The bigger threat sure as hell isn't a handful of terrorist fuckwits that literally everyone hates and who don't even have a snowball's chance in hell of getting any kind of actual power.

ElNarez posted:

tell that to Riss

https://charliehebdo.fr/en/edito/how-did-we-end-up-here/

quote:

Au centre commercial Italie, dans le quartier rennais du Blosne, le boucher-traiteur a définitivement fermé ses portes fin avril. « Usé par les pressions », le commerçant a vendu ses murs. Début juin, dans un local rénové, s’installera une boucherie halal, la deuxième de cet ensemble qui compte une quinzaine d’enseignes.

En onze ans d’exploitation, le boucher s’est fait démolir sa vitrine une dizaine de fois. Pourquoi ? « Parce que j’avais le malheur de vendre du porc ! », assure Jérôme. Il y a quelques années, une inscription d’une cinquantaine de centimètres a été gravée au couteau sur la porte en bois de son arrière-boutique : « A mort les porcs, on vous saignera. »

« Comme les fois précédentes, j’ai déposé plainte au commissariat. Comme les fois précédentes, les policiers ont refusé de se déplacer pour constater. Je suis amer. » Selon le quadragénaire, les intimidations sont allées jusqu’aux menaces physiques. « Il y a trois ans, un soir, une dizaine de voyous est entrée dans ma boutique. Ils m’ont dit que si le lendemain, vendredi, je faisais cuire des galettes-saucisses dehors, comme c’était la tradition depuis toujours, ça se passerait très mal. Du coup, j’ai arrêté de faire des galettes-saucisses le vendredi, jour de prière chez les musulmans. Je les ai faites le samedi en fin de matinée, quand les perturbateurs de ce quartier dorment encore.»

unpacked robinhood posted:

Far right ideology hasn't been an increasingly successful ideology of violence tailored for disenfranchised and idiot youths for decades though.

unpacked robinhood posted:

Thanks, that's a pretty good take on the current situation, kinda limited in scope though.

lost in postation posted:

e: And what the hell does it imply we should do about it? Ban halal bakeries to stop terrorism?

Kassad posted:

LMAO, whatever you say

unpacked robinhood posted:

I think one of his points is that a known two faced rear end in a top hat with an agenda like Ramadan shouldn't be allowed to speak at Sciences Po like an actual teacher.