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Majorian posted:Time to get your catheters ready, Dems. Nah. You just have to get a republican bathroom buddy. This is the Actual Bathroom Bill.
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OAquinas posted:Nah. You just have to get a republican bathroom buddy. So in other words, in order to make a motion, you need a second?
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Quorum posted:So I'm back at my computer and I've got actual thoughts on this now. 1) First, again, still a prediction based on how recounts turn out, so adjust your expectations accordingly. 2) Second, while fly-by-night procedural tricks are definitely a possibility with the House of Delegates locked in deadlock, the Republicans actually have less incentive to do this than Democrats do, because any bill that passes the House still has to pass the Senate, which remains in 31-29 Republican control, and then be signed by a Governor Northam who is surely not interested in signing bullshit. The Senate has also proven more willing to deal with Democrats on certain matters, like redistricting reform. 3) Third, the last time this happened, the Democrats got the Speakership because one of the Republican delegates was late being seated; if that happens again, whichever party has the advantage is going to get the Speakership, and I don't expect as much collegiality in the chamber as there was in 1997. If both parties are at parity when the session is seated in January, I honestly don't know what will happen, as it'll depend on their power sharing negotiations, which I don't doubt are already going on behind the scenes in the event it officially turns out in a tie. We might see a consensus, outside Speaker, or the Governor might bribe one of the weakest Delegates and/or Senators in the Republican caucus with a plum position to sway the balance of power (that's happened before). I don't know, and neither does anybody else! Whee! It's likely to be interesting enough that there might be call for a thread to keep discussing Virginia stuff (and maybe DC/Maryland also) after the elections of this year are over and done, honestly. Republicans first gained control of the WA state senate by offering certain moderate/right-leaning democrats top positions if they caucused with the Republicans instead. Power-sharing agreements can do weird-rear end poo poo.
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Quorum posted:So in other words, in order to make a motion, you need a second? Hell, if you want to pass anything at all.
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You laughed at Turning Points USA for diaping up to own the libs, but who's laughing now?
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/930236852266848256 https://twitter.com/LOLGOP/status/930279691205914624
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Absurd Alhazred posted:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/930236852266848256 Not smart to deny even knowing her when she loving has proof that you did, dumbass.
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Alter Ego posted:Not smart to deny even knowing her when she loving has proof that you did, dumbass. He's banking on his base being post-truth.
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Hey guys! Get excited! In 2018, there will be credible challengers to Paul Ryan on the ballot!  Randy Bryce (IronStache) is an ironworker, labor activist, Army veteran, Caledonia resident (suburb of Racine, Wisconsin) who is the favorite to win the Democratic primary. He was just endorsed by Bernie Sanders today. I like him, he's from my hometown, he's got mad Twitter game, and best of all, he's running on a good platform. Randy Bryce's issue page posted:Instead of fighting for a Single Payer Health Care system that will ensure that all of us can be healthy and receive treatment, Speaker Ryan is working on taking health care away from up to 32 million Americans, while giving huge tax cuts to billionaires and millionaires. His opponent in the primary is Cathy Myers (CathyMyersWI), a resident of Janesville, which is Paul Ryan's hometown. She is a member of the Janesville School Board, and a local activist for helping alcoholics and those addicted to drugs. She seems like a nice lady, though she has a lower media profile than Bryce. Her issues page is in a format that is harder to quote, but please take a look. Overall these candidates are running on fairly similar platforms, and either one of them would be good candidates I would be happy with. Bryce likely has a better chance to actually beat Ryan, and is more likely to win the primary as things are currently going, but still, this is not an establishment/outsider kind of primary like the VA Gov was. Anyone who is from Wisconsin or otherwise interested, get excited! Both of these people are cool and have a chance to unseat our garbage Speaker of the House.  Edit: I made this post to tell people to vote in the primary, specifically. Go vote in the primary! Lightning Knight fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Nov 14, 2017 |
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Lightning Knight posted:Hey guys! Get excited! In 2018, there will be credible challengers to Paul Ryan on the ballot! Worth noting that both of these candidates are basically running in spite of the state party rather than through any maneuvering of the part. The WisDems are still as incompetent as ever.
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cis autodrag posted:Worth noting that both of these candidates are basically running in spite of the state party rather than through any maneuvering of the part. The WisDems are still as incompetent as ever. why is that worth mentioning
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cis autodrag posted:Worth noting that both of these candidates are basically running in spite of the state party rather than through any maneuvering of the part. The WisDems are still as incompetent as ever. Is Mike Tate still running that joint? He was the dumb fucker that thought running Tom Barrett in the Walker recall was the best the party could do.
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cis autodrag posted:Worth noting that both of these candidates are basically running in spite of the state party rather than through any maneuvering of the part. The WisDems are still as incompetent as ever. If the state party was maneuvering a candidate through the primary wouldn't that be a bad thing?
