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Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Baked Alaska's gibbering livestreamed walk after his twitter ban was legitimately scary. Like, literal stream-of-consciousness ranting about communists tearing him away from his 'family', trying to work up USA-USA chants in the chat, the works. All while roaming around parking lots, roadsides and such.

It'd actually be less creepy if he was crying of raging, but there is a weird detached vibe to him that really does make me believe he'd pull out a gun and shoot up people without ever breaking a sweat or having some inner conflict over it.

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Where is this stream? I've only seen pictures.

marathon Stairmaster sesh
Apr 28, 2009

ALL HAIL CEO NUGGET
1988-PRESENT

He streamed it from his youtube channel that got posted in the thread last page.

Highlights:

https://twitter.com/jbillinson/status/930925539367546881

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/930923906181091328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

So a dude got banned from twitter and took to the streets and fast food places, rambling nonesense into a video camera while looking like a homeless man who fell into a trendy sunglasses store?

I don't think I could possibly be That Online.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i dunno who gets off on getting owned more, baked alaska or ian miles cheong.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

OwlFancier posted:

So a dude got banned from twitter and took to the streets and fast food places, rambling nonesense into a video camera while looking like a homeless man who fell into a trendy sunglasses store?

I don't think I could possibly be That Online.

he has pretty serious personality issues if he melted down that hard about getting banned from twitter

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

boner confessor posted:

he has pretty serious personality issues if he melted down that hard about getting banned from twitter

No kidding. I watched about 15 minutes of it while it was happenining, and the hunger for validation of ANY kind was pathetic at first, then just sad. It'd be like me bothering my bus driver about SA forum drama. "They told ME to take it to take it to Thunderdome! You'd upvote my thread, wouldn't you, mr?"

vseslav.botkin
Feb 18, 2007
Professor
Dude was getting donations in chat the whole time; this is great for his brand and even better if Twitter chickens out and lets him back on.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

vseslav.botkin posted:

Dude was getting donations in chat the whole time; this is great for his brand and even better if Twitter chickens out and lets him back on.

it may be great for his brand, but "throws a tantrum about being banned from twitter and hassles people in a parking lot about twitter ethics" is a brand which is not good for his psyche

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
i'll have you know that i am the pre-eminent feces eating critic and reviewer on reddit, sir, so i know a bit what i'm talking about when i say this steak is well. done.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I feel like at some point while you might have a strong brand it will become one that nobody wants to be seen dead associated with.

Like, hitler has a very strong brand nowadays, but even the neo nazis are a little iffy about associating with him. This is the hitler of corncobbing.

Midig
Apr 6, 2016

So how long until Baked Alaska gets issues on youtube and makes a rant about going over to vidme?

Rugoberta Munchu
Jun 5, 2003

Do you want a hupyrolysege slcorpselong?
I love Vic Berger more each day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8FWH747HBs

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



I was into the idea of Destiny before listening to his hour long rant against booby streamers

he states they don't affect him in any way, but he's against them on the moral ground that they're not playing video games

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate

Verisimilidude posted:

I was into the idea of Destiny before listening to his hour long rant against booby streamers

he states they don't affect him in any way, but he's against them on the moral ground that they're not playing video games

on the video game site, where people are supposed to play video games?

i think you've missed several of the points he was trying to make anyway

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
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Lovechop posted:

on the video game site, where people are supposed to play video games?

i think you've missed several of the points he was trying to make anyway

https://blog.twitch.tv/announcing-irl-mobile-broadcasting-and-updated-community-guidelines-6833dcac8012

Twitch's IRL announcement posted:

Twitch has become a social video platform for all kinds of passionate people and communities, both gaming and non-gaming alike.

:thunk:

I get his points, didn't miss any of them actually. I even like that he rails hard against misogynistic weirdos who are trying to turn the issue around, or even side with him (which he then refuses). I can see the distinction between women who use sex to sell their streams versus women who don't use sex to sell their streams, but the issue lies more with the grosso misogynistic sexless culture in Twitch itself, not the people who are making a living off of being attractive.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

What is a booby streamer?

Other than a seabird with a facecam.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



OwlFancier posted:

What is a booby streamer?

Other than a seabird with a facecam.

someone who streams while showing their cleavage or their body in some way, sometimes selling access to their (presumably) explicit snapchat or other explicit sites.

