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Reveilled posted:Don't be disingenuous. We're talking about sugar as an actual ingredient, not any natural sugar which might exist within the other ingredients. Right, because if we talk your way we can be prissy little euro-twits who can pretend there's no sugar as we lie to ourselves. Come off it, clown. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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fishmech posted:Right, because if we talk your way we can be prissy little euro-twits who can pretend there's no sugar as we lie to ourselves. Come off it, clown. Fishmech, I really wish that just once in your life you'd try to have a good faith discussion.
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fishmech posted:Right, because if we talk your way we can be prissy little euro-twits who can pretend there's no sugar as we lie to ourselves. Come off it, clown. I ask this as politely as possible, but are you suffering from some kind of reading comprehension issue? Because we constantly get these slapfights where you mischaracterize something someone else writes in the most hostile way possible.
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Nobody has used the word twit since 1980.
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fishmech posted:Right, because if we talk your way we can be prissy little euro-twits who can pretend there's no sugar as we lie to ourselves. Come off it, clown. Fishmech please stop badposting, the point isn't whether  there are actually more carbohydrate calories in the starch part than the added sugar part, it's that US style bread tastes sweet which is bad and unbready.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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learnincurve posted:Nobody has used the word twit since 1980. People call people who use twitter this.
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JnnyThndrs posted:I thought adding a little sugar to bread dough feeds the yeast and doesn't really flavor the finished product? I generally only eat sourdough bread and occasionally rye, so I don't get the USA BREAD IS CAKE thing, although that cheap white Wonderbread poo poo is truly awful. Depends a lot on what yeast you're using in what dough, but generally the yeast will feed on the sugar content of the starch in the flour. You can add a little sugar/potato if you want to help the process along, but too much will dry out the dough and limit the growth of the yeast. I don't think it's that hard to find decent bread in the US; most grocery stores have a bakery department of some sort and the shorter shelf life means there's always a loaf on sale if you're willing to eat it quickly. I know a lot of people will get the mass produced stuff to keep in the pantry for quick meals, and then buy a loaf of bakery stuff a few times a month to go with dinner that'll get eaten in a day or two.
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there wolf posted:Depends a lot on what yeast you're using in what dough, but generally the yeast will feed on the sugar content of the starch in the flour. You can add a little sugar/potato if you want to help the process along, but too much will dry out the dough and limit the growth of the yeast. Is it sourdough, wholemeal and has to actually be chewed instead of melting away like cotton candy? If that's not an option then your bread isn't actually decent 
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fishmech is the holy dove setting out across the shoreless hungry ocean of breadchat to find an olive tree
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blowfish posted:Is it
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much like faux-rural American'ts, faux-bread is more widespread than the real thing in the USA
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That reminds me, does anyone else run into the problem of grocery store bakeries selling sliced, under-baked bread? Like, the bottoms are mostly white but the tops are Golden brown? I've run into under-baked sandwhich bread with the orida wide loaves too, but much less severe.
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blowfish posted:Fishmech please stop badposting, the point isn't whether Yeah that's not true though? Again unless you choose to only compare European rock bread that's barely fit for an unfavorable mule to the cheapest possible garbage white you can find in the US. Reveilled posted:Fishmech, I really wish that just once in your life you'd try to have a good faith discussion. I'm having a good faith discussion, yall are spasming over 0.001% higher sugar content across all breads meaning everything is now cake because you once bought knockoff wonder bread at a supermarket outside Orlando. fishmech fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Nov 14, 2017 |
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It’s not rock hard nasty bread, it’s nice soft fluffy breads You are aware that stuff like https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_syrup makes the whole added sugar debate seem a little silly. We just add it on top instead.
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exploded mummy posted:Acrually if you refer to DOA standard A-A-20052.... Holy poo poo!!! : COMMERCIAL ITEM DESCRIPTION BREAD, FRESH OR FROZEN The U.S. Department of Agriculture has authorized the use of this Commercial Item Description. 1. SCOPE. 1.1 This Commercial Item Description (CID) covers fresh or frozen bread, packed in commercially acceptable containers, suitable for use by Federal, State, and local governments and other interested parties. I mean....They have a spec sheet for bread standardization!
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TyroneGoldstein posted:Holy poo poo!!! : Well yeah. It's a foodstuff, that has to be inspected. Why wouldn't it have a spec sheet?
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Liquid Communism posted:Well yeah. It's a foodstuff, that has to be inspected. Why wouldn't it have a spec sheet? I just forget sometimes that they're an entire department of our Government that classifies and standardizes everything.
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TyroneGoldstein posted:I just forget sometimes that they're an entire department of our Government that classifies and standardizes everything. how exactly did you think the FDA and stuff work? you can't hold food to a certain quality standard without having a standard in the first place
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Liquid Communism posted:This is absolutely a thing. From WW2 to the late 90's, mixed-use developments weren't really a thing. They're only really starting to come back in a lot of places as people gentrify old downtowns. Mixed use developments are extremely good and I love them. I would suspect that is these were more common, the convenience factor of purchasing a thing would far outweigh that of purchasing from Amazon, provided the price difference isn’t too different.
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TyroneGoldstein posted:I just forget sometimes that they're an entire department of our Government that classifies and standardizes everything. Two, interestingly. The USDA and the FDA handle different aspects of the food trade.
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Liquid Communism posted:Like I said, bougie as gently caress. You are in the business of owning the means of production. That's not a bad business to be in, but it also informs your opinions. yes lets put the lowly janitor with no experience in managing costs or analyzing foot traffic in charge of site selection or store management.
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TyroneGoldstein posted:Holy poo poo!!! : [url posted:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6481969.stm[/url]]As Commission Regulation (EC) 2257/94 puts it, bananas must be "free from malformation or abnormal curvature". In the case of "Extra class" bananas, there is no wiggle room, but Class 1 bananas can have "slight defects of shape", and Class 2 bananas can have full-on "defects of shape".
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Magius1337est posted:yes lets put the lowly janitor with no experience in managing costs or analyzing foot traffic in charge of site selection or store management. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StIcRH_e6zQ
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Magius1337est posted:yes lets put the lowly janitor with no experience in managing costs or analyzing foot traffic in charge of site selection or store management. you sit on your rear end all day and do nothing of value, i dont know why you keep trying to justify yourself, embrace winning the capitalism game dude
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well the average american foodservice worker is probably closer to him in living standards than they are to most people on earth, so agreed
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Magius1337est posted:yes lets put the lowly janitor with no experience in managing costs or analyzing foot traffic in charge of site selection or store management. Good mangement allows information, and that foot traffic is a great example, to flow upwards from the lowest employees. Yes we should listen to what they have to say about it.
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When I worked in a restaurant, the owner was there 15 hours most every day working his rear end off, and was involved in just about every aspect of the place. That may just be the difference between an independent, somewhat upscale place and a fast food franchise, but I'd wager the place would have been a lot less successful if he'd just sat at home wanking into spreadsheets
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If one is asking employees or frankly any member of any organization to really go above and beyond, well they see everything one does and judge it when deciding if they will. But that's small unit leadership most managers know gently caress all about leadership.
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Crow Jane posted:When I worked in a restaurant, the owner was there 15 hours most every day working his rear end off, and was involved in just about every aspect of the place. That may just be the difference between an independent, somewhat upscale place and a fast food franchise, but I'd wager the place would have been a lot less successful if he'd just sat at home wanking into spreadsheets I mean, if you are in restaurant work, spreadsheets are really one of the better places to wank into.
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Crow Jane posted:When I worked in a restaurant, the owner was there 15 hours most every day working his rear end off, and was involved in just about every aspect of the place. That may just be the difference between an independent, somewhat upscale place and a fast food franchise, but I'd wager the place would have been a lot less successful if he'd just sat at home wanking into spreadsheets I hated it when the owner came back into the kitchen. The fucker would just sit there and stare at people while being in the way. Commercial kitchens aren't roomy places to begin with, having some douche standing there with his hands on his hips between the line and the fridge didn't help.
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Magius1337est posted:yes lets put the lowly janitor with no experience in managing costs or analyzing foot traffic in charge of site selection or store management. I don't think you get it. I'm not harshing on you. I'm just saying that someone with significant financial resources who is in the rent-seeking level of capitalism is going to have different consumer opinions than the vast majority of schlubs on the street.
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mandatory lesbian posted:you sit on your rear end all day and do nothing of value, i dont know why you keep trying to justify yourself, embrace winning the capitalism game dude there's a reason people like you are easily replaceable.
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Here's an idea, a completely horizontally organized company that manages to stay in business and not cannibalize itself or fail to make any important decisions.
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site location, demographic analyzation, product ordering and throughput, operation efficiency, employee management, consumer satisfaction, you know, all the poo poo that requires a college degree and that the parent company doesn't want to deal with why, what do you do in your job?
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Lol, you're such a loving douchebag. You do realize you still work in fast food, college degree or no, right?
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Crow Jane posted:Lol, you're such a loving douchebag. You do realize you still work in fast food, college degree or no, right? least I'm not scrubbing bathrooms
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Magius1337est posted:least I'm not scrubbing bathrooms I wouldn't really expect a piece of poo poo to know how to clean a bathroom 
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I worked in a MacDonald’s in my youth also a supermac. Best, least stressful jobs I’ve ever had, with the nicest most diverse group of people. I often wonder what would have happened if I’d gone on to management rather than university. If they paid the living wage rather than minimum wage I would happily work in fast food again.  That is my fast food worker story.
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Magius1337est posted:least I'm not scrubbing bathrooms haha all of your employees hate you and know where the blind spots in the cameras are so they can gently caress off while you're sitting in your fortress of solitude pretending to be a captain of industry i'm sure spending your dads money on some subway franchises empowers you but your bitterness is practically dripping off my screen
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