TheKingofSprings posted:

I thought CanPol was full of STEMlords, what's with all these FYGMlords who don't care about students?

DutchDupe posted:

OPSEU wanted to go to arbitration.

Their messaging to all their members was "vote no on the proposal so the colleges back down or the Liberals table back-to-work legislation with arbitration".

They think they can get a better deal out of arbitration.

It's a good political stunt on the NDP's part, since OPSEU officials can keep on putting out media statements about how against the idea of legislating back to work they are, but in reality they anticipated and communicated this to their members as something desirable at this stage in the negotiations.

Reince Penis posted:

Just fyi, there's no need to introduce back to work legislation if both parties want to go arbitration. They can simply agree to see an arbitrator.

Please take your bullshit somewhere else.

Wirth1000 posted:

Apparently OPSEU just demanded $5000 back-to-work bonus payment for all the striking faculty tonight which would have been around $60mil according to the colleges which lead to the impasse tonight.

https://durhamcollege.ca/wp-content/uploads/Press-Release-Bargaining-Update-Nov-16-.pdf

TrueChaos posted:

I support the union in the strike, but if this is true I'm really not impressed. I get that the vote went well, but the optics of this are terrible.

However I think they'll get a lot out of binding arbitration, but that remains to be seen.

DutchDupe posted:

FWIW, OPSEU Pres says this is completely fabricated.

And CEC has shown they are willing to lie and manipulate already.

TheKingofSprings posted:

I thought CanPol was full of STEMlords, what's with all these FYGMlords who don't care about students?

flakeloaf posted:

Uber is a stupid business model to apply to taxi drivers, guess what everyone who can tie his shoes on the first try thinks of turning salaried educator positions into a gig economy?

namaste faggots posted:

My dude have you read anything written by Iszbella kaminksa

eXXon posted:

I have a crazy idea, maybe colleges and universities should negotiate in good faith, fire all of their parasitic middle management senior deputy vice Chancellors of bullshit, and stop treating any employees who aren't on the tenure track like utter poo poo.

DutchDupe posted:

FWIW, OPSEU Pres says this is completely fabricated.

And CEC has shown they are willing to lie and manipulate already.

quote:

“We were right on the cusp of First Nations in my region being able to look after themselves,” said Ross, who ran and won a Liberal seat in the provincial legislature last May to help get the liquefied natural gas (LNG) industry off the ground.

“We were just starting to turn the tide on that opposition to everything. For the first time, since white contact, we were ready to take our place in B.C. and Canada. Instead, B.C. is not going to exist pretty soon in terms of investment. That is how worried I am.”

RBC posted:

i'm very surprised at the back to work legislation because in 2015 the scc ruled that kind of legislation was illegal and it hasn't been used since .... :http://blg.com/en/News-And-Publications/Publication_4023

THC posted:

Falstaff posted:

Who are these "scores of pro-development First Nations groups" that somehow think they won't get screwed out whatever empty promises they're offered related to development projects, unlike just about every other development project in Canadian history?

THC posted:

quote:

In the end, Petronas cancelled the project because of “the extremely challenging environment brought about by the prolonged depressed prices” for LNG.

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Yet the company was just as concerned by protesters camped on Lelu Island, where the project was to be sited, who made it difficult to do preliminary work, as well as ongoing litigation funded by SkeenaWild Conservation Trust.

TheKingofSprings posted:

all these FYGMlords who don't care about students

RBC posted:

i'm very surprised at the back to work legislation because in 2015 the scc ruled that kind of legislation was illegal and it hasn't been used since .... :http://blg.com/en/News-And-Publications/Publication_4023

Jimbozig posted:

The OLP has had some legit good policies. They have also had some enormous turds. But the mix has been overall okay enough that depending on just how bad of a campaign the NDP run next time, I was considering actually voting OLP for the first time in my life. I wasn't decided or anything, but minimum wage increase + pension increase + mincome trial + kiddy pharmacare were enough to make me seriously consider them on the merits.

And now today, I see who really has my back. It's not the OLP.

The union knew that binding arbitration was coming and are okay with it because they believe that the CEC negotiating team is a bunch of turds arguing in bad faith. The forced vote had no chance of ever being accepted (if you've already been offered $100, would you approve a contract giving you $80 instead?), and only served to delay the strike. An arbitrator may actually want the strike to end. But that doesn't mean that we support back to work legislation! We do not support the government trampling on our rights even if we think the outcome might be okay in this case! Solidarity with other unions and working towards a strong labor movement for everyone is important.

namaste faggots posted:

Lol shut up home birther

Jimbozig posted:

But that doesn't mean that we support back to work legislation! We do not support the government trampling on our rights even if we think the outcome might be okay in this case! Solidarity with other unions and working towards a strong labor movement for everyone is important.

namaste faggots posted:

All hail the return of the kwisatz weederach Paul muad'weed

tagesschau posted:

Back-to-work legislation does not trample on rights if it includes a fair alternative method of dispute resolution, and if it does trample on rights, it violates the Charter and OPSEU's lawyers would have a field day.

Besides, what the hell do you think the union gets out of CEC's continued stonewalling and intransigence? A depleted strike fund by the end of the year? (Don Sinclair, if you're reading this, remember to call your doctor if your erection lasts longer than four hours.) How does that help other OPSEU locals who may need those funds in the future?

James Baud posted:

The needs of the many (students) outweigh the needs of the few (you).

James Baud posted:

The needs of the many (students) outweigh the needs of the few (you).

James Baud posted:

The needs of the many (students) outweigh the needs of the few (you).

Furnaceface posted:

Wait, who bought Betsy DeVos a SA account?

Toronto Star posted:

CALGARY—TransCanada Corp. said its Keystone pipeline has leaked an estimated 795,000 litres of oil in Marshall County, S.D. just days before Nebraska is set to decide the fate of its Keystone XL pipeline.

The company said its crews shut down the Keystone pipeline system early this morning between Hardisty, Alta. to Cushing, Okla., and a line to Patoka, Ill. and that the line is expected to remain shut while it responds to the spill.

The leak, which it said happened about 35 kilometres south of its Ludden pump station on a right-of-way, comes as Nebraska Public Service Commission is set to vote on the Keystone XL project on Nov. 20 to clear the last major regulatory hurdle for the $8 billion project.

Opponents of Keystone XL say the pipeline would pass through the Sandhills, an ecologically fragile region of grass-covered sand dunes, and would cross the land of farmers and ranchers who don’t want it.

“Just days before the Nebraska Public Service Commissions decides on whether to approve Keystone XL we get a painful reminder of why no one wants a pipeline over their water supply,” said Greenpeace campaigner Mike Hudema.

The Sierra Club was also quick to condemn the spill, urging the commission not to vote for the project.

“We’ve always said it’s not a question of whether a pipeline will spill, but when, and today TransCanada is making our case for us,” said campaign director Kelly Martin.

The pipeline would transport oilsands oil from Alberta through Montana and South Dakota to Nebraska, where it would connect with existing pipelines that feed Texas Gulf Coast refineries.