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate

Verisimilidude posted:

https://blog.twitch.tv/announcing-irl-mobile-broadcasting-and-updated-community-guidelines-6833dcac8012


:thunk:

I get his points, didn't miss any of them actually. I even like that he rails hard against misogynistic weirdos who are trying to turn the issue around, or even side with him (which he then refuses). I can see the distinction between women who use sex to sell their streams versus women who don't use sex to sell their streams, but the issue lies more with the grosso misogynistic sexless culture in Twitch itself, not the people who are making a living off of being attractive.

the one girl had a banner on her stream that when you clicked it there was just a giant picture of her naked. i dunno dude, that kinda stuff seems like it should be on a different site to me.

if someone is just being attractive and chilling out that's obviously fine, i don't think anybody minds about that (anyone with a brain anyway)

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
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Lovechop posted:

the one girl had a banner on her stream that when you clicked it there was just a giant picture of her naked. i dunno dude, that kinda stuff seems like it should be on a different site to me.

if someone is just being attractive and chilling out that's obviously fine, i don't think anybody minds about that (anyone with a brain anyway)

On what basis? Morality?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Verisimilidude posted:

someone who streams while showing their cleavage or their body in some way, sometimes selling access to their (presumably) explicit snapchat or other explicit sites.

So it's the stuff they showed before the watershed on the cable porno channels with Lucy and Chloe from Essex reading out texts from tommytanker74 live on the telly while telling you to vote now on your phones for whether they should take their tops off, only for the twitch generation.

Nice to see some things never change.

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


Baked Alaska is looking more and more like the LA beast every time I see him.
How long until hes eating pencils to keep people paying attention to him?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Lovechop posted:

the one girl had a banner on her stream that when you clicked it there was just a giant picture of her naked. i dunno dude, that kinda stuff seems like it should be on a different site to me.

oh weird. got a link?

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Lovechop posted:

the one girl had a banner on her stream that when you clicked it there was just a giant picture of her naked. i dunno dude, that kinda stuff seems like it should be on a different site to me.

if someone is just being attractive and chilling out that's obviously fine, i don't think anybody minds about that (anyone with a brain anyway)

Yeah the deal is that twitch is straight up letting the dumb "IRL" category turn into a camsite and that feels kinda off, considering twitch came from phasing out the camsite-y parts of jtv in the first place. Pretty much every time I clip something, the popular clips or recommended stuff that's ever from IRL is ladies with their tits hangin out, not "Oh there's someone in tight shirt" either, I mean this kinda thing.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
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Verisimilidude posted:

On what basis? Morality?
Probably on the basis that sites offering porn or direct links to porn usually have to have some kind of age verification and a way of ensuring that they're not hawking to minors.

That's a huge issue on other social media sites, not just Twitch, but it doesn't mean that it should just be ignored.

OwlFancier posted:

So it's the stuff they showed before the watershed on the cable porno channels with Lucy and Chloe from Essex reading out texts from tommytanker74 live on the telly while telling you to vote now on your phones for whether they should take their tops off, only for the twitch generation.

Nice to see some things never change.
At least they were on different channels, and usually scrambled in some way. It wasn't like you were watching Grandstand and the presenters would suggest "and if you liked this match, you might also enjoy Big Tits At Work 5."

You'll never keep kids away from porn, even in the days of photocopies in the woods, but this isn't a moral argument about that, it's more that you'll never keep kids from cigarettes and booze either, but we still look down on stores that promote it to them.

e: Also it's nice to have sites that you can browse at work without random unexpected nws stuff. I know that's :ironicat: posting on forums where there's an ever present chance of the goatman, but at least people try to mark poo poo here.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Nov 17, 2017

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
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So that you dishonor him before the judges



Guavanaut posted:

Probably on the basis that sites offering porn or direct links to porn usually have to have some kind of age verification and a way of ensuring that they're not hawking to minors.

So the argument should be for stricter age restrictions and verifications, not against people who are making money doing this. Further, the argument should be more aimed towards video games with explicit sexual/violent content, or with streams who are using explicit language. Someone talking about their day but also wearing a pushup-bra seems like the least of your worries, especially when access to their explicit sexual content is locked behind a paywall.

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate

Verisimilidude posted:

On what basis? Morality?

don't you think it's a bit odd to see that kind of stuff on a site that's primarily kids watching people play minecraft or whatever? if not then that's whatever i guess, i doubt we'll change eachother's opinion.

twitch does have a creative and a music section, so yeah it's not all games, but those sections seem pretty cool. people are making cosplays or playing piano or whatever, that stuff is interesting. there's a community there. i think they originally wanted the IRL section to be stuff like people exploring cities, hanging out, doing fun things. instead there's people selling snapchats where they get naked? it's pretty weird to me, personally. i can only speak for my own opinion that i have here.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

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Lovechop posted:

don't you think it's a bit odd to see that kind of stuff on a site that's primarily kids watching people play minecraft or whatever? if not then that's whatever i guess, i doubt we'll change eachother's opinion.

twitch does have a creative and a music section, so yeah it's not all games, but those sections seem pretty cool. people are making cosplays or playing piano or whatever, that stuff is interesting. there's a community there. i think they originally wanted the IRL section to be stuff like people exploring cities, hanging out, doing fun things. instead there's people selling snapchats where they get naked? it's pretty weird to me, personally. i can only speak for my own opinion that i have here.

