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Despite hating Bruce Tinsley and everything he believes in, I legit find Mallard Fillmore entertaining and look forward to seeing them. Go get'em you drunk little duck you. 
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Aramek posted:Despite hating Bruce Tinsley and everything he believes in, I legit find Mallard Fillmore entertaining and look forward to seeing them. This is just baffling
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Nov 15, 2017 15:18
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Henchman of Santa posted:This is just baffling I have a weird soft spot for Mallard Fillmore just because of how much poo poo it's rightfully gotten that I pretty much view his comics as parodies now and laugh from that perspective
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Nov 15, 2017 16:51
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Henchman of Santa posted:People need to calm the gently caress down about cheese. It's a great food, but every other post on my Facebook timeline is a video about some awesome cheese related recipe. It's reaching bacon territory. I love cheese too and I agree with you. I get a queasy feeling every time I see one of those videos with the slab of melted cheese they just drop on some other kind of food.
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Nov 15, 2017 16:54
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King of Foolians posted:I love cheese too and I agree with you. I get a queasy feeling every time I see one of those videos with the slab of melted cheese they just drop on some other kind of food. Yeah I hate that. lovely recipe videos with zoomed-in slomo shots of a pound of melty cheese.
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Nov 15, 2017 17:01
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People opposed to deer hunting are telling you they don't know jack poo poo about deer or hunting. And the capacity to create and use tools is a human's greatest natural defense, so the complaint about it not being fair is bogus. Ain't nobody bitchin' when chimps use spears or an alligator sets up bird traps. Hunting thoughts.
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Nov 15, 2017 17:03
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I've never eaten cheese
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Nov 15, 2017 17:14
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Das Boo posted:People opposed to deer hunting are telling you they don't know jack poo poo about deer or hunting. I think deer are cute and I would never harm one just for the sake of it, but I do understand that they are pests and hurt a lot of people on roads. also venison is really good if it's cooked right.
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Nov 15, 2017 17:16
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EmmyOk posted:I've never eaten cheese The gently caress I am amaged that you don't know the pleasures of milk gone off big time stylee.
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Nov 15, 2017 17:42
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EmmyOk posted:I've never eaten cheese lol if you're lactose intolerant just lol
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Nov 15, 2017 17:48
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I don’t like smug hunting people. I can understand the necessity of certain hunts without being excited about humans who get off on killing. Helps that they’re usually right-wing bozos.
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Nov 15, 2017 17:49
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Hunting for food is fair enough. Not a fan of hunting for sport, though. No strong feelings on fishing, because you can usually throw them back if you don't want to eat them, whereas you can't really put a fox or a badger back together after the bloodhounds are through with it.
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Nov 15, 2017 17:53
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Wheat Loaf posted:Hunting for food is fair enough. Not a fan of hunting for sport, though. No strong feelings on fishing, because you can usually throw them back if you don't want to eat them, whereas you can't really put a fox or a badger back together after the bloodhounds are through with it. Fishing, much like hunting, is good as long as you follow the rules. I definitely prefer catch and release, but when you're in norway for probably the only time in your life, when you catch a 70 pound cod it's almost disrespectful to throw it back. As long as you actually use it and aren't doing it purely for sport I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Nov 15, 2017 17:57
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Randaconda posted:lol if you're lactose intolerant I'm not
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All the hunters I've ever known use the meat. A lot of them are on the poor end of the scale and count on their kills to feed their families. And adrenaline spoils the meat, so everyone's going for a quick kill. Deer will also wreck their environments and wind up starving to death over the winter, so hey.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Fishing, much like hunting, is good as long as you follow the rules. I definitely prefer catch and release, but when you're in norway for probably the only time in your life, when you catch a 70 pound cod it's almost disrespectful to throw it back. As long as you actually use it and aren't doing it purely for sport I don't see anything wrong with that. Seems reasonable.
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Das Boo posted:All the hunters I've ever known use the meat. A lot of them are on the poor end of the scale and count on their kills to feed their families. And adrenaline spoils the meat, so everyone's going for a quick kill. Deer will also wreck their environments and wind up starving to death over the winter, so hey. Same. Everybody I know who hunts around here hunts to supplement their food.
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there's a big difference between killing a deer to put in your freezer and eat, and rich guys flying to Africa so they can blow a Rhino's head off and post it on Facebook. Not that that is an unpopular opinion just saying not all hunting is created equal. I do find mounting animals a very weird practice though unless it's for educational purposes.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:32
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veni veni veni posted:there's a big difference between killing a deer to put in your freezer and eat, and rich guys flying to Africa so they can blow a Rhino's head off and post it on Facebook. Yeah trophy hunting is indefensible, even moreso if it's an endangered species. I think these kind of hunters are not the real problem though. It's the people who think tiger cock or rhino horn is "medicine" that are the problem. They are what really drive the poachers to do what they do. Same with shark fins - most chefs agree that shark fin soup is nothing special and shark fins taste like nothing, but there is such a demand for it in asia that they will cut a shark's fins off and dump it back in the ocean still alive because its meat is not worth the fuel cost to bring it back to port.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:37
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Das Boo posted:People opposed to deer hunting are telling you they don't know jack poo poo about deer or hunting. As someone who used to be against hunting in my teens: Hunting is good*, rifle shooting is fun, deer jerky is the best jerky available, deer suck *don't hunt loving bobcats or wolves or bears you assholes, hunt pest animals only
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Nov 15, 2017 20:59
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EmmyOk posted:I've never eaten cheese I've jokingly asked a few times why you were made a mod but now I'm going to actually have to file a formal complaint and I don't appreciate you making me do that
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Nov 15, 2017 21:02
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Pedophiles need a support system to get the help they need to prevent themselves from being a danger to children, and that means fostering an environment where they can talk about needing help with that issue.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:12
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Turtlicious posted:Pedophiles need a support system to get the help they need to prevent themselves from being a danger to children, and that means fostering an environment where they can talk about needing help with that issue. I feel like sexual crimes in general shouldn't be treated like murder cases, in that the ramifications have often lead to the perpetrator killing the victim because they know the end result will be the same and they have a better chance if there isn't anyone to talk about it. I don't know what the proper answer to that problem is though
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Nov 15, 2017 21:18
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Better mental health services I imagine. By keeping our people mentally fit we can prevent a lot of undesirable behaviours.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:19
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Turtlicious posted:Better mental health services I imagine. By keeping our people mentally fit we can prevent a lot of undesirable behaviours. Would we be able to go so far as to let the state determine if forced mental counseling or inpatient treatments are necessary with out a crime?
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Nov 15, 2017 21:55
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Yes. The State is good.
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Aesop Poprock posted:I feel like sexual crimes in general shouldn't be treated like murder cases, in that the ramifications have often lead to the perpetrator killing the victim because they know the end result will be the same and they have a better chance if there isn't anyone to talk about it. I don't know what the proper answer to that problem is though I'm not sure that I follow, exactly, how sexual crimes are treated as murder cases. Like, the sentencing should be lighter for crimes with a sexual component, or you'd wish for prisoners' rights to be taken more seriously, so that inmate-on-inmate violence isn't considered some kind of justice? In-prison violence is absolutely a huge human rights issue, but I'm not sure I'm reading you right, is all. Solice Kirsk posted:Would we be able to go so far as to let the state determine if forced mental counseling or inpatient treatments are necessary with out a crime? Maybe I am misreading, or this is a joke that I am not getting, but is this seriously not possible in the US? Like, if someone's GP or psychiatrist or whoever believes that you are a legitimate threat to your own or others personal safety, you can't be forcibly committed if no crime has committed? I'm honestly surprised if that's the case.
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I think he means that there should be a non-negligible difference in consequences for rape vs murder, because if they’re the same or near enough, why wouldn’t you kill your victim to quiet the only witness. The right answer would be that you wouldn’t murder because you’re not human garbage. But if you’re doing a rape then I suspect that ship has left the dock if not passed out of the harbor completely.
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Imo there should definitely be an outlet for say, a pedophile or someone with rape or murder fantasies to self-report and get nonjudgmental therapy before they hurt someone. And yeah, sex criminals (and all criminals) should get more rehab and therapy and less abuse.
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There was a really good NPR piece about this a few years ago. Basically mental health professionals won't touch them with a ten foot pole because they are scared of being stigmatized themselves. They don't really have any outlets to get better, so they are pretty much stuck regulating themselves or going down a dark path. I wish I could remember more about it. It was pretty interesting.
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Aren't right to privacy laws regarding mental health practitioners basically doing this? I guess more education and less stigmatised media would be good, but I think there are more winnable fights.
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iirc it basically covered how almost no one wants to specialize in it. it featured a doctor who wanted to serve pedophiles and they said they were basically outcast for it, and they also interviewed a pedophile who said he had to use online support groups to keep himself at bay. He claimed that he couldn't find a mental health professional that didn't kick him out after the first visit.
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Nov 16, 2017 04:26
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Aramek posted:Yes. The State is good. I, too, enjoy 90's absurdist sketch comedies.
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Nov 16, 2017 04:27
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Das Boo posted:I, too, enjoy 90's absurdist sketch comedies. I'm outta heeeeeeeeeeeeere.
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Nov 16, 2017 04:34
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I dont think trans people should compete with and alongside cis people. At least we should take it on a case by case basis to determine if a given trans athlete has an inherent advantage or disadvantage against cis athletes (bone density, muscle mass, strength, etc.). And i say all of this as a trans woman genderweird myself lol.
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Nov 16, 2017 05:39
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Awesome. See you guys in like 5 pages.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Imo there should definitely be an outlet for say, a pedophile or someone with rape or murder fantasies to self-report and get nonjudgmental therapy before they hurt someone. And yeah, sex criminals (and all criminals) should get more rehab and therapy and less abuse. while i have sympathy for the overall situation of someone's screwed up brain releasing heaps of dopamine whenever they imagine/do something they know is extremely hosed up and wrong that unfortunate situation also makes them statistically very likely to offend and re-offend (sex criminals have some of the highest rates of recidivism in the criminal world) and there's little to no real information about how to reliably help them reject their own impulses when their brains reward these gross behaviors so intensely, we can't reliably expect rehabilitation/therapy to solve this issue so it's hard to imagine a more effective situation than what we have now with locking someone up for their own good for a time and then later having them warn neighbors about the consistently increased danger they present living nearby once returned to society - i'm sure general improvements like a less abusive prison system might have some effect but i'm not sure if it'll be the silver bullet either way this arrangement can turn someone into a pariah but, alternatively, can we expect parents to not have misgivings about these people when we know these facts? it's tough to make things worse i'm also familiar with cases of psychologists ultimately sharing some legal responsibility for their pedophile clients' crimes because defense attorneys have actually successfully argued that course of therapy they recommended was ineffective, and possibly made the client more likely to offend than normal, so it's not uncommon for a client to throw their psychologist under the bus if it'll mitigate their own sentence, legally untangling genuine attempts from a sincere psychologist who's trying to cure their patient from the criminally destructive/criminally negligent practices of an irresponsible psychologist is a grey area that i'm not surprised some professionals try to avoid altogether, to try and figure out the best rehabilitation do we try out experimental therapies on people who haven't offended yet and hope it doesn't make the situation worse for them or do we just experiment on prisoners who've already offended? is that an ethical situation? i don't envy anybody dealing with these questions hard counter has a new favorite as of 08:25 on Nov 16, 2017 |
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Isn't it like trying to pray the gay away? Honestly seems like they just drew a bad hand and they are hosed. Nobody wants to be born a pedo and there's probably nothing to help.
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hard counter posted:while i have sympathy for the overall situation of someone's screwed up brain releasing heaps of dopamine whenever they imagine/do something they know is extremely hosed up and wrong that unfortunate situation also makes them statistically very likely to offend and re-offend (sex criminals have some of the highest rates of recidivism in the criminal world) and there's little to no real information about how to reliably help them reject their own impulses when their brains reward these gross behaviors so intensely, we can't reliably expect rehabilitation/therapy to solve this issue so it's hard to imagine a more effective situation than what we have now Mu Zeta posted:Honestly seems like they just drew a bad hand and they are hosed. Nobody wants to be born a pedo and there's probably nothing to help.
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Mu Zeta posted:Isn't it like trying to pray the gay away? Honestly seems like they just drew a bad hand and they are hosed. Nobody wants to be born a pedo and there's probably nothing to help. that's a fair assessment yeah although it's also fair to say these people actually do have no alternative but to pray it goes away, knowing if there were better ways of praying or whatever would be a start since i doubt there'll ever be an acceptable outlet, outright rejection is prob the only way out recidivism at least isn't 100% so some people are finding a way out, maybe studying willing people who've stayed clean a long while would be a start in sorting out this issue
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