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Cowslips Warren posted:
Look at how humans treat humans who are servants, slaves or just a lower social status.
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Nov 15, 2017 16:04
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On the other end of the scale you have that film where a dude jerks off over his IPhone.
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Nov 15, 2017 16:11
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Drunken Baker posted:On the other end of the scale you have that film where a dude jerks off over his IPhone. Like you could resist Scarlett Johansson making gently caress noises in your ear.
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Nov 15, 2017 16:15
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Cowslips Warren posted:Much like the dinosaurs of Jurassic Park, they were genetically engineered sharks. I would save my smartphone and my laptop if I could. They... they mean everything to me. I'd also try to save my wife, I guess. Honestly though, with the cloud being as ubiquitous as it is, I'd imagine any android worth its salts would have a backup floating around somewhere. Edit: To be honest, I make fun of my microwave when the auto-reheat option gets confused about what I am reheating. "What? You don't know how to reheat a bowl of pasta? Really? Even I could probably figure that out. Error? Go back to Microwave school!" Edit2: I don't have friends. Help me.
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Nov 15, 2017 16:41
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bitterandtwisted posted:Look at how humans treat humans who are servants, slaves or just a lower social status. Or just have slightly different skin color or are from a different country or have different genitals. Humans are masters at finding reasons to be assholes unnecessarily.
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Nov 15, 2017 16:42
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Nov 15, 2017 17:11
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That guy will be first against the wall on Judgement Day
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Nov 15, 2017 17:20
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Omg he's obviously testing their self-correcting balance so they can make improvements and, ultimately, a better robot I do the same thing with my kids and eventually ones going to live to see grade school and loving run little league.
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Nov 15, 2017 17:31
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That little four-legged robot's balance adjustments are really cute. 
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Nov 15, 2017 17:37
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I think that's an easy one - the androids/robots aren't people and only "think" what they are programmed to. In the real world you wouldn't expect someone to show loyalty to the machine that saved them. It kind of irritated me in Stargate SG-1 when everyone was questioning whether it was wrong of them to betray the human form replicator just because he showed emotion - Jack was right, he's still just a robot no matter how nice of one he was, and given the nature of the replicators it was better to err on the safe side. In a sci-fi story (unless it's specified otherwise) I assume that if a robot displays personality and emotion, they're intended to be a sapient, sentient being. A true artificial intelligence, rather than just a machine programmed to mimic human behavior. These stories usually have a trend of "good guys treat AI as human, bad guys treat AI as machines". Either that or the story explicitly raises a theme of "where do we draw the line of humanity?"...and I feel like the implicit answer is usually that we should respect the sentience of self-aware artificial beings, and treat them as we would like to be treated. ...Which is why comments like yours always surprise me! Fallout 4's main storyline has a big focus on the concept of "synths"--near-undetectable artificial humans, some of whom don't even realize that they aren't normal humans. I was shocked when I saw people online saying things like "Well I don't have sympathy for them, they're just robots". Either those people were roleplaying as their in-game character (who can choose to side with anti-synth factions) or they hugely misread the ethical values implied by the story and the characters you interact with throughout the game.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:38
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I just can't see how you can view a thing created by humans as an equal - they would be a marvel of our technology and innovation but they still aren't people.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:41
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I just can't see how you can view a thing created by humans as an equal - they would be a marvel of our technology and innovation but they still aren't people. humans are created by humans though and they're apparently people Basically bro the human brain is just a sack of chemical and electrical signals. Why is that more deserving of personhood than a synthetic thing that is also a mix of chemical and electrical signals? Because someone made it by hand as opposed to making it with their dick?
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Nov 15, 2017 18:49
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Anytime a movie has human-looking talking robots whose lips/vocalizers could possibly ask "am I reaaaaal?", the metaphor is always discrimination against actual humans. That's the point.yeah I eat rear end posted:I just can't see how you can view a thing created by humans as an equal - they would be a marvel of our technology and innovation but they still aren't people. EDIT: Part of the genius of the new Blade Runner film was to show a sliding scale of people -> not people. You had free born humans, flesh and blood Replicants, and lastly holographic phones programmed to love you. All three groups distrust each other. Squidster has a new favorite as of 18:55 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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Nov 15, 2017 18:52
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Man a human being can identify with anything that has a face. People will get themselves killed to save a dog.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:53
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Squidster posted:You were created by humans. They didn't create the process through which I was created, there's a huge difference. Basically what I'm saying is if something like the fallout universe happens, I'll be on the anti-synth side.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:55
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yeah I eat rear end posted:They didn't create the process through which I was created, there's a huge difference.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:57
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yeah I eat rear end posted:They didn't create the process through which I was created, there's a huge difference. So it only counts if it's the result of millions of years of random poo poo happening? Why does that make you more of a person than a synthetic thing that can act and behave exactly the same as you?
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Nov 15, 2017 18:58
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Squidster posted:Are humans born through artificial insemination real people? How about Caesarean section? They're human-designed processes. Those are just procedures using the fundamental mechanism of creating a new human, which they did not create. They are just alternative ways of using that process. When you put a processor into a robot body everything is entirely in the human's control.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:59
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Slime posted:So it only counts if it's the result of millions of years of random poo poo happening? Why does that make you more of a person than a synthetic thing that can act and behave exactly the same as you? If you create life not by using natural processes that already exist but by your own ingenuity, you are inherently superior to it.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:01
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yeah I eat rear end posted:If you create life not by using natural processes that already exist but by your own ingenuity, you are inherently superior to it. try saying that when the killbots are using your skin to decorate their charging docks
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Nov 15, 2017 19:03
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Theoretically you could build a human out of component molecules. Is that the same as a robot?
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Nov 15, 2017 19:05
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yeah I eat rear end posted:If you create life not by using natural processes that already exist but by your own ingenuity, you are inherently superior to it. This was the same argument used in Prometheus,and you see how that worked out - we got two awful loving movies.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:06
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bamhand posted:Theoretically you could build a human out of component molecules. Is that the same as a robot? That would make you a God, so yes, you could treat your creation as an inferior robot that will do your bidding.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:08
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yeah I eat rear end posted:That would make you a God, so yes, you could treat your creation as an inferior robot that will do your bidding. Scientists have grown artificial meat in a petri dish. It's not a stretch to think they could build a person in the coming decades/centuries.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:10
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yeah I eat rear end posted:That would make you a God, so yes, you could treat your creation as an inferior robot that will do your bidding.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:10
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bamhand posted:Scientists have grown artificial meat in a petri dish. It's not a stretch to think they could build a person in the coming decades/centuries. I still think it would be a separate class of being.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:13
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Squidster posted:Hypothetically, if you programmed a AI factory to build paperchlips, which then independently decided to build a flesh and blood person from component particles to make more paperclips, are you inherently superior to the mass-produced robot-built humans? The bigger question is if I'm superior to the paperclips looking at myself i don't think that's true
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Nov 15, 2017 19:13
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yeah I eat rear end posted:If you create life not by using natural processes that already exist but by your own ingenuity, you are inherently superior to it. 
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Nov 15, 2017 19:14
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mega man x was clearly superior to dr light in literally every way, therefore
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Nov 15, 2017 19:36
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Imagined posted:Man a human being can identify with anything that has a face. People will get themselves killed to save a dog. Someone killed John Wick's dog and 83 people died.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:39
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In Castaway Tom Hanks paints a face on a volleyball and talks to it like it's his friend and literally no one found that implausible because people do poo poo like that. Once robots are good enough people will totally empathize with them.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:44
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And gently caress them!
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Nov 15, 2017 19:49
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zoux posted:And gently caress them! You say that like people aren't already trying to gently caress them.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:16
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Slime posted:You say that like people aren't already trying to gently caress them.  
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Nov 15, 2017 20:39
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Nov 15, 2017 20:43
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syscall girl posted:Remember the Aibo? People would buy multiple ones just to kick the poo poo out of them. Some people are hosed in the head just enough to want to hurt things but smart enough to know there are consequences for doing that to humans or animals. Someone post roast beef explaining what happens when someone mistreats his Sino.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:55
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Yo if you watched Wall-E and didn't feel more compassion for the trash robot than the human characters in that film idk what to tell you
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Nov 15, 2017 20:56
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Just because we frame human-like robots as an allegory for race acceptance in our science fictions does not mean actual robots in the future aren't something to be fearful of.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:56
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Depressio111117 posted:Yo if you watched Wall-E and didn't feel more compassion for the trash robot than the human characters in that film idk what to tell you How many humans and sentient aliens die from space explosions in Rogue One? And yet I only had feels for K2SO. Go figure.
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You folks are buying into the robot's propaganda and are gonna regret it. All "hmmm well if I set off this EMP I am basically Hitler" while Killbot XL rampages. Make Humanity Great Again, folks.
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