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PantsBandit posted:Don't you also get a new version of the Bowser fight? i unlocked it by getting all the in-kingdom moons The Kins posted:Something appears in Mushroom Kingdom that you can interact with to get a little five second cutscene. Nothing gameplay related. welp guess i'm doing it 
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Mama mia! 
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Nov 17, 2017 23:09
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mandatory lesbian posted:People who say 64 didn't age well are insane, like yeah the graphics aren't the best but the actual gameplay is rock solid (which i just realized is the exact word choice you used to lol, but its the perfect way to describe it) The only thing that sucks about 64 is the camera, it's really really bad.
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Nov 18, 2017 01:02
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s.i.r.e. posted:The only thing that sucks about 64 is the camera, it's really really bad. The Odyssey camera is way more annoying, in my experience. 64 had issues when it wouldn't let me move one direction or another any more, but SMO constantly has me griping about moving a direction I would never want it to go.
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Nov 18, 2017 01:15
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s.i.r.e. posted:The only thing that sucks about 64 is the camera, it's really really bad. Yeah it's pretty rough, especially in more closed levels like Tick Tock Clock. Luckily most of the levels are open enough that you don't have to fiddle with it too much.
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Nov 18, 2017 01:30
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PantsBandit posted:Yeah it's pretty rough, especially in more closed levels like Tick Tock Clock. Luckily most of the levels are open enough that you don't have to fiddle with it too much. I think the only thing that ruined the simplistic and limited camera was the terrible piece of poo poo that is the N64 controller. Some areas the camera is like permanently stuck in a spot and it makes certain jumps require odd angles on the stick. Over all it works well and for Nintendo's first attempt at a 3D platformer they absolutely nailed it; it's astounding that on their first attempt they made the absolute pinnacle of 3D platformer that hasn't been beaten since Odyssey and that took over 20 loving years. I still think Banjo-Kazooie is better, it really refined much of Mario 64's imperfections, while streamlining the experience and adding its own charm but Mario 64 defined the whole god drat genre.
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Nov 18, 2017 01:53
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Beat the Darker Side at last. It ends right about at the peak of its difficulty, which I'm glad of. That section with the fog seems impossible to avoid being hit on.
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Nov 18, 2017 04:46
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By the way I did the jump rope moon today, yaaaay!
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Nov 18, 2017 05:28
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Is there a mindless way to do the volleyball moon? You know the one I'm talking about. Or is the answer just sack up and do it?
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Nov 18, 2017 06:21
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Drewjitsu posted:Is there a mindless way to do the volleyball moon? You know the one I'm talking about. I did what someone suggested in this thread: go into two player mode, park Mario in the corner and just use Cappy. It works WAY better. Volleyball isn't particularly hard, but the first like 20 or 30 serves go REALLY loving slow so if you mess up later on it takes forever to get back to that point, so it becomes so tedious. A problem that I don't feel the jumprope had (but then again I liked the jumprope). Using just cappy is just way easier when it comes to getting to where the ball lands because his momentum isn't the same. Although there's a bit of panic if the ball goes to where Mario is because Cappy will automatically go back onto Mario's head and there's a small delay before you can get off him again
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Nov 18, 2017 06:27
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Speaking of jump-rope and volleyball are those people on the leaderboards with 10k+ scores cheating or did they really do that poo poo for hours and hours? EDIT: I guess if you got the rhythm down you could do jump-rope while watching TV or something but you have to actually pay attention for volleyball.
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Nov 18, 2017 11:07
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Macaluso posted:I did what someone suggested in this thread: go into two player mode, park Mario in the corner and just use Cappy. It works WAY better. you can take mario off the court and it still counts so long as cappy stays.
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Nov 18, 2017 13:11
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MisterBibs posted:The Odyssey camera is way more annoying, in my experience. 64 had issues when it wouldn't let me move one direction or another any more, but SMO constantly has me griping about moving a direction I would never want it to go. Tbh I think Odysseys camera is often pretty terrible and probably the games only major weakness. I don't remember having that problem with any other recent Mario games, but the situational awareness in odyssey can be really bad.
