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M_Sinistrari posted:I laughed because it's the sort of thing my group of wiseass friends would likely say in a eulogy. It's probably a tossup between this and Turtle ship episode for me.
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Nov 18, 2017 04:27
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monolog in the cell. I can't wait to see what they do with season 2.
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WampaLord posted:She's B'Elanna Torres you nerds. Just security instead of engineering. Except B'Elanna's only character trait was 'is super mad, a lot'. Also, I liked this episode, it was really good.
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Nov 18, 2017 04:41
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nmfree posted:"He was a neat guy! It's not like I'm making that up!" I thought it was especially funny that it was Malloy of all people who was giving good advice on how to write the condolence letter.
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Nov 18, 2017 05:15
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Can we just take a moment to appreciate the fights between Alara and Evil Issac? I was wincing at some of those beats.
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DivisionPost posted:Can we just take a moment to appreciate the fights between Alara and Evil Issac? I was wincing at some of those beats.
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nmfree posted:I get the feeling that they spent a good chunk of their choreography/stunt budget on this episode, because the fight scenes were cool and good. Though when Alara finally got by the fire to pull the debris off Paine, I laughed and said to my friend "what's wrong with you guys, it's just styrofoam!" Like, I know she's super strong and isn't supposed to feel any weight of large debris but it still looks goofy as hell having her throw it aside like that.
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A big part of the problem is that while she can toss the stuff around like it's made of styrofoam, it also lands like it's made of styrofoam. It doesn't make a huge thud or rattle the floor or shake the camera or anything when it lands. A few minutes in After Effects might really help there.
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DaveKap posted:Yep. I looked up the clown just in case he was some special guest star. Turns out he was a stunt actor! There were some real good stunts this episode, even if a couple of them were typical sub-par CG. When Alara threw the doc at the wall I winced for sure. on the other hand, i thought they did a good job conveying a sense of weight to the metal beam she smacked isaac with Sagebrush posted:A big part of the problem is that while she can toss the stuff around like it's made of styrofoam, it also lands like it's made of styrofoam. It doesn't make a huge thud or rattle the floor or shake the camera or anything when it lands. A few minutes in After Effects might really help there. styrofoam rubble is one of those things that's probably mostly a trek reference rather than an actual technical oversight
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This show cashes a lot of checks Star Trek really never could, simply by advantage of being made 20 years later. TNG could always tell you about stuff happening and imply the fight happening off screen or show you the aftermath if a fight sequence, but it couldn't really show it a lot of the time. The action sequences on Orville (and Discovery to be honest) really do the settings a lot more justice.
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Goddamn what a good script. Everyone did a great job with their characters. Brannon Braga directed again and a (female) Family Guy writer did the script. Everything, except for a few green screen shots, was just really well done. MisterBibs posted:I think I said this before, but man, I'm really digging Halston Sage and her ability to actually act. She's mostly just been the Cute Girl in things I've seen that she's been in, but even her body language in this (and other) episodes conveys so much. Alara has been the best character, and this episode really shows off how good a job Sage is doing. The body language she's doing sells every scene she's in. Baronjutter posted:Penny Johnson looked like she was having a blast being evil crazy doctor. The doctor and Isaac got some great screen time. I'm really enjoying Johnson's doctor. Isaac's red eyes was inspired.w Tom Guycot posted:I really really want a malloy, lamarr, and bortus trapped on a malfunctioning holodeck episode now. And call back to the pilot and the problem is caused by Malloy messing with the program; like the bandito student of dance. Then we get an episode of those three dealing with a hilariously messed up holodeck scenario. nmfree posted:The Something Awful Forums › The Finer Arts › The TV IV › The Orville: Regardless, it is crushed. ^^ Needs to happen. mllaneza fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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DivisionPost posted:Can we just take a moment to appreciate the fights between Alara and Evil Issac? I was wincing at some of those beats. Yeah that was one bad rear end fight scene. The Orville keeps getting consistently better. At this point I would call this season 1 better than both Voyager and TNGs season 1, which took a few seasons to get their footing. Kurieg posted:It's also a reference to that one episode of TNG where Crusher gets trapped in a collapsing universe built around her fear of dying alone. There's like, six or seven different Trek episodes they were subtly referencing in this one. I only noticed two on my first watch through, but on my second I noticed this. Alara is clearly channeling Captain Jainway when she throws off her uniform shirt and grabs a phaser rifle:    
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Al Borland Corp. posted:This show cashes a lot of checks Star Trek really never could, simply by advantage of being made 20 years later. TNG could always tell you about stuff happening and imply the fight happening off screen or show you the aftermath if a fight sequence, but it couldn't really show it a lot of the time. The action sequences on Orville (and Discovery to be honest) really do the settings a lot more justice. Right- they had the "Alara and Malloy run away from something' in the preview, but I was not expecting them to actually have a giant CGI spider. It was, frankly, a hoot.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:Right- they had the "Alara and Malloy run away from something' in the preview, but I was not expecting them to actually have a giant CGI spider. It was, frankly, a hoot. It was a legitimately funny episode. From the clown on I️ was laughing or chuckling at the absurdity of each scene. Not to mention all of the Bortus straight man lines.
