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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Aggro posted:

Also how the gently caress is Peru 10th in the world

They win football matches.

Most people who complain about rankings just want the big 10 nations from when they were a kid to stay top of the league forever.

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Azerban
Oct 28, 2003



wooger posted:

Look at the 2002 world cup (especially hosed up as Japan AND Korea both got to seed themselves as hosts for some reason).

in 2026, each of Canada, USA, and Mexico will be seeded and it'll be really good

belgend
Mar 6, 2008

me when The Club do another win

Aggro posted:

Agreed op

Also how the gently caress is Peru 10th in the world

The rankings are weighed heavily in favor for UEFA and CONMEBOL matches of all kinds (see also: Belgium in 5th)

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer

belgend posted:

The rankings are weighed heavily in favor for UEFA and CONMEBOL matches of all kinds (see also: Belgium in 5th)

Would the thread prefer the rankings to be in favor of CONCA-lmao-CAF?

elbkaida
Jan 13, 2008
Look!
Looking at the draw pots there won't be a group of death this time. Allez groups of poo poo!

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

BRASIL HEXA
2026 tá logo aí
the real question is which group is going to have the most riots associated with it

it's definitely russia - england - someone - someone, but I don't know which non-UEFA seeds in pots 3 and 4 are known for rowdiness

russia - someone - someone - serbia might also be tasty

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Eau de MacGowan posted:

the real question is which group is going to have the most riots associated with it

it's definitely russia - england - someone - someone, but I don't know which non-UEFA seeds in pots 3 and 4 are known for rowdiness

russia - someone - someone - serbia might also be tasty

Russia-England-Iran-Saudi Arabia would be the best group

Aggro
Apr 24, 2003

STRONG as an OX and TWICE as SMART

Byolante posted:

Russia-England-Iran-Saudi Arabia would be the best group

I didn’t know how much I wanted this group until right now

Gold Sexy Body
Nov 17, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
Cancel International football forever IMO.

Never play an international game ever again outside of the World Cup.

Randomly draw teams until you have 32.

I can't take this anymore.

Brony Car
May 22, 2014

by Cyrano4747

Gold Sexy Body posted:

Cancel International football forever IMO.

Never play an international game ever again outside of the World Cup.

Randomly draw teams until you have 32.

I can't take this anymore.

One enormous knockout tournament with every FIFA member nation. Single match eliminations all the way. Everybody in the world gets a bracket to fill out for gambling purposes.

Gold Sexy Body
Nov 17, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!

Brony Car posted:

One enormous knockout tournament with every FIFA member nation. Single match eliminations all the way. Everybody in the world gets a bracket to fill out for gambling purposes.

Fine. I'll take it. Just please. Stop cancelling the cool and good football to make us watch 0-0 draws. Please. We're dying.

Aggro
Apr 24, 2003

STRONG as an OX and TWICE as SMART

Brony Car posted:

One enormous knockout tournament with every FIFA member nation. Single match eliminations all the way. Everybody in the world gets a bracket to fill out for gambling purposes.

All matches have home and away legs. The tournament takes 6 years and the next tournament starts before the first finishes. In the 2036 World Cup, Germany suffers a stunning loss to Uzbekistan just days before winning the 2032 World Cup against Trinidad and Tobago.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

sassassin posted:

They win football matches.

Most people who complain about rankings just want the big 10 nations from when they were a kid to stay top of the league forever.

Most people who complain about rankings know that 8/10 of the big nations from when they were a kid are pretty much the same 10 nations who would be top of the league, if the league was based on any logic at all. All the top teams dick about in friendlies, and there's no reason to pay any attention to them.

Seriously:
Argentina
Brazil
England - The most arguable, but I live in a fantasy land.
Germany
Italy
France
Spain
Portugal

+ Holland/A Nordic Country/Croatia
+ Chile/Uruguay/Colombia/Other South American

An African Country is most likely to break this pattern.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

wooger posted:

Most people who complain about rankings know that 8/10 of the big nations from when they were a kid are pretty much the same 10 nations who would be top of the league, if the league was based on any logic at all. All the top teams dick about in friendlies, and there's no reason to pay any attention to them.

Seriously:
Argentina
Brazil
England - The most arguable, but I live in a fantasy land.
Germany
Italy
France
Spain
Portugal

+ Holland/A Nordic Country/Croatia
+ Chile/Uruguay/Colombia/Other South American

An African Country is most likely to break this pattern.

Have you seen Italy or Holland in the last few years?

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
It's insane to me that Hungary don't have a guaranteed top ten place.

And what happened to Bulgaria? Surely Stoichkov's still dominating.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
You seem salty that we all laughed at Wales being high in the rankings and that they didn't qualify

fat gay nonce
May 13, 2003
actual penis length: |-----------|



Winner, PWM POTM January

wooger posted:

Most people who complain about rankings know that 8/10 of the big nations from when they were a kid are pretty much the same 10 nations who would be top of the league, if the league was based on any logic at all. All the top teams dick about in friendlies, and there's no reason to pay any attention to them.

Seriously:
Argentina
Brazil
England - The most arguable, but I live in a fantasy land.
Germany
Italy
France
Spain
Portugal

+ Holland/A Nordic Country/Croatia
+ Chile/Uruguay/Colombia/Other South American

An African Country is most likely to break this pattern.

If it helps those bastions of quality decisions Fifa have listened to your concerns that a big team might get knocked out in favour of some poo poo who the gently caress are they nation and decided to have 30 groups of 2 with the top 2 going through so that's sorted.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

fat gay nonce posted:

If it helps those bastions of quality decisions Fifa have listened to your concerns that a big team might get knocked out in favour of some poo poo who the gently caress are they nation and decided to have 30 groups of 2 with the top 2 going through so that's sorted.

The usa will still find a way to not qualify

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Jose posted:

You seem salty that we all laughed at Wales being high in the rankings and that they didn't qualify

Did you?

Wales had great results over a 3-4 year stretch and played the system well ahead of two qualifying draws. We beat Belgium like 12 times and got to the Euro semis.

Now that we're poo poo again and can't win games we've dropped back down and will get lower seeding. The system works.

Doctor Malaver
May 23, 2007

Ce qui s'est passé t'a rendu plus fort

sassassin posted:

Have you seen Italy or Holland in the last few years?

Italy did well last year and reached quarter finals (unlike Spain, England) where they lost on penalties from Germany.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Giggsy's going to be the new Wales manager and make this country great again.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


sassassin posted:

Giggsy's going to be the new Wales manager and make this country great again.

Who's going to do all the friendlies he can't be arsed with?

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire

Doctor Malaver posted:

Italy did well last year and reached quarter finals (unlike Spain, England) where they lost on penalties from Germany.

We're real fuckin bad right now though.

Please be nice to St. Gianluigi in your stickers!

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

sebzilla posted:

Who's going to do all the friendlies he can't be arsed with?

We won't play any which is how we jumped up the rankings in the first place.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

sassassin posted:

Have you seen Italy or Holland in the last few years?

Define few, Italy won the World Cup fairly recently. And
the only reason they failed to qualify is that they got put in a qualifier group with Spain, and have a garbage manager. Not as good as usual doesn’t mean they’re not top 10, but they’ve clearly underperformed in the last two world cups.

Holland for sure are going through a bad patch, but have nevertheless done rather well in the last two world cups (semi final and final), and will be back again in the Euros no doubt.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

wooger posted:

Define few, Italy won the World Cup fairly recently

11 years ago. It's a whole new generation of players now. Why should that effect their ranking?

Football changes quickly. The Dutch are testament to that. Their current crop of players is absolute garbage.

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

wooger posted:


Holland for sure are going through a bad patch, but have nevertheless done rather well in the last two world cups (semi final and final), and will be back again in the Euros no doubt.

It's true, op

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire
The World Cup draw is in 10 minutes or so. I don't know if I told everyone but I'm English now, 'mon the lads, it's coming home, god save the queen.

Wazzerphuk
Feb 9, 2001

Hating Chelsea before it was cool
Winner of the PWM POTM for September
Winner of the PWM POTM for January
Co-Winner of the PWM POTM for March
This is going to be one of those 3 hour ones, right?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
iran and saudi arabia being in the same group could be fun

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Gigi Galli posted:

The World Cup draw is in 10 minutes or so. I don't know if I told everyone but I'm English now, 'mon the lads, it's coming home, god save the queen.

I mean New England and England are the same thing so it makes sense.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
the timer keeps going up lol

Wazzerphuk
Feb 9, 2001

Hating Chelsea before it was cool
Winner of the PWM POTM for September
Winner of the PWM POTM for January
Co-Winner of the PWM POTM for March

Jose posted:

iran and saudi arabia being in the same group could be fun

They can't be, can they? They're in the same confederation.

Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi
Mar 26, 2005

this song is corny as gently caress but it's still getting me pumped up for dis fuckin world cup

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Wazzerphuk posted:

They can't be, can they? They're in the same confederation.

Thass haraam bro

Tortilla Maker
Dec 13, 2005
Un Desmadre A Toda Madre
That guy looks English as fuuuuuuccckkk.

Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi
Mar 26, 2005

Nice hair plugs, Cannavaro

MalarkeyToboggan
Jan 4, 2015



Why the hell is Spain in Pot 2?

I get the feeling that the Coca-Cola FIFA World rankings might be bullshit.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




How do balls work

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MalarkeyToboggan
Jan 4, 2015



Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

How do balls work

Watching old people struggle with balls is a time honored tradition of FIFA and UEFA draws.

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