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Nov 18, 2017 21:58
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I have been 100% clearing the levels in order, just got 500 moons. If i go and beat what it unlocked it doesnt add more moons and stuff to the early levels does it? That would be a pain in the rear end My only complaint so far is I really hated the deep woods part of the wooded kingdom because I couldn't see poo poo
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Nov 18, 2017 23:52
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The only thing that adds moons to worlds is the end credits.
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Nov 18, 2017 23:54
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Waffleman_ posted:The only thing that adds moons to worlds is the end credits. Not quite. There's a single set of Moons through several Kingdoms you have to do in order, and one in each Kingdom that can only be obtained through a secret path from another Kingdom.
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Nov 19, 2017 03:04
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I just noticed Madame Broodal(the chain chomp one) has jiggle physics 
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Nov 19, 2017 04:10
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veni veni veni posted:Tbh I think Odysseys camera is often pretty terrible and probably the games only major weakness. I don't remember having that problem with any other recent Mario games, but the situational awareness in odyssey can be really bad. Odyssey has the annoying habit of locking the camera all the drat time, and half the time it does it, it's to hide a moon or something behind a wall. On a lighter note, just managed to one shot the pokey section in Darker Side of the Moon and then finish out the stage. I did die about a dozen times before then though.
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Nov 19, 2017 05:12
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whats the trick of the no hat pow block timer like, city scape thing on the dark side of the moon? i can do the first part by just rolling through it all but on the section with lots of jumps im not even close
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Nov 19, 2017 05:54
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violent sex idiot posted:whats the trick of the no hat pow block timer like, city scape thing on the dark side of the moon? i can do the first part by just rolling through it all but on the section with lots of jumps im not even close
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Nov 19, 2017 05:56
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violent sex idiot posted:whats the trick of the no hat pow block timer like, city scape thing on the dark side of the moon? i can do the first part by just rolling through it all but on the section with lots of jumps im not even close I did it by lining up before the P button and rolling into it, that way I had momentum already when the timer started. From there, every single elevation change needs to be done via jump->dive, always jumping toward the direction of the end goal, and the straight sections need to be done via rolling. It is by far the tightest timed section in the game. You really do have to execute it perfectly. Also, the most important thing you'll want to know is that there is a point during rolling where pressing the jump button will long jump, but as you lose speed during the roll, the jump button will go back to being a regular jump button, especially when you release the trigger. The best advice I can give for this section is to learn exactly what that transition point is for the jump button going back to being a regular jump, and then jump *immediately* after that. You'll need to be able to do this for the beginning of the timer right after the P button, and the slightly longer sections of concrete most of the way up the stairs. A single mistake will cost you the run, so if you mess up early, just run back to the bottom and start over to save yourself having to do the beginning section again. I took at least a dozen or so times before I finally got it. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Nov 19, 2017 |
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Nov 19, 2017 07:40
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Yeah that challenge is just straight up "get good". I don't mean that in a meme way, I mean you just have to keep doing it over and over until you finally do it just right. Getting that bonus moon felt so good
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Nov 19, 2017 07:42
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GreatGreen posted:I did it by lining up before the P button and rolling into it, that way I had momentum already when the timer started. From there, every single elevation change needs to be done via jump->dive, always jumping toward the direction of the end goal, and the straight sections need to be done via rolling. It is by far the tightest timed section in the game. You really do have to execute it perfectly. The best way to do it (at least how I managed it) is to mix long and triple-jumps. You have to make sure to land your jumps on the platforms and not wind up grabbing a ledge though, or your run is done because of how little time you have.