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It really is incredible how they use Bortus in just the right amount. His schtick would get tiring if overused but they know exactly when to have him be the punchline.
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Mokinokaro posted:It really is incredible how they use Bortus in just the right amount. His schtick would get tiring if overused but they know exactly when to have him be the punchline. I will not fail you
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I noticed that the conference room had some grapes and other appetizers on the side table. HE DID NOT FAIL HIM.
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TraderStav posted:I noticed that the conference room had some grapes and other appetizers on the side table. That's amazing.  This show is pretty much a sitcom about working in an office (with gags about elevator music and conference room food) smooshed together with a straight Trek/scifi show.
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Mokinokaro posted:It really is incredible how they use Bortus in just the right amount. His schtick would get tiring if overused but they know exactly when to have him be the punchline. YOU WILL BE SILENT
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TraderStav posted:I noticed that the conference room had some grapes and other appetizers on the side table. Holy poo poo I missed this that rules. This episode was amazing. Alara continues to be my favorite character and Halston Sage is crushing it.
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Didn't care for the resolution in this episode but everything else was done really well. The best line in the episode was Bortus yelling "Clown??" when they were searching for it.
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Nov 18, 2017 16:35
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Selachian posted:I thought it was especially funny that it was Malloy of all people who was giving good advice on how to write the condolence letter. I like the fact that Malloy and Mercer interact with each other like real friends do. Haven't really seen that since TOS with Kirk, Spock, & McCoy. Further ST shows say members of the crew are friends, but there's always a sense of distance between every one, because of position.
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I just want to know whose fear caused the alligator Bortus had to crush.
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Polaron posted:I just want to know whose fear caused the alligator Bortus had to crush. Regardless, it is crushed.
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Actually, it was the alligator’s fear of being crushed.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Also Isaac's eyes turning red was a great effect. Talking of Red Dwarf references... 
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Phylodox posted:Actually, it was the alligator’s fear of being crushed. It was a bad first day for new Orville crew member Alee Gattor of Crocodylus IV.
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Davros1 posted:I like the fact that Malloy and Mercer interact with each other like real friends do. Haven't really seen that since TOS with Kirk, Spock, & McCoy. Further ST shows say members of the crew are friends, but there's always a sense of distance between every one, because of position. I think that's really only TNG and maybe Enterprise. DS9 had Dax/Sisko and Bashir/O'Brien. I'd even given Voyager some credit for Paris/Kim. The Kirk/Spock/McCoy friendship was really expanded on in the movies. Them interacting on a casual basis felt much more real there then it did in any of the TOS episodes. I think it is a little easier for The Orville to pull off because they can center their dialogue around comedic beats.
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PaybackJack posted:I think that's really only TNG and maybe Enterprise. DS9 had Dax/Sisko and Bashir/O'Brien. I'd even given Voyager some credit for Paris/Kim. People hate on Star Trek V, but the interactions of the characters with each other really make that movie to me.
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Nov 18, 2017 20:52
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In TNG I'll give Geordi and Data, and Picard and Guinan some credit. They both are shown to hang out outside of work.
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Davros1 posted:People hate on Star Trek V, but the interactions of the characters with each other really make that movie to me. What would fans need with character development?
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Covok posted:What would fans need with character development? 
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Al Borland Corp. posted:In TNG I'll give Geordi and Data, and Picard and Guinan some credit. They both are shown to hang out outside of work. But they always still seemed so professional to one another. There was never anyone ever taking the piss out of one another.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:In TNG I'll give Geordi and Data, and Picard and Guinan some credit. They both are shown to hang out outside of work. The staff poker games??
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I'm really enjoying The Orville. Guess I missed TNG a lot. Looking forward to a rewatch of season one the moment it ends. gently caress the grim dark Trek.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:In TNG I'll give Geordi and Data, and Picard and Guinan some credit. They both are shown to hang out outside of work. Picard/Guinan is a friendship but they aren't in superior/subordinate roles. Geordi/Data is a friendship but I think it feels less personal because Data isn't an emotional/social being. McSpanky posted:The staff poker games?? While the characters are shown hanging out in their off hours, it does feel more like passing the time. I think the fact that the 'end' of TNG has all the characters going in different directions and end up out of touch speaks a lot about their friendships. While of course Sisko is living in the wormhole, I got the sense that Bashir and O'Brien probably ended up sending each other constant subspace correspondence. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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