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man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


Renal_lightfoot posted:

I enjoyed Mass Effect Andromeda a ton. Not as good as the original 3, but a solid game in it's own right.

I enjoyed it as well and I'm sad that it killed the franchise.

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tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!
Subject Delta's relationship with Eleanor is more interesting than "Would you kindly."

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

man nurse posted:

Dude hell yeah, I'm down with this.

Still my favorite shooter to this day.

That fuckin music cue when you get into the airport terminal was pro tier.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Panzeh posted:

That fuckin music cue when you get into the airport terminal was pro tier.

that's a band called HEALTH, they're ace. I think the airport song is called tears.

Jimmy Noskill
Nov 5, 2010

Fartbox posted:

NOLF is bad so

so who cares???

I am playing NOLF 1 & 2 for the first time right now and I can conclusively say that this opinion is objectively wrong.

vudan
Dec 11, 2010
Bayonetta is bad. I felt embarrassed playing it.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Bayonetta, the action game, is fun. Bayonetta, the aesthetic and character, is supremely questionable.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Bubsy...is good.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
I’d be more embarrassed by Chun Li than by Bayonetta, she went from Kick-Waifu to “please schedule an intervention for steroids” but bad

UVGO: “I feel embarrassed playing X” is the surest indicator you would be jacking off to something.

Bayonetta is all about fighting and if you skip cutscenes (which you probably should if you’ve beaten the game ever, it’s a 10 year old game) then her sexuality and skimpy costume aren’t an issue since she’s just killing poo poo.

LoL at sanctimonious pearl clutching at the idea someone might catch you playing a video game with a sexy charicature in it, as though literally all of Television isn’t just as embarrassing. How people form these opinions about video games but aren’t equally embarrassed by Game of Thrones of True Blood is totally beyond me.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

The Crash Bandicoot section was the best part of Uncharted 4.

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.
Forums Posters "Bust Rodd" chooses the hill of "Sexy MILF Ninja: The Game is not embarrassing" to die on.

quote:

He worked with Shimazaki on the model's makeup, referred to foreign models with similar bodies, and said "I really wanted to get Bayonetta's backside perfect. I guess I am into that sort of thing..."[31][32] The language spoken by the Angels and for all Infernal Summons is Enochian.[33]

To Kamiya, the core theme of the game and its protagonist's attacks is "sexiness".[4][34] To "her femininity and sexuality", the developers made Bayonetta bleed rose petals instead of blood when hit, and used butterfly imagery as part of her moves and outfit.[35][36] Her giant boot, fist, and monster attacks reveal some of her body—her hair is magically formed into clothes but must be temporarily reallocated to forming offensive weapons—and when the player targets an enemy, red lips mark the enemy's chest; this led IGN to call the developing game a mix of "action and a great big helping of fan service".[2]

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

bayonetta is mechanically really good, that is unquestionable

the character bayonetta, very very questionable

Jim Barris
Aug 13, 2009

Jeza posted:

Forums Posters "Bust Rodd" chooses the hill of "Sexy MILF Ninja: The Game is not embarrassing" to die on.
I'm not seeing the problem here. Bayonetta most certainly is titillating and intentionally so but that doesn't mean it's necessarily misogynist. The actual text of the plot as I recall most certainly isn't the only competent characters are women.

Jim Barris
Aug 13, 2009
I for one admire the artists dedication in sculpting the finest of asses.

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

Jim Barris posted:

I'm not seeing the problem here. Bayonetta most certainly is titillating and intentionally so but that doesn't mean it's necessarily misogynist. The actual text of the plot as I recall most certainly isn't the only competent characters are women.

Sexist is debatable and I didn't say it, but embarrassing? Please. It's like the most pandering, teenage premise for a character and game ever made lmao

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Bust Rodd posted:


LoL at sanctimonious pearl clutching at the idea someone might catch you playing a video game with a sexy charicature in it, as though literally all of Television isn’t just as embarrassing. How people form these opinions about video games but aren’t equally embarrassed by Game of Thrones of True Blood is totally beyond me.

No television program has a character moan and do stripper moves while getting progressively more nude as the core of a 12 hour experience. Game Of Thrones looks like budget LOTR with some titties every hour or two. Bayonetta is wearing a fetish costume almost the entire time, and literally winks at the camera as it pauses on her crotch about every 5 minutes.

I like the game, but it's wildly inaccurate to say anything on TV is equal to that game. It just never ramps down the sexuality, while even stuff like American Gods has scenes with people just talking.

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.
I won't rest until we have a videogame where the main character's attacks are powered by male sexiness and they wear assless chaps.

DeadButDelicious
Oct 11, 2012

Leave me to do my dark bidding on the internet!
Darksiders 1 and 2 are much more fun Legend of Zelda games than the actual Legend of Zelda games.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Something can be embarassing without being sexist, and for most people openly airing out what your fetishes are and what you consider sexy is most certainly embarassing


Jeza posted:

I won't rest until we have a videogame where the main character's attacks are powered by male sexiness and they wear assless chaps.

Put this on Switch or phone or linux gaming laptop and you have a sale. My personal fashion statement is 'im gay' and putting this game on loop glued to my shirt would be very useful for furthering that statement.