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Nov 19, 2017 07:48
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Post game spoiler question: I just unlocked the Darker Side of the Moon. Should I save that whole course for the last thing I do? Or does it enable another unlock (In the same way that I think that beating the Broodals boss rush enables you to collect moons to go to the darker side of the moon though I suspect I am off base here)
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Nov 19, 2017 08:33
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Unlucky7 posted:Post game spoiler question: I just unlocked the Darker Side of the Moon. Should I save that whole course for the last thing I do? Or does it enable another unlock (In the same way that I think that beating the Broodals boss rush enables you to collect moons to go to the darker side of the moon though I suspect I am off base here) It's just a challenge level, you can do it at any point. There's a multimoon at the end of it, but it doesnt seem to unlock anything else when completed
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Nov 19, 2017 08:37
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Unlucky7 posted:Post game spoiler question: I just unlocked the Darker Side of the Moon. Should I save that whole course for the last thing I do? Or does it enable another unlock (In the same way that I think that beating the Broodals boss rush enables you to collect moons to go to the darker side of the moon though I suspect I am off base here)
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Nov 19, 2017 08:45
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I personally would save it only because it does some cute sentimental stuff at the end where it feels like a perfect final thing
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Nov 19, 2017 08:47
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Whereas I got stuck on the area with the forks, couldn't figure out how to time it properly after like ten tries (possibly from playing handheld) and with no ability to recover from a failed try I decided to abuse the flying frog glitch to skip the entire challenge. I know I cheated myself out of at least two more areas of challenge after the forks but I was just growing more and more frustrated from failing when I had mastered all the other areas with only some effort.
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Nov 19, 2017 22:05
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Isn’t the fork part just: Fling straight forward every time? That was one of the easiest parts if I remember correctly.
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Nov 19, 2017 22:11
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Just realised with the Koopa races that the contestants always finish in the same order (blue = winner, red = second, green = third, purple = last). Subtle but intuitive. I like it.
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Nov 19, 2017 22:55
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Beat the Darker Side at last. It ends right about at the peak of its difficulty, which I'm glad of. That section with the fog seems impossible to avoid being hit on. It finally clicked for me to never ever activate the circular laser things and it became easy. Just brush off the spiky dudes with the cap when you need to, they’re more predictable than they seem. The part with the bird was lame considering it was one try every 10m or so of gameplay.
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Nov 19, 2017 23:25
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It's so easy to cheat at picture match that I think Nintendo did it intentionally.
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Nov 20, 2017 01:04
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RatHat posted:It's so easy to cheat at picture match that I think Nintendo did it intentionally. They did it to separate the honorable from the mere worms.
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Nov 20, 2017 01:19
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Is there a free life-up heart in Mushroom Kingdom anywhere? Doing the boss rematch fights currently and could use them.
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Nov 20, 2017 04:16
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qbert posted:Is there a free life-up heart in Mushroom Kingdom anywhere? Doing the boss rematch fights currently and could use them. The dog can find one, uh, somewhere. Not sure where, but if you find it you can probably find it again and again.
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Nov 20, 2017 04:23
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Raise your hand if you did a bunch of unnecessary jumps/wall jumping to get up to the bridge in the lower level of the Snow Kingdom cause you had no idea there was a pole to climb up there
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Nov 20, 2017 06:23
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Macaluso posted:Raise your hand if you did a bunch of unnecessary jumps/wall jumping to get up to the bridge in the lower level of the Snow Kingdom cause you had no idea there was a pole to climb up there *raises hand* AFAIK it's part of the route for the speedrun, too.
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Nov 20, 2017 06:42
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There's a fast strat to get up there using the snow cone cart's umbrella, which is in the any% speedrun.
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Nov 20, 2017 07:10
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DoctorWhat posted:There's a fast strat to get up there using the snow cone cart's umbrella, which is in the any% speedrun. That's how I did it! I just assumed that's how you were MEANT to get up there cause I just did not see the pole
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Just beat darker side of the moon finally after a million tries. Is there no real ending or credits or anything? I just got the 3 moons and that was it.
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