I think it's far worse that you have people (Destiny included) calling literal 12 year olds autistic and telling them to go kill themselves. Content that promotes violence seems like a far bigger issue than content that might lead to titillation.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I think there's maybe a bit of a difference between age inappropriate content and functional pay per view porno which kind of veers into more like grooming or some poo poo.

Like if your site is facilitating kids participating in online sex chat that's a bigger problem than just them being able to view titties. Twitch has an interactive element.

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate

Verisimilidude posted:

I think it's far worse that you have people (Destiny included) calling literal 12 year olds autistic and telling them to go kill themselves. Content that promotes violence seems like a far bigger issue than content that might lead to titillation.

ok then let’s deal with that as well. good idea

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
i feel like this is edging into an argument about people being prudes if they think it's sleazy to use halfass camgirls to sell let's play sites

fallenturtle
Feb 28, 2003
paintedblue.net

Verisimilidude posted:

I think it's far worse that you have people (Destiny included) calling literal 12 year olds autistic and telling them to go kill themselves. Content that promotes violence seems like a far bigger issue than content that might lead to titillation.

Hasn't he changes his ways and now speak against that sort of behavior?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Lovechop posted:

don't you think it's a bit odd to see that kind of stuff on a site that's primarily kids watching people play minecraft or whatever?

If it's a site aimed primarily aimed at kids watching Minecraft, are you also against people using Twitch to stream the new Wolfenstein game? After all, violence is proven to be far more harmful to a developing child than a nipple ever could be. Right?

And hell, Minecraft itself can be quite violent. You slaughter tons of animals, and animal cruelty is a sign of psychopathy, after all. So let's chuck out Minecraft too. So what should be on Twitch, the site for kids and kids alone?

Who What Now fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Nov 17, 2017

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
i'm not so concerned about kids seeing tits so much as i am the inherent laziness of just slapping tits on a screen to sell some dumb thing and how that should be ejected from society

twitch needs to meet a higher standard than "come play my lord" lovely chinese knockoff f2p games

Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

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If some ladies wanna get more clicks by wearing low cut tops, more power to 'em, and I'm not gonna shame people for doing camsite poo poo or whatever. Maybe Twitch should moderate people advertising porn on their channels but other than that it seems like a lot of moralizing and "not real gamers" poo poo.

edit: This is with the caveat that I know why people have problems with booth babes and that kind of poo poo of "advertise thing by putting a girl who isn't wearing much on it" which has it's own issues, but I'm just talking about people running their personal channels or whatever using their cleavage which is nobody's business but theirs.

Glagha fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Nov 17, 2017

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Glagha posted:

If some ladies wanna get more clicks by wearing low cut tops, more power to 'em, and I'm not gonna shame people for doing camsite poo poo or whatever. Maybe Twitch should moderate people advertising porn on their channels but other than that it seems like a lot of moralizing and "not real gamers" poo poo.

putting breasts on a screen to paper over some mediocre thing is absolutely real gamer poo poo

that is the problem

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

boner confessor posted:

i'm not so concerned about kids seeing tits so much as i am the inherent laziness of just slapping tits on a screen to sell some dumb thing and how that should be ejected from society

twitch needs to meet a higher standard than "come play my lord" lovely chinese knockoff f2p games

Slapping tits on something is 99% of all advertising that exists, my dude. You're gonna have to chuck out all of society before that goes away. It's not great, but it's not a problem unique to twitch or even one that Twitch suffers from more than anyone else. Focusing on them is asinine.

Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

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boner confessor posted:

putting breasts on a screen to paper over some mediocre thing is absolutely real gamer poo poo

that is the problem

I added an edit to clarify what I meant. I agree with you to a point but there's also just a lot of slutshaming about girls who are running their own streams or whatever and just declaring that "ugh they're not real gamers" or "ugh this isn't good content" and that it's just about tits, even if they are deliberately showing off for the stream for clicks. We can talk all day about personal agency vs. objectification or whatever but I figure if you wanna bring people in by showing off for the stream or whatever, that's up to you.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Guavanaut posted:

You'll never keep kids away from porn, even in the days of photocopies in the woods, but this isn't a moral argument about that, it's more that you'll never keep kids from cigarettes and booze either, but we still look down on stores that promote it to them.

We, um, do keep a lot of kids away from tobacco and alcohol with regulations. Opportunity cost and norm shifting is a thing that exists.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Who What Now posted:

Slapping tits on something is 99% of all advertising that exists, my dude. You're gonna have to chuck out all of society before that goes away. It's not great, but it's not a problem unique to twitch or even one that Twitch suffers from more than anyone else. Focusing on them is asinine.

It's not really asinine if you use the platform and also dislike the already hilariously misogynist trends among people who play videogames.

Having the big videogame site also double as a titty site is not really a situation I think that merits "yes but society itself is bad therefore who cares?" as a defence.

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