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theflyingorc posted:why is that worth mentioning So that people might realize it needs fixing? Why is that statement worth questioning?
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Cerebral Bore posted:So that people might realize it needs fixing? Why is that statement worth questioning? Wait you really think the state democratic party should be supporting primary candidates?
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Trabisnikof posted:Wait you really think the state democratic party should be supporting primary candidates? Not really, but I can believe they're incompetent.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Not really, but I can believe they're incompetent. Oh yeah, that's a good guess generally.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:He's banking on his base being post-truth. Just heard an interview with an Alabama pastor on NPR, and his base is definitely post-truth. It was all, "I believe in Roy Moore", "Washington post is liberal news", "Republicans and Democrats are out to get him" crap. Big thing is will 15-20% of his base believe the women enough to not vote for him. That's probably how many need to sit home for Jones to win.
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Trabisnikof posted:Wait you really think the state democratic party should be supporting primary candidates? the state party planned to let ryan run uncontested. that there are any primary candidates at all is unusual, because the wisdems are bad at recruiting.
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https://twitter.com/geoffreyvs/status/930639519673659392?s=17 Dem pick up in OK senate, will go to recount.
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farraday posted:Dem pick up in OK senate, will go to recount. Any info on who won, what kind of campaign they ran, and where they stand on the issues?
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Lightning Knight posted:Any info on who won, what kind of campaign they ran, and where they stand on the issues? http://www.ally4ok.com/ http://tulsabeacon.com/senate-candidate-a-democrat-is-married-to-another-woman/
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farraday posted:http://www.ally4ok.com/ Wow, neat. Thanks! She seems cool and good, I hope she does well. 
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Lightning Knight posted:Any info on who won, what kind of campaign they ran, and where they stand on the issues? Allison Ikley-Freeman http://www.ally4ok.com/issues quote:Education She seems pretty good on the issues, and seems local. I don't live in Oklahoma so another goon can chime in, but based on her platform that's a hell of a win in Trump +39.
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Education is huge in Oklahoma right now. Governor Falin has absolutely ripped up public funding for education over the last few years and it's showing, so people are getting angry at the Republicans over that and opening a door for Democrats to make a move. Turns out you can win white middle class suburbs when they can visibly see their children suffering due to lack of public funding for teachers/facilities/paper/whatever
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FaustianQ posted:Allison Ikley-Freeman "Oklahoma continues to make national new for officer involved shootings." I mean she won so I can't complain but it really bothers me when people have such amateur-hour websites 
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The Glumslinger posted:http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-palm-springs-lgbt-council-20171115-story.html They should start the first meeting with a presentation of their Gay Agenda.
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Jamelle Bouie writes in Slate about Northam's victory in Virginia, and how it could apply as a lesson to the upcoming special election in Alabama. tl:dr high black turnout helped Northam a great deal in Virginia, and could provide a path to victory for Jones.
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theflyingorc posted:They should start the first meeting with a presentation of their Gay Agenda. Whatever the agenda is for the first meeting will, by default, be a Gay Agenda. 
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Lightning Knight posted:tl:dr high black turnout helped Northam a great deal in Virginia, and could provide a path to victory for Jones. northam did about as well with black voters as hillary last year (gillespie gained 3 points over trump) but significantly better among whites, while turnout was roughly the same i mean sure, match presidential election turnout in an off-off year election and the dems stand a chance, but that's not really a major revelation
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uhhh... https://twitter.com/DanielStrauss4/status/930887318466154496 
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I think there's usually one or two polls that are off by ten or more points but even if this is the extreme outlier that means the race is tied. In Alabama. And, statistically speaking, any individual poll is unlikely to be the outlier so this is insane.
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cheetah7071 posted:I think there's usually one or two polls that are off by ten or more points but even if this is the extreme outlier that means the race is tied. In Alabama. And, statistically speaking, any individual poll is unlikely to be the outlier so this is insane. Internal party polling is USUALLY better than randos, I think.
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Lightning Knight posted:It’s not that it’s revelatory, it’s that it offers hope. reminds me there was an article on either 538 or maybe from william frey at brookings from before last year's election positing that faster-growing southern states (va, nc, ga, fl, tx in roughly that order) are going to become the next democratic stronghold while the rust belt becomes solidly republican
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theflyingorc posted:Internal party polling is USUALLY better than randos, I think. On the other hand, leaked polls usually exist to drive a narrative. In this case that Moore should drop out. So I'm a bit skeptical. Still
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axeil posted:On the other hand, leaked polls usually exist to drive a narrative. In this case that Moore should drop out. So I'm a bit skeptical. Still I wish we lived in a world where it wasn't surprising that child molesters lose elections.
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what the gently caress https://twitter.com/krystalball/status/930836607921303552
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