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Further cementing its place as worst state, NSW Voluntary Dying Bill has been defeated 19-20.
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United Voice are also poo poo aren't they? I was looking at a job as an organiser in training the other day, but I couldn't remember if they were poo poo or not.
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Organiser of MUFF (Melbourne Underground Film Festival), known fascist defender and manbaby Richard Wolstencroft is having the most spectacular meltdown over the Yes result. https://www.facebook.com/ShutterThuggg/posts/10155889368104146 ^ - this captured his original post and he replies in the comments with some seriously A grade batshit alt-right insanity.  Edit: Image screencap of the post that started that thread: 
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:United Voice are also poo poo aren't they? I was looking at a job as an organiser in training the other day, but I couldn't remember if they were poo poo or not. Don't work for them. They'll break you on the wheel and toss you aside. They're not too bad for their members in general, but they employ a churn and burn approach to their own workers. A friend of mine had a UV lead organiser yell at him after working nearly seventy hours for a pittance and tell him if he didn't like it to leave, then justified berating staff with how hard their members have it. This wasn't a one off busy week either. I used to easily pass 60 hours given night visits and weekend offsite meetings but the NUW would eventually tell you to go home for a few days rest. Shift worker organising is terrible for your brain and body. JBP fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Nov 16, 2017 |
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Gorilla Salad posted:gently caress the SDA. Had he considered change from within?
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JBP posted:Don't work for them. They'll break you on the wheel and toss you aside. They're not too bad for their members in general, but they employ a churn and burn approach to their own workers. A friend of mine had a UV lead organiser yell at him after working nearly seventy hours for a pittance and tell him if he didn't like it to leave, then justified berating staff with how hard their members have it. Thanks!
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In related SDA are poo poo news, agreements from Coles are about to be thrown out big time. The agreement has been active since 2011, and when it goes down, Coles be hosed. Apparently they had some people sign stat decs saying it passed the BOOT (this is illegal  )
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Solemn Sloth posted:Had he considered change from within? He's more the 'stand outside with marshmallows waiting for them to all burn' kind of guy.
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JBP posted:Don't work for them. They'll break you on the wheel and toss you aside. They're not too bad for their members in general, but they employ a churn and burn approach to their own workers. A friend of mine had a UV lead organiser yell at him after working nearly seventy hours for a pittance and tell him if he didn't like it to leave, then justified berating staff with how hard their members have it. Pretty ironic that a union would behave that way
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gay picnic defence posted:Pretty ironic that a union would behave that way The way some unions treat their staff is frequently appalling.
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JBP posted:The way some unions treat their staff is frequently appalling. Maybe they should join an union
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gay picnic defence posted:Pretty ironic that a union would behave that way It's basically a combination of ingrained warrior/martyr culture and Stalinism.
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It's really lovely that we don't have a great hospitality union because we are all scattered among small disparate businesses. Also I hear from my girlfriend that the Bunnings EBA is either expired, or will be expiring soon (she left the SDA because they are toxic). I believe the SDA are ramping up efforts to try and be more visible and positive within Bunnings (could just be her store). Will be good to see whether the RAFFWU will challenge the SDA on this. Also can the RAFFWU do posters/flyer drops at universities and poo poo like that? I think that there needs to be more info out there for the younger peeps where it's not "SDA or bust". I think that any positive SDA alternative would be a fantastic way to undermine how the SDA is somehow the default union for retail works.
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Andrew Bolt seems like a really lovely person but I wonder if he would be embarrassed by the people and the content of https://www.facebook.com/groups/theboltreport/ I sometimes look in there to see how they view the world, visiting there I have learned that according to them that Chris Kenny is far left, Agenda 21 is all the rage, Turnbull and the current liberal party are so far left they may as well be Labor, Keneally running is part of a plot of the UN and Saudi Arabia, The yes vote was rigged and Tony Abbott is the only chance Australia has (Until Pauline is PM) and so much more. Free speech is very important to them and talk about how the left want to take it away from them. I had always thought that free speech was a protection against governments that were on the right side of the scale. Perhaps I am confused on the difference of being able to call someone a human being and face no consequences and being able to speak about government wrongdoings without being placed in gaol. They really hate people on welfare, I mean really really really hate them, the hate they have for them is that same they have for Muslim people, in fact I think they might be the same based on what they talk about. They are also very strong supporters of the pension and are angry that Labor policies will take it away from them. If you decide to join there will be three questions they will ask to screen and see if you are lovely enough to join, I didn't answer them and they still added me.
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Squidtits posted:Andrew Bolt seems like a really lovely person but I wonder if he would be embarrassed by the people and the content of https://www.facebook.com/groups/theboltreport/ Andrew Bolt knows exactly who his audience is I can guarantee you that.
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Squidtits posted:Andrew Bolt seems like a really lovely person but I wonder if he would be embarrassed by the people and the content of https://www.facebook.com/groups/theboltreport/ So it's just catallaxyfiles.com on facebook then. They're running donations for Mark Latham because he's getting sued for being an arsehole. That's right, the guy on a pension the size of three times the median wage is getting fools to pay for his expenses.
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JBP posted:It's basically a combination of ingrained warrior/martyr culture and Stalinism.
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Zenithe posted:In related SDA are poo poo news, agreements from Coles are about to be thrown out big time. The agreement has been active since 2011, and when it goes down, Coles be hosed.
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Cory bernardi has tabled a motion calling on the senate to remember the siege of Vienna.
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Cartoon posted:Well now we've gotten the good part out of the way...When I was a union organiser the problem was too much work for too little resourcing. To effect this structurally there would need to be an increase in Union dues. Given union participation rates have been falling for over fifty years this is not an option. Perhaps unions need to get better at directing funds to internal work rather than the ALP. The soldier of the cause factor will always be present as most of the workers(delegates) are volunteers. Staffing resources are an issue and they already increase dues every year. I'm not talking about delegates, I am talking about paid unelected officials and internal structures at some unions that cause an unhealthy and unsustainable environment.
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How far would a party that is running on the platform of calling politicians loving idiots every time they did something loving stupid get? I figure it might be an easy way to get a few senate seats at the very least.
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Solemn Sloth posted:Cory bernardi has tabled a motion calling on the senate to remember the siege of Vienna. Are you serious? Is there a source?
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Recoome posted:Are you serious? Is there a source? https://twitter.com/auconservatives/status/930247016822620160 His brain has been fried, it’s fantastic
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Mr Chips posted:In related Coles are poo poo news, the CEO of Wesfarmers was complaining yesterday that Coles needed deregulated shopping hours in WA so they could compete on an "even playing field" and create more jobs. (There are maybe 8-9 physical supermarkets in the whole state that are open more hours per week than the big two, if we count the Spudsheds.) Not only this, but Coles and Woolworths stores are totally dead after 7pm and only run maybe 2 checkouts after that time. Coles even close down the Self Service section because then they have to put someone on to watch it. So they have 2 service staff in the store and a few people stocking shelves. Opening longer hours isn't going to create a single job - they'll just give those 2 people an extra hour or two a day. JBP posted:Staffing resources are an issue and they already increase dues every year. I'm not talking about delegates, I am talking about paid unelected officials and internal structures at some unions that cause an unhealthy and unsustainable environment. Membership density is the only thing that's going to improve workloads in most unions. We don't donate a whole lot of money to the ALP, but during bargaining rounds we run our DIOs and division secretaries ragged. The problem is if they don't put in those 80 hour weeks, they could find themselves either up on charges for breaching some heinous fair work act regulation; dragged across hot coals by the national exec for loving up a bargaining round; or worse, failing their members which will ultimately result in lower density, smaller budgets, and affect the viability of the union in this state. It's worse being a national union in WA, because everything costs more, and travel is a loving killer.
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Recoome posted:Are you serious? Is there a source? He's calling it a victory for liberal democracy over Islam, even though Austria was part of an empire at the time.
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Solemn Sloth posted:Cory bernardi has tabled a motion calling on the senate to remember the siege of Vienna. Which one?
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United Voice (in NSW at least) can't even be compared to the incompetent SDA and is one of the better unions in general. Whoever was forced to work 70 hours a week should have called him out on the poo poo, I know it wouldn't stand.
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Don Dongington posted:Membership density is the only thing that's going to improve workloads in most unions. We don't donate a whole lot of money to the ALP, but during bargaining rounds we run our DIOs and division secretaries ragged. The problem is if they don't put in those 80 hour weeks, they could find themselves either up on charges for breaching some heinous fair work act regulation; dragged across hot coals by the national exec for loving up a bargaining round; or worse, failing their members which will ultimately result in lower density, smaller budgets, and affect the viability of the union in this state. Yeah I've been doing this poo poo for ten years. The problem with this is my team used to bring in thousands of cards across a year and the total Vic density would still fall. WA I did well, but I was just reclaiming SDA warehouses for the NUW thanks to some stupid and ancient arrangement that had them caretake WA since the NUW couldn't resource it at the time. This involved me doing truly stupid and potentially dangerous poo poo like driving home from Bairnsdale at 1am to make a meeting at 10am the following day or working 4am meetings through to 11pm meetings just to recruit. Then I'd be doing my own industrial stuff at the office (simply because I can do it myself and it saves an industrial resource, other organisers would be doing mapping and stuff at the same time). I'm not suggesting that this is necessarily bad (I did it gleefully in the main) and my post about Stalinism is a bit of a joke about the "elected" structures of some unions. I quit my old job despite enjoying it. I had simply burned out and couldn't account for the toll my organising job had on my personal life and frankly on my health. My partner is still with my old union so I still get to see the 24/7 phone calls, have her coming and going all night to attend meetings and generally being completely hosed on a Friday evening. It's a real motherfucker of a job and that is ok, I signed the blood pacts and enjoyed the culture of personal sacrifice. It's more that UV (where this started) take an actively terrible approach to employees and use the Michael Crosby organising approach without criticism, which is horrible for a worker to endure. I will also say without mentioning a union by name (it is multiple unions) that very few people have had their union jobs terminated in accordance with the Fair Work Act. JBP fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Nov 17, 2017 |
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found in hansard: the turk lusts for vienna
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Herald Scum Jewish councillor shaken after 30 pieces of silver left on desk during public meeting A TASTELESS publicity stunt aimed at discrediting a Jewish councillor has backfired, as a stoush over Port Phillip’s mayoral election turned nasty. Cr Dick Gross was visibly shaken after someone from the gallery, understood to be a member of the Greens, left 30 pieces of silver on his desk during Wednesday night’s council meeting. It came after posts on Greens’ Facebook pages claimed Labor and Liberal-affiliated councillors had teamed up to block Cr Katherine Copsey’s bid for the mayoral position. The 30 silver coins represents Judas’ betrayal of Jesus which ultimately led to Christ’s death. And the “pernicious and malicious ploy” has been slammed by Australia’s leading anti-defamation group. Dvir Abramovich, chairman of the Caulfield-based Anti-Defamation Commission, told the Leader the gesture was a “foundation stone of anti-Semitism”. “This age-old blood-libel, which has a dark and violent history, has now chillingly resurfaced in the chambers of Port Phillip Council,” he said. “(Judas) has come to represent the supposed deviousness of the money-grabbing Jew and the Nazis exploited this satanic stereotype in their propaganda, resulting in the extermination of millions. “Now this grotesque lie has been used in an ugly attempt to smear a Jewish councillor as treacherous, as someone who will set out his peer to the highest bidder for his ill-gotten needs.” Dr Abramovich called for the Greens councillors and the Mayor to “forcefully condemn” the hurtful stunt. Cr Gross said he did not want to comment publicly, and referred the Leader to Mayor Bernadene Voss. Cr Voss said it was “unacceptable” behaviour. “As Mayor and chair of our council meetings, I condemn this type of childish and disrespectful behaviour towards me or any of my fellow councillors,” she said.
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Royal Commission recommends Don Dale Youth Detention Centre to be closed down http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-...c&sf173471444=1
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If that was a member of the Greens they need to be expelled e: in regards to the 30 pieces of silver
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The answers about cultural marxism were valuable. Amazingly, it's an even dumber complaint than i thought.
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Whitlam posted:Herald Scum This is pretty much why the Jewish community in Melbourne really dislike the Greens, despite there often being a lot of overlap in beliefs. There is always this spectre of antisemitism which is associated with the Melb Greens and it is always exploited in every election, and thats because you have shitlers like this ruining it for everyone
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I am always loving mad when it comes to some left-wing elements and anti-semitism. You can be against Israel's actions and poo poo but please do not advocate them being drowned in the sea or some poo poo on the basis that they are Jewish. It is completely loving unhelpful and I am looking forward to the day when we can purge basically every antisemitic left-winger ever. It always splits the cause and they should just loving take it up with the neo-nazis and poo poo as they have so much in common
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JBP posted:What is the ongoing undercurrent of antisemitism in the greens? Basically FREE PALESTINE (which is actually good) and it's all about the illegal Israeli settlements and violence against Palestinians. I can be against Israel (my partner is Jewish) and for Palestine but often it goes way into the territory of "the dang jews" which is super problematic as it is exactly the same thing we attack ultranationalists/neo nazis on. I am not super okay with throwing my lot in with the SAlties because of their borderline jewish conspiracy fetish which is weird and awkward e: Like my partners parents were assaulted about 4 weeks ago because they test drove a car that had some Hewbrew script on it. poo poo's hosed
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Recoome posted:Basically FREE PALESTINE (which is actually good) and it's all about the illegal Israeli settlements and violence against Palestinians. I can be against Israel (my partner is Jewish) and for Palestine but often it goes way into the territory of "the dang jews" which is super problematic as it is exactly the same thing we attack ultranationalists/neo nazis on. It doesn't help that certain right-wingers in the Greens are unironically Parliamentary Friends of Israel
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