Fartbox
Apr 27, 2017
What's happening? Dri fu an only two? what is this?
Is this an avatar? I don't know rm dunk

quote:

pandering
So is Duke Nukem :grin:

Jim Barris
Aug 13, 2009

Jeza posted:

Sexist is debatable and I didn't say it, but embarrassing? Please. It's like the most pandering, teenage premise for a character and game ever made lmao
I see your point but I'm just not feeling it. I don't think it's embarrassing. Bayonetta is extremely cool that should be apparent to anybody that is witnessing it unfold.

Jim Barris
Aug 13, 2009

Jeza posted:

I won't rest until we have a videogame where the main character's attacks are powered by male sexiness and they wear assless chaps.
Cho Aniki is kind of like that

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Neurolimal posted:

Something can be embarassing without being sexist, and for most people openly airing out what your fetishes are and what you consider sexy is most certainly embarassing

I don't think I'd call Bayonetta a sexist character - half of the game is about her being a smar, powerful fighter & mother figure - but her portrayal by the game is a pretty good example of 'male gaze' permeating the game.

It's like if Wonder Woman had the same script, but spent a lot of time with the camera peering down her top. She's still a female power symbol (Bayonetta's gun heels, lipstick bullets and weaponised hair are actually pretty clever ideas) but it's betrayed by a lot of stuff in the game.

Shame, because it's fun as hell.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Look dude you are talking to someone whose beaten that game probably 20 or 30 times on 3 platforms, and outside of her fetish-themed execution moves and boss fight finishers she is literally just a woman in a black body suit punching and kicking things in the center of your screen. There huge chunks of the game you could watch and probably only barely be able to tell Bayonetta is a woman and not some black demon thing.

Her sexuality is expressed almost exclusively through cutscenes and Game of Thrones has actual titties and boners instead of cheesecake.

If you were walking in on someone and they had a woman in a bikini on screen vs a naked woman getting hosed while crying on screen (Game of Thrones is a bad show) would you be more suspect of A) or B)?

The answer is C) being embarrassed by the media you consume is dumb and you shouldn’t let the threat of idol shame prevent you from enjoying things.

I’d rather play a game where the women is allowed to have agency and be in control than watch any show where they are just hot and waiting around to gently caress the real main characters.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

i don't get that embarrassed by video games, if somebody saw me playing a weird one i'd shrug and be like "yeah those japanese are pretty wild sometimes, its fun though"

this probably wouldn't work with actual porn games though

Fartbox
Apr 27, 2017
What's happening? Dri fu an only two? what is this?
Is this an avatar? I don't know rm dunk

My goodness

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

I've redesigned Bayonetta to be more appealing to an American audience.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
"These are crazy times my friend" I say as I S-rank Battle Groper 2 on my 3ds at max volume

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




So your point is that Bayonetta is good because all media is bad?

Jim Barris
Aug 13, 2009

well why not posted:

I don't think I'd call Bayonetta a sexist character - half of the game is about her being a smar, powerful fighter & mother figure - but her portrayal by the game is a pretty good example of 'male gaze' permeating the game.

It's like if Wonder Woman had the same script, but spent a lot of time with the camera peering down her top. She's still a female power symbol (Bayonetta's gun heels, lipstick bullets and weaponised hair are actually pretty clever ideas) but it's betrayed by a lot of stuff in the game.

Shame, because it's fun as hell.
Yeah, right. You almost see a breast and there's a lot of butt, what a shame.

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.
I jack off in public because I refuse to be ashamed of my body and needs, but at least I'll never play Bayonetta.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Bayonetta is ok and I'm not angry at its existence or anything (in fact it's less sexist than a lot of games) but the people who get really high strung about any jokes wrt the series are kinda weird

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




It's very funny that I called it 'questionable' and people objected to that as if it's ... not worth debating this god-killing stripper librarian game's design choices?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
My MLP themed porn game is not objectionable, because it was made with the goal of being empowering.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Bust Rodd posted:

Look dude you are talking to someone whose beaten that game probably 20 or 30 times on 3 platforms, and outside of her fetish-themed execution moves and boss fight finishers she is literally just a woman in a black body suit punching and kicking things in the center of your screen. There huge chunks of the game you could watch and probably only barely be able to tell Bayonetta is a woman and not some black demon thing.

Her sexuality is expressed almost exclusively through cutscenes and Game of Thrones has actual titties and boners instead of cheesecake.

outside of all of the fetish related stuff, if you skip all the cutscenes, this definitely isn't wank fodder at all, i definitely know this because i've beaten the game dozens of times and only beaten my meat to it like eight times

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

vudan posted:

Bayonetta is bad. I felt embarrassed playing it.

Bayonetta is really good

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




There's definitely provocative stuff ingame. the pulls levers like she's mounting a pole, there's at least one attack that has a crotch shot (with camera effects) and her clothes literally disintegrate as combos go on.

if you're blind to this stuff I suggest detoxing from anime for a bit

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Jeza posted:

Sexist is debatable and I didn't say it, but embarrassing? Please. It's like the most pandering, teenage premise for a character and game ever made lmao

Theres nothing really wrong with it when you say "Yes, my intention was to make a Sexy Babe"

Like, nobody really cared about 2B or Bayonetta because Hideki Kamiya says "Well, I like glasses so I made sure that every character has glasses and a big butt"

However if you try to say your sexy babe has some sort of artistic merit, thats when you hosed up, like Hideo Kojima saying he made an invisible bikini character for any reason other than he wanted Quiet to be an invisible girl in a bikini

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klapman
Aug 27, 2012

this char is good
Bayonetta isn't even remotely hot even though they try really hard to act like she is. Her legs are weird and I don't like her hair style or her